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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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springydaffs · 08/03/2016 19:11

Just happened again, had to cut that post down before it would send.

springydaffs · 08/03/2016 19:10

Right, well sorry about that! My nugget of wisdom was thank goodness it's not him asking for your star sign so he can do a chart! Just let the thing unfold..

Sounds absolutely lovely Somer

springydaffs · 08/03/2016 19:06

Can't seem to post on this thread! Says ' message invalid'. Testing!

Goingtobeawesome · 08/03/2016 17:32

So engrossed in this thread I forgot to put the cheese on the lasagne and then burnt myself when I checked it on.

Hope all goes well [flowersWine.

Somerville · 08/03/2016 17:20

DD2 is 9 and in year 4. I thought she was through the bereavement-dip, that happened after she missed a lot of time from school. But apparently she's scored lowest in the year in a maths test. (It's a high achieving school, so that doesn't necessarily mean she's very far behind where she should be.) I've replied to say that I'm more interested in her raw scores than a comparison with the others, particularly given the circumstances. Awaiting those.

Good news is she's come out fairly happy, despite hearing the result of the test in class. Distracted her now with asking her to pick out an outfit from my wardrobe that will look nice for both work meetings and 'dinner with friends' on Friday. She picked out the dress I wore to the launch last week, and that seemed to have a bloody miraculous effect, so she can remain my stylist! (It was a navy dress that I hadn't worn in ages. I'd been planning on an lbd but she said that I shouldn't wear black or people might think I was feeling sad about Daddy; how insightful is that? I don't think I have anything to worry about with that one, she's stuffed to the gills with compassion and creativity. Ultimately much more important than times tables!)

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GColdtimer · 08/03/2016 15:41

So glad to hear your dating update, that all sounds very promising and exciting.

It's not uncommon for bereaved children to fall behind a bit. Try not to worry too much until you get a bit more information.

I am so glad your friend was happy for you, bittersweet is a term I can relate to and have felt it a lot over the years.

AnotherEmma · 08/03/2016 14:49

How old is DD2?

LotsofDots · 08/03/2016 14:40

Good luck on Friday, what a nice thread to read x

Somerville · 08/03/2016 14:27

Your responses are all so lovely [happy] ... I hope he doesn't turn out to be a dick, and this remains a happy thread. Couldn't cope with any serious drama in my life at this stage tbh, so I think I'll go off him quickly if he's not as lovely and sorted as he seems.

Cabrinha, it's lovely that you're planning on inviting your Fiance's PIL's to the wedding. I'm sure that will mean a lot to them, whether or not they end up attending.

I've had a gutting email from DD2's teacher- 'concerns about her (academic) progress'. Sad Best friend called straight afterwards, so telling her about lovely man a bit derailed by discussing DD2 and me getting het up about this is why kids need 2 parents. Anyway, told her eventually and she burst into tears, then sobbed that this was very bittersweet. Bless. She's an INFJ like the lovely man. He cries easily too, I reckon (judging that from the content of his creative work). Then she asked if she could help with any logistics Smile

I've written the rest of the day off in terms of getting any work done, and am going between reading articles on how to help DD2 and day-to-evening fashion tips. Confused

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LarkDescending · 08/03/2016 14:10

Just read the whole thread and so excited for you OP.

I met my lovely man through a shared activity a year or so after his wife had died. I knew he was special early on, but he was clearly nowhere near ready to think about anything other than friendship (which was fine with me and entirely understandable). We gradually got to know each other as part of our activity group and then, in time, started seeing one another outside the group. We have taken things slowly and gently and it's been great. There are still sad days and bumps in the road, but for the most part he has a rediscovered spring in his step, and a smile on his face, which all around him (including his adult daughter) are delighted to see.

I can't for the life of me see why anyone should judge you for being open to moving forward. I think it's wonderful and hope you have a brilliant time on Friday. Looking forward to updates!

Jenijena · 08/03/2016 14:10

Your post about your chat made me all smiley :) have a lovely time on Friday.

TwoTwentyGowerRoad · 08/03/2016 13:54

Just want to say it's lovely to read a positive thread. Not place marking at all, nooooooooo Grin

gruffaloshmuffalo · 08/03/2016 13:52

OP that's lovely! I hope you have a wonderful time on Friday

tragicomicadherent · 08/03/2016 13:41

Love this thread, thanks for the in depth update OP and please keep us posted!

TheFormidableMrsC · 08/03/2016 13:32

And no, not taking clean knickers, behave!!

Spoilsport Smile

Dozy1970 · 08/03/2016 13:19

Just wanted to say how lovely you sound. Have a wonderful time and enjoyFlowers

AnotherEmma · 08/03/2016 12:19

I think your friend will be as excited as us - hope I'm right!

Somerville · 08/03/2016 12:12

Thanks guys! It's good to have 'someone' to tell. I feel super excited. And no, not taking clean knickers, behave!!

Slightly miffed that my Dsis hasn't phoned for details. Nothing since the waxing link. But we got married when she was 13 so maybe this is weirder for her than for me. Anyway, I've texted my best friend to say I've got some fun but perhaps surprising news, whenever she has time to chat. Deep breath. Hope she's okay with it. Especially as I think I need to hire her nice au pair on Friday evening - my regular sitter can't do it.

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Cabrinha · 08/03/2016 11:41

Loving this!!!!!

AnotherEmma · 08/03/2016 11:25

Thanks for the update, I love that you've given us a blow by blow account - we can all live vicariously! Grin

I want to be childish and sing the "sitting in a tree" song at you!!

I have a VERY good feeling about this. Enjoy your date! Woohoo!

TheFormidableMrsC · 08/03/2016 11:22

Oooh.....even I am getting flutters here!! He sounds lovely, you have nothing to lose at all.

Let his sister do your chart, I believe in all that bollocks

Take some clean knickers

Can't wait for the next update! Smile

Destinysdaughter · 08/03/2016 11:10

Aw that's so lovely! Hope your dinner goes well, you've got to come back and tell us all. So exciting! Smile

Somerville · 08/03/2016 10:56

Awww. I told him I'd be free to talk between 10 and 2, and he called at 10.01. Punctual! (And keen, right?)

Then had minor heart fail when first thing he asked was my star sign. Asked if he knew that's all bollocks. (No offence intended to believers.) He sounded like he was pissing himself laughing, said sorry, it was first thing that had come to mind, because he'd been talking to his sister about me, and she wanted him to find out. I said; talking to your sister about me? He apologised, I said it's okay, flattering, well depending what he'd told her. He said some sweet things that made me Blush and then that he had asked her for advice, after talking to my friend. His sister had said to find out my starsign and then she'd do our chart and let him know what approach would work Confused. She sounds about as helpful as my DSis. I said for him to remind me to tell him my sister's response to hearing something about him, when I know him better. Grin

Laughed at him for getting up at 5 am. Training run ready for a half marathon on Sunday apparently. Told him I do runs that length every month or so, but not official half marathons because I find exercising in front of strangers embarrassing. GOD, can't believe I admitted that, I'm such a tit. Talked about running for a while, which led onto talking about my dog. He claims to like them. Even stinky ones (though I didn't mention her shitting in the house).

Then talked about our project a bit. It came out that he assumed I'd be at a meeting about it on Thursday. Told him I only come into London once a week, generally on a Friday as then my parents can generally pick the DC up after school for me. Had excused myself from that meeting so long ago that I'd forgotten it was even happening. He went a bit quiet and I asked if the absurd limitations of my life were dawning on him. He said not absurd at all, was actually wondering if you're in London this Friday? I am, I said cautiously, though chocka with work meetings until 5. He asked what time I have to be home for the kids, because he'd love to take me out, if my friend is wrong and I'm interested in dating!

I said I'm terrified by the thought of dating but really enjoy his company. I could book the babysitter to take over from my parents, so we could go for a drink after my last meeting Smile. He said could he take me for dinner, somewhere quiet where we can chat properly. I said that would be lovely.

AAAAGGGHHHH!

Then he asked me my birthday and I said I'm not telling him because I'm pretty sure I'm older than him. He said I'm not asking the year, just date. I said ha! You're stealth working out my star sign. He said he had to tell his sister, but was laughing. I said I'd tell him if he knew his MBTI (a personality typing thing - Jungian psychology). Thought I'd have him there and he'd have no clue what I was talking about. He said INFJ. Two of my best friends are INFJ's, I love them! So told him I'm Libra but that it's bollocks. Didn't tell him my MBTI because I'm less feely than him and don't want to scare him off.

Can't remember what else, but we talked for nearly 30 minutes Shock. He asked if he could call again before Friday. I said anytime, then corrected that, and said between 9.30 and 2.30 or after 9pm, as I needed to concentrate on the DC aside from that. He said nice things about my parenting. I told him he has a lovely voice and asked how tall he is (6'2!!).

Now to try and book a 'sitter, and work out what to tell my parents. Gulp. And also going to read your replies above properly. Thanks, all. I'm so glad I emailed him!

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TheFormidableMrsC · 08/03/2016 10:16

Actually, as others are sharing stories, I have a positive one rather than the negative one of my husband leaving for a very recent widow. My Mum died at 60 fucking cancer. My parents had been together for 40 years. To my huge surprise, a few years later my Dad met somebody he wanted to marry...and did. I have to admit to feeling very very conflicted at the time despite being in my 30's and I did struggle a bit to come to terms with it. As it happens, my step-mum is a lovely lovely lady, who has always been hugely respectful of the memory of my Mum and is an amazing wife to my Dad who is a bit bloomin' high maintenance. I have on the odd occasion blurted out "I wish my Mum was still here", particularly when my youngest DC was diagnosed with autism. However, she understood and has always been very kind about how much my Mum is missed by us all, particularly my Dad who still misses her terribly. They have photos of her around the house and she is still very much part of conversation etc. I really really appreciate that and I know my brother does too. It hasn't always been easy, there have been some rocky times, but generally, my Dad finding new love has been very positive Smile.

Cabrinha · 08/03/2016 10:12

Oooooh, an email! Lovely Smile that's really made me smile today (over invested, much?!) Seriously - lovely!

I asked BF (actually fiancé) whether he'd invite PIL to our wedding and he said yes. They're very welcome. Weddings are family occasions and they are his family. Totally understandable if they decline of course. But they are still part of his life, and so is his wife / their daughter.