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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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grobagsforever · 09/03/2016 23:27

Hi Somerville - sorry not read whole thread as it's late and I'm tired...I was widowed in June 2014 at the age of 33, I was pregnant with my second daughter.

My children are now 5 and 20 monthes. I work in a demanding job - and yet, for the right man I have found a way to make it work. He's so respectful of my boundaries and needs, whilst being funny, smart and sexy ;-) He's not threatened by late DH and I know DH would approve. The relationship is very different but so wonderful in its own right. So..GO FOT IT!

DownInFraggleRock · 09/03/2016 22:28

This is such a lovely thread! And just for more encouragement from the other side of things.... My dad died when I was young, my mum remarried when I was 5..... I love that my mum found love again, and she now says that if my second dad (can't call him stepdad) died, she would definitely marry again, having had two happy marriages! So have a lovely time on your not a date, and I'll join the crowds going out to buy a hat! Grin

Horsemad · 09/03/2016 19:43

Oh this thread has made me smile Smile Have a lovely time on Friday OP, we'll all be thinking of you!!

And don't forget to update please! Grin

Goingtobeawesome · 09/03/2016 19:03

Pah! I've burnt myself twice since so can't even remember which part of my hand it was..

Somerville · 09/03/2016 18:50

Cabrinha Grin Step dog - cute!
I thought I liked dogs, until I was responsible for one on my own. I should have done like your DP and given her to extended family; several people offered. And my parents have her a lot of weekends, as she doesn't like being left alone for long. But ostensibly she's Ds's, and they're very attached, though not when it comes to feeding her, training her or picking up her shit; all those pleasures are left for me. I do like running with her. And that she barks when anyone comes up the drive.

And, I love your whirlwind romance. When you know, you know. Or so was my experience with DH (met in March and got engaged in August, and only waited that long so I could meet his family at his DB’s wedding at end of July! Looonng engagement while we finished our degrees and got jobs though.) Glad it’s happened like that for you your DP after your respective earlier traumas. Have fun planning the wedding.

Goingtobeawesome - Hope your hand is okay today? Not sure about love - that's even scarier than date. Definitely some lust going on though, on my side at least. I actually felt flushed whilst typing doggy whilst thinking about Lovely Man. Shock Blush Grin

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Cabrinha · 09/03/2016 18:09

I would say I'm not a doggy person. Smelly mutts, the lot of 'em.

My boyfriend's wife had a dog, but when she became really ill the dog went to her parents. Dog comes back when they go on hols. I met my step dog last week. And then offered to have her for the day - boyfriend was working, she's OK alone, but loves company. Then I popped in to walk her next day for him. And right now, I'm curled up with the smelly lovely thing about to head out in the rain voluntarily with her again.

All I'm saying is... sometimes even non dog lovers come good 🐶Grin

I think it's like kids - you can't help but like them, as an extension of someone you like / love.

He'll like the dog, trust me 😉

Goingtobeawesome · 09/03/2016 18:07

Don't mind about the burnt hand. It's all worth it for a lovely thread all about love.....hopefully.

Somerville · 09/03/2016 17:35

Awww thank you everyone Smile

Of course I will update on Fri. I don't think we'd have got our acts together for aaaages if this pit of hopeless romantics vipers hadn't urged me to email him.

He followed me on twitter this afternoon, which is all work stuff, apart from a pic of my dog from a few weeks ago. He texted to say she is gorgeous. She's really not, so I'm pretending he really means that I'm gorgeous Grin God, I hope he really is a doggy person.

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Potterwolfie · 09/03/2016 16:45

Can't wait for an update on the not-a-date on Friday Grin, wishing you lots of fun! Just as there's no time limit on grief, neither should there be any restrictions on when you're ready to not-date again.

Your DDs comment about the black dress brought tears to my eyes, what a sweet soul she is. Star

IpreferToblerone · 09/03/2016 16:31

Another poster sending good wishes to you Somerville on your not-a-date 💐

Cabrinha · 09/03/2016 16:22

Yeah, um, that'd be Oct 2015 Blush
If it sounds less nuts, we've set a wedding date that's mid 2018 Grin

As a widower from a loving, long and successful marriage - he's every positive about relationships.

I'm the cynical divorcée Wink

It's OK to just go on a not-a-date though Flowers

NisekoWhistler · 09/03/2016 16:13

What a lovely thread. Sending you good luck for Friday. Thanks

Flossiesmummy · 09/03/2016 15:48

He sounds lovely! I'm sure your DH would want you to be happy too.

If something happened to me, I'd want my husband to date again at some point.

Good luck on your not-a-date. Thanks

Somerville · 09/03/2016 15:27

Not-a-date in October and engaged now?October '15 or October'14? Fast work either way, Cab, impressive!

Though, all these marriage anecdotes are not helping me manage my expectations for my not-a-date Grin

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GColdtimer · 09/03/2016 15:00

You know we are all going to be waiting for an update on Friday don't you. Grin

AnotherEmma · 09/03/2016 14:40

😍❤️

Cabrinha · 09/03/2016 14:22

Hmmmmm.
I had a first not-a-date with my widower last October.
We're engaged now.
Just sayin' Grin
I'm a big fan of the not-a-date Wink

Enjoy!

Somerville · 09/03/2016 14:13

He just phoned again. Smile Lovely chat. We agreed that the word date is scary and Friday is not-a-date in the same way that George R R Martin has a not-a-blog. (It is a blog!) And he asked me to recommend him something to read, since I'm already reading something he recommended. Lovely (and clever) man, setting up easy conversation for Friday.
And I'm officially using the word lovely too often. But he's lovely!

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Somerville · 09/03/2016 10:31

That's a nice way of thinking about it, Helena, thanks.

And, re Friday; I hope I will!

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HelenaDove · 09/03/2016 01:59

A while ago Good Housekeeping interviewed four widows about how they were coping One of them had remarried.....one was engaged.

One of them said "it has taught me that its possible for sadness and happiness to exist together in the heart at the same time."

Somerville your DD sounds great. Enjoy yourself on Friday Thanks

Somerville · 08/03/2016 20:53

DSis turned up for a chat Smile. All good.

Emma, I wrote the who gives a stuff about maths thing with a wry smile, as DH was a mathematician. He'd be freaking about this. Freaking. It's funny that the thought of this can now make me smile.

I haven't thought about when to tell the DC anything. (I have a DS (11) as well as the DD's.) You're right that it feels way too early. Lovely guy might not stand up to closer inspection. Or I might not! But I did make a deal with DD1 that she'd tell me about anyone she liked and I'd do the same. So if (huge if) it turns into something then I'd need to tell her sharpish. Would discuss it with her grief counsellor first. At the moment, aside from this maths crapola, they're all doing pretty good. So I don't want to bring in another variable.

Going - Erm, sorry?! I fear this thread will be very dull until Friday, so everyone's dinners and hands should be safe. I'm just flailing about what to wear and trying to catch up with prep for the meetings on Friday. But I promise I will update if any news - vague hope of another phone call. Not brave enough to call him, though I should have good excuse for a project-related email tomorrow. (My life is so exotic, I could be a rockstar. Counting down the hours til I can send a work email Hmm. )

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GColdtimer · 08/03/2016 20:53

Your dd sounds lovely. And my once "gifted" dd is now only "average" under the new crazy curriculum so you are right to look at the actual tests.

Goingtobeawesome · 08/03/2016 19:55

The lasagne did have cheese. I chucked it on and burnt myself in the process!!

BeachysFlipFlops · 08/03/2016 19:48

Love the fact that your Friday date is responsible for Going's lasagna being cheese less Grin

This is a lovely thread, good luck.

AnotherEmma · 08/03/2016 19:23

Your DD sounds amazing! I know it's important for her to do well in school but I think I would find it hard to give a fuck stuff about her maths test in the circumstances. Especially given that she is only 9 FFS! (If they were mock GCSEs it would be different!) I totally agree with you that compassion and creativity are much more important than maths Wink

It's probably a bit early for this, given that you haven't even been on the date yet, but have you thought about when and how you're going to tell the girls that you're dating? I'm guessing you'll keep it quiet to begin with, but I'd hate you to worry about telling them or feel it's something you have to hide for too long.