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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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Somerville · 11/03/2016 10:04

Peace and love everyone. Flowers

Wouldn't have re-joined mn if I wasn't pretty sure I'd be able to remember that it ultimately it's just words on a screen. And I was expecting a flaming when I wrote my post.

Best friend has just texted to say she'll take over babysitting duties from my parents, rather then sending her AP round, so that I don't need to worry about stuff at home. V nice of her - im sure it's just a coincidence that she'll be perfectly placed to pump me for all the details, right Wink Grin

Train just getting in. Will update tonight.

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diggerdigsdogs · 11/03/2016 07:50

What a lovely thread :)

Good luck Somerville.

PestilentialCat · 11/03/2016 07:17

Armarmai "hang on to your inheritance" - what's that supposed to mean? She's going on a date, not throwing herself into an unsuitable second marriage and even if she were WTF has it to do with you?

GColdtimer · 11/03/2016 06:58

There is always one who likes to try and spoil a lovely, supportive thread Hmm

Good luck today, talked to my wedding friend last night and she said good luck too!!

Goingtobeawesome · 11/03/2016 06:02

Good luck today

I've reported the horrible comment.

MaryRobinson · 11/03/2016 04:46

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notonyurjellybellynelly · 11/03/2016 03:58

That phone call he made a few pages ago Smile

Does anyone else wish they'd been on the receiving end of it Smile Smile

DancingDinosaur · 11/03/2016 01:23

Are you widowed amarmai? Or just doling out advice on what you think widows should do? Hmm

TheFormidableMrsC · 11/03/2016 01:09

amarmai, that's helpful Hmm. OP is very gently stepping out on one date which has taken a lot of courage for her to do. What an odd comment.

girlinacoma...date is tomorrow Friday evening. We'll all be here waiting with baited fingertips...Smile

girlinacoma · 11/03/2016 00:18

Any updates OP? Hope it went well x

amarmai · 11/03/2016 00:15

have an affair and get him out of your head. Keep him away from your kids and hang on to your inheritance.

Somerville · 10/03/2016 23:19

Sorry to post and run earlier. DS upset this evening after stupid thing said by rugby coach about every child's dad needing to sign up to come to training either Thursday evenings or Sundays because he needs more help. He needs a brain and some sensitivity, more like.

Dungandbother - I hope he notices you soon. Maybe he already has but isn't good at showing it?

Cabrinha - Ooh I got all excited reading that. Maybe he does have mentionitis. Or maybe he's just never heard of fedex. Grin

Right, I need beauty sleep.

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TheFormidableMrsC · 10/03/2016 22:50

Just stopped by to wish you loads of luck for your not-a-date tomorrow Somerville...I remain very excited for you Smile Flowers

Cabrinha · 10/03/2016 20:22

Oooooooh, Somerville you know what that mentioning you formally is all about, don't you?

He's got MENTIONITIS!!!! That's good 😀

PamDooveOrangeJoof · 10/03/2016 18:45

Just read this whole lovely thread. Keeping everything crossed that you have a wonderful time tomorrow night op!

Dungandbother · 10/03/2016 18:23

I put the thread in watching early on. But now I am joining because I would really like to know how you get on.

And also because I'm keen on a widow but it's way way too early. And he doesn't know I exist! Barely. Anyway.

Yay to Friday.

Avebury · 10/03/2016 18:14

Possibly one of my favourite ever threads on MN - so full of lovely wise ladies and so much hope and optimism. Wishing you a wonderful Friday OP.

kpreenien · 10/03/2016 18:05

Good luck on Friday, I've just spent a good 15 minutes reading your thread and it really made me smile. You deserve to go out and have fun, spend some time with someone new that gives you that feeling.
Looking forward to the update from Friday. X

Somerville · 10/03/2016 17:44

x-post with lots of you. Thank you for all the good wishes! I'm counting down the hours until I spend enough time with him to work out if Lovely man truly is lovely.

Rupert - MFPI made me laugh. MBTI Not that I'm not at all feely, but he's an intuitive feeler, which really mean all the feels. You know that kind of person whose eyes and whole face is very expressive of their emotions? And who are not embarrassed by expressing them? He told me completely unashamedly on the phone yesterday that he doesn't just cry when he's sad, but also when he's scared. Awww Grin Whereas its hard to tell what I'm feeling from my expression. Some would call it resting bitch face; I call it enigmatic Wink

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AnotherEmma · 10/03/2016 17:43

I think you should tell her the truth. You don't need to go into loads of detail if you don't feel comfortable doing that. But if she is a friend (and was friends with your DH) I think she might feel a bit silly/hurt if you hid it from her. You've got nothing to be embarrassed about!

Oh and he sounds even more lovely every day, btw Grin

Somerville · 10/03/2016 17:31

Oh, and I have a rather-dull-but-exciting-to-me update on today's contact with Lovely Man Smile

He sent me an email update on the meeting, and added he was so glad I emailed him on Monday, because he'd have been flummoxed when I wasn't there, about what to do next.

And then my friend (who told him I'm not dating) phoned to say "WTF - you're working with Lovely Man on another project too?"
Apparently at the meeting someone realised they needed to get my eyes on something urgently. Lovely man said "I'll give it to Ms Ville tomorrow, I'm seeing her about something else at x (the name of the company of my last meeting)" - we've agreed to meet there afterwards as he'll be nearby anyway and apparently the restaurant is hard to find).
I think he handled that very nicely - didn't let on that we're seeing each other for a not-a-date, while not lying. Though I think referring to me so formally was him being a bit too clever for his own good - my friend was confused by it. But I like it that he didn't go shooting his mouth off.

Thankfully I was driving when she called and connection was rubbish, so she didn't grill me. Need to think what to tell her. Probably just the truth, or it'll get more awkward later on. If Lovely Man and I have a wonderful time and are going out again I would tell her anyway. And if we decide we're better as friends it won't especially matter if she knows we tried a not-a-date. And if he breaks my heart, well then I won't want to work with him on any future projects, so would want her to have a heads up. But would rather tell her face to face, which can't happen until next week.
God, dilemmas like this are when I really miss having DH as a sounding board. /he stopped me overthinking too much. Though, of course I wouldn't have this dilemma if he were still here. Confused

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PestilentialCat · 10/03/2016 17:29

He sounds lovely (you said it!) - hope tomorrow goes well :-)

Lovemylittlebears · 10/03/2016 17:20

I hope tomo goes really well for you :) you sound just my cup of tea. Loads of fun and deserve a nice night out. Fingers crossed for you xxx

RupertPupkin · 10/03/2016 17:17

OP you sound lovely and your posts are really heartfelt. I think you ARE feely, sod the MFPI or whatever it is! I hope tomorrow goes well.

Somerville · 10/03/2016 17:02

Grobags - I'm so sorry for your loss. Can't imagine any harder time than whilst pg. Flowers Your DP sounds extraordinary and your story is so uplifting. Thank you.

DowninFraggle - Love it that you call him second dad. Especially as he's been part of your life for probably almost as long as you remember.

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