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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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Jenijena · 11/03/2016 16:58

Nearly time for not-a-date... Hope it goes well and you have fun :)

WhoremoaneeGrainger · 11/03/2016 16:49

Have a wonderful time on your not-date. Will keep checking back because i am a nosy bag!!!

wordassociationfootball · 11/03/2016 16:40

Somerville, I think you shoul consider some deep breathing. Inhale so your stomach fills with air, hold for a few seconds and exhale slowly. Also think about keeping your throat open as you inhale.

BernieBear · 11/03/2016 16:39

Have a great time - very much looking forward to the update. Just really enjoy yourself x

Slowtrain2dawn · 11/03/2016 16:36

They are probably wondering who the sophisticated enigmatic woman in the corner of the lobby is Grin

Somerville · 11/03/2016 16:15

Yeah, more mascara too risky with no makeup remover with me.

I've found a quiet corner in this lobby, feeling mildly distressed at all the young 'uns headed out on their Friday nights. People-watch twenty somethings for long and you feel really old, ugh.

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wordassociationfootball · 11/03/2016 16:13

God this is exciting. Agree, no extra mascara. That would be the point I stabbed myself in the eye with the wand.

AnotherEmma · 11/03/2016 16:05

Loving the live updates Grin I vote no extra mascara but either way he will probably be gazing lovingly into your eyes Grin

CaptainHammer · 11/03/2016 16:03

Just read this for the first time, he sounds lovely! Hope you have a great not-a-date Smile

Somerville · 11/03/2016 15:57

I'd worked out the timings perfectly, to have just enough time to FT with the DC and tart myself up refresh myself in loo before Lovely Man arrives. But meeting finished friggin' way too early. Bugger.

Cabrinha, I loooove your not-a-date. Did you know each other very well as friends already? Also, did it go straight to actual dates after that, or did you continue with not-a-dating?

And don't worry about the hat and step dog stuff, anyone. You're all being so lovely kind and I'm taking it in the affectionately joking manner in which it's been offered, and don't feel pressured. I might if my RL friends had those kind of expectations, which is why I've hardly told anyone, and mostly taken out my mentionitis (yes, I diagnosed myself!) on you lot.

Should I give into temptation and add yet another layer of mascara? Don't want to look like I'm trying too hard. Or shall I entertain myself by staring at Lovely Man's Twitter profile pic like I did on the train , risking dire embarrassment if he arrives early? God, I'm so lame.

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Teladi · 11/03/2016 15:47

Just read through the whole thread for the first time and wanted to wish you luck! Have a great time tonight whatever happens.

Cabrinha · 11/03/2016 15:33

AnotherEmma yeah - my bad Grin

NameAgeLocation · 11/03/2016 15:27

Have a lovely evening OP. Have just read through the thread and I'm so excited for you. I hope you both have a really nice time 😍

wannaBe · 11/03/2016 15:04

I read this thread last night and I think I recognise your username from somewhere (I've been on MN for years). But having read this thread I just wanted to placemark wish you luck for tonight. :-)

Slowtrain2dawn · 11/03/2016 15:01

Have a wonderful not-a-date.
You both sound lovely ( not overused at all) and really well matched. He knows his MBTI, Impressive!

AnotherEmma · 11/03/2016 15:00

Oops missed a word.
"in the same breath post"

AnotherEmma · 11/03/2016 14:59

Cabrinha you've just said in the same breath that you don't want to put too much pressure on and you hope he likes his future step dog Grin LOL

Cabrinha · 11/03/2016 14:49

Oh not-a-dates last ages, because you can't end them. Seriously. It's the not-a-date drawback.

My lovely widower and I sat on my sofa watching a not-a-date DVD.
I couldn't ask him to stay - because it wasn't a date!
I couldn't ask him to leave - because I didn't want him to.

I sat with his arm round me, my head on his shoulder, pretending to be asleep as it was the only way I could keep him there without asking him to stay. Because it was not-a-date.

We drifted in and out of sleep until 08:00 when I did a big fake "OMG!"
(I've since admitted to the fake sleep!)

Sorry to be all about me on the tenuous connection that he was a widower... Grin

But at some point in the early hours, he kissed my "sleeping" head, lightly. I really thought he might say "I love you" (he didn't). But I felt loved.

This all only happened because it was not-a-date so we couldn't just shag Grin. I'm really pleased it happened that way, it was an amazing sleepless night.

Not-a-dates are the best.

And you know, I'm worried a bit that we're putting pressure on this / you, with out hat talk. But we're just rooting for you, and getting to this point is positive wherever it goes Flowers

Hope he likes his future step dog Wink I'm off to see mine tonight!

AnotherEmma · 11/03/2016 14:38

You're welcome, glad you're meeting her for lunch Smile

And yes he is totally lovely! Grin

Deep breaths. You've met him before and it went brilliantly. All will be fine. More than fine!

Somerville · 11/03/2016 14:31

You are all lovely, too Grin

Anotheremma thanks for what you said yesterday about telling friend/colleague. It made me think, and I've now arranged to have lunch with her next week to tell her what's going on. Hopefully by then I'll have some idea of what's going on...

Lovely man text asking which train home I'm booked on. Told him I can get on any. Him: what's the latest one you could get? I told him last one goes at 11ish, by we're meeting at 5 and afaik, first not-a-dates don't last 6 hours! Him: I hate to break it to you Somer, but I've checked Debretts and they definitely do. It's one of the most important not-a-date conventions.
Isn't he lovely? Smile
God I need to figure out his flaws and concentrate really, really hard on them.

And also, I'm very very nervous and finding it hard to concentrate in these bloody boring meetings.

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doceodocere · 11/03/2016 13:09

Ooh, it's Friday! have a lovely time, Somerville

BeautyQueenFromMars · 11/03/2016 12:14

I've just read this whole thread and I'm all emotional now! In a good way, obviously.

Somerville, I hope you have a really lovely non-date this evening. You sound lovely, he sounds lovely, it's all lovely Grin.

AnotherEmma · 11/03/2016 12:01

Have a lovely time! Can't wait to hear how it went Smile

notonyurjellybellynelly · 11/03/2016 11:58

Here's to a really nice evening Wine

TheFormidableMrsC · 11/03/2016 11:28

Good luck Somerville...have a truly wonderful time Smile

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