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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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TheFormidableMrsC · 16/03/2016 00:00
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AnotherEmma · 15/03/2016 23:32

Aw, that sounds like it went well Smile
How did the children conversation go down? Did he say he wants some of his own?

Somerville · 15/03/2016 23:31

You lot are sweet Smile. And no, Digger (if second base means what I think it does - boob grope?) But the only lovelier kiss than a quick drunken Lovely kiss is proper slow Lovely kissing.You know when it makes you actually feel a bit high? That.

We met at a gastro pub half way, to have a bit longer together Blush And he brought up the kid conversation. It went about the best I had hoped for. Also, he's already heard from our friend/colleague that I'm three and a half years older than him. Shock

Then we had fun and flirted and ate nice food and flirted and gossiped about work stuff and flirted and he walked me over to my filthy car and was a bit Shock at the state of it and it was funny rather than embarrassing Smile. And then we chatted on hands free the whole way home.

I'm going to tell Dd1 that I'm thinking about dating in general (not specifically about Lovely yet, unless she takes it very well) but GOD I'm knackered now. Lone-parenting and working FT and fitting in dating too isn't for the faint hearted, is it? Confused

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SwearySwearyQuiteContrary · 15/03/2016 23:31

Loving the hope and positivity shining through this thread. Good luck!

diggerdigsdogs · 15/03/2016 23:03

Hope he got to second base the evening has gone well. Grin

Buttercup443 · 15/03/2016 22:31

This is the most loveliest thread I've read in ages. Somer,I hope you have had a lovely evening!! Flowers Wine

GColdtimer · 15/03/2016 22:23

Hope you had fun :)

WordGetsAround · 15/03/2016 21:34

I hope you're having a wonderful time! It might be worth just living in the moment for a while and not overthinking too much - enjoy!!

Jenijena · 15/03/2016 19:58

Hope he's just as charming sober. Though will miss the slightly tipsy updates :)

Goingtobeawesome · 15/03/2016 18:44

I hope you have a lovely time, Somerville.

Somerville · 15/03/2016 18:00

I do, twofalls. And I've just realise that I'm a lot less nervous this time. Smile
Which is just as well, since I'll have to do this one sans vin, as we're both driving.
But still bit nervous because I'm going to ask him about our respective ages, and kids. Also, I'd like to kiss him sober.

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GColdtimer · 15/03/2016 16:36

Do you have another not-a-date today Somer?

Dungandbother · 14/03/2016 22:57

Thank you for the time you've given me Somer xx

Somerville · 14/03/2016 22:40

Dungandbother - A friend whose DH walked out on her around the time that mine got ill has gone through a similar bewildering journey of grief as me. And she has had nothing like the support from her family and her colleagues.

Be kind to yourself as much as you can Flowers

In terms of the widower... I guess, trust your instincts. I'm also tempted to advise that you ask the mutual friend if he's ready to date and see if it gets back to him, because then at least you'd know

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Dungandbother · 14/03/2016 20:49

Thank you somer


I really appreciate your reply. It's helpful!


I'm not a widower, but a terribly hurt and broken hearted almost divorcee. Of a very long and trusting relationship. I've been working through the many shapes of grief too.


I don't look at men and fancy them. I haven't fancied anyone in 3 years since my ex tore my heart out. (Well one but not seriously and he wasn't available).


But I saw a man and I really fancy him. But he is a widower. I can't see how I could ever approach him. And I don't cross paths with him. There's one mutual friend but it still doesn't seem right.

I'm happy to see what happens. For a while!!





Somerville · 14/03/2016 18:08

Everyone interesting comes with complications! - I might take this as my mantra, grobags Smile I am filled with admiration for you successfully doing OLD. OLD fills me with horror, but then again it wasn't even a thing when I was last single Confused

I've thought about it some more Dungandbother and my theory is that if I'd met lovely man before we were working together and I knew there was this (indefinable but vivid) connection I reckon I would have seen he was attractive-to-me (I have vaguely noticed that about actors on the Good Wife a few men since losing DH) but in a purely observational way, rather than feeling the attraction. Or maybe I only think he's so attractive because I like him so much as a person.

digger I don't feel any pressure as I know MN is either LTB or 'let me buy a hat' Grin But I do feel a bit guilty about the place marking when I don't have an update. Here have some of these instead Wine Cake Chocolate

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grobagsforever · 14/03/2016 17:02

Oh Somerville so happy for you! 16 months is definitely plenty of time - I started dating at 13 months and met current lovely boyfriend 1 month later. I'll add to your response to dugandbear if I may. I knew very early on that wanted to meet someone one day although the actual thought of it made me feel sick. Around 11 months in I realised I was attracted to a friend and whilst that didn't work out it was a good sign for me that I felt that way and hence after I'd got the one year anniversary thing done I started OLD.

Also whoever it was up thread who said the logistics and complications weeds ppl not worth bothering with is right. Boyfriend and I spend a fair amount of time and money so we can see each for a couple of times a week - we both have children and demanding jobs so we have to make the effort to fit each other in. Everyone interesting comes with complications! :-)

Somerville · 14/03/2016 16:24

Dungandbother
A bit of the first and the third, I guess? Even when right in the middle of everything that happened, I knew I didn't want to be alone forever, and deep down I assumed I'd meet someone else some day, though I didn't spend any time consciously thinking about it. I remember feeling a bit offended when other people brought it up, like it was being unfaithful to DH's memory, but whilst still somehow also feeling that it would happen one day. Confused When I consciously thought about having someone else in my life, though, was very much only when I got the slap around the head you mention, and realised I fancied the lovely man I was talking to. That feeling really shocked me. And I can't be certain, but I don't think I'd have had that reaction to him if we hadn't already connected in our emails.

If I'd been attracted to someone earlier on..? I know if have judged myself and felt it was too soon at some level because I also feel that now . But I suspect this is more because it's the first man I've liked since DH, rather than the time that's passed, IYSWIM?

I don't think I'm being very helpful. I'm sorry. Feel free to PM me.

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Dungandbother · 14/03/2016 14:38

Somer

Personal question and I know that it's an individual thing.

When you became a widow, did you always think I will find someone else? Or was that a gradual maybe one day feeling that grew as your grief withdrew ?
Or was it I saw this lovely man and Whoa I fancy him? Like a slap across the head?

If you had 'noticed' someone else early in (less than 6 months) would
you have felt OK about that? Or judged yourself harshly?

I'm attempting reverse psychology for myself. Sorry to be so personal !

diggerdigsdogs · 14/03/2016 13:02

Blush also place marking.

I do hope OP that everyone on this thread, myself included, isn't putting any pressure on some kind of magic happy ever after. I mean that nicely (and can't figure out a way for that not to sound like a mean bubble burst).

I think it's great that he's so keen to come visit twice!

Goingtobeawesome · 14/03/2016 12:14

Grin.

Somerville · 14/03/2016 12:03

Goingtobe - Grin I'm sorry not really

wordassoc - You might have a mind like DSis (that's not entirely a compliment BTW Grin) - her code for teasing asking me about him when the DC are in the house is SK (smitten kitten).

SnowFairy - Grin Grin Grin

WellWho - ooooh the lovely little brackets are back

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WellWhoKnowsTrolls · 13/03/2016 23:08
TheSnowFairy · 13/03/2016 20:39

LTB

(Loving That Bloke Grin)

wordassociationfootball · 13/03/2016 19:58

He seems utterly genuine and utterly smitten Grin