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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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AnotherEmma · 22/03/2016 18:38

Ooh lunch at your house... Nothing too messy or smelly that will get in the way of snogging Wink (Sorry that word is so teenage but I can't resist!)

Do you know what kind of food he likes? Maybe it's come up in conversation on one of your dates? If you have an idea of what he might like, go for that. If not, just do one of your tried and tested dishes - something you know you can do well and people like eating. It will be less pressure on you, then. And I'm sure he will like it if he doesn't he won't care anyway, he's too smitten.

BitOutOfPractice · 22/03/2016 18:11

Aww I've just read this and I seem to have something in my eye! How lovely!

Somerville · 22/03/2016 17:45

Oh GOD that is such a MNet reply! Grin Grin Grin

Yes!! Just FOOD!!

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wideboy26 · 22/03/2016 17:42

Are we talking ...erm...food here, Somer?

Somerville · 22/03/2016 17:31

It's nice that you all appreciate how happy these little things make me, rather than laughing at me like DSis does. Hmm Grin She's still referring to him as the smitten kitten and has been warned that she doesn't get to meet him until she stops that. I already embarrass myself around him more than enough; her assistance would probably send him fleeing.

Lovely man is coming for lunch tomorrow, eek. Last time we'll see each other before my holiday, so I wouldn't mind leaving a lasting impression (without looking like I'm trying too hard, of course Grin)... so any ideas of what to feed him are welcome...

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Flossiesmummy · 22/03/2016 14:36

Lovely stuff! He left his phone on in case you called!

Cabrinha · 22/03/2016 02:54

That's a good high point Grin

wideboy26 · 21/03/2016 11:32

With good reason, from what we have learnt about Somer in this thread!

TheFormidableMrsC · 21/03/2016 11:07

Ha ha, it's the little things Somer...he is clearly smitten...Smile

Somerville · 21/03/2016 10:42

Thanks, all Smile

I'm annoyed at myself for getting rid of all my London work days for the month surrounding Easter. I was so smug when I managed it. Grrrr.

But plenty of texting; so he hasn't forgotten about me yet. And when I called him on Saturday night he was at dinner with friends but answered his phone... when he's out with me he turns his phone off, so that made me Smile Grin. And then someone called out who was he talking to and he said 'Somer' and I could hear them all go 'Oh Somer,' so he must have told them about me. Smile

And thaaaat was the high point of my weekend. Hmm Confused

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NisekoWhistler · 20/03/2016 22:22

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I love this thread. So much admiration for strength shown by people on here.
The post date flowers are just wonderful, I'm so excited for you.

GreenRug · 20/03/2016 07:31

cabrinha, what an absolutely lovely gesture to have offered your dh to add his first wedding dates to his wedding band.
OP, this is still the loveliest thread ever Flowers

babyinthacorner · 19/03/2016 08:13

" I actually feel lonelier when I'm on my own than I did before I knew he existed, which doesn't make much sens"

This made MY heart skip a beat, let alone yours!
And FLOWERS?! swoon!

Somerville · 18/03/2016 20:25

The Flowers were a very useful illustration to DD1 of why not to go for bad boys. It's only nice ones who send post-first date flowers. Smile

Replied x2, Goingtobeawesome. UnMumsnetty ((hugs)).

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LotsofDots · 18/03/2016 19:37

Flowers. Wonderful. Flowers Grin

Goingtobeawesome · 18/03/2016 17:25

And it makes total sense. You know now what is potentially available for you and you'd like some. Send some texts Smile.

Goingtobeawesome · 18/03/2016 17:23

Somerville - I've sent you a PM.

Somerville · 18/03/2016 14:38

Shock Sorry to hear that torthecatlady. Must have given you all a lot to process along with losing your mum.
You're right, the few people I've told in RL haven't thought it is too soon.

Emma, I hope not, he seems sincere, but time will tell I guess.

Anyway, won't see him much over next few weeks Sad as we both have holidays planned. I actually feel lonelier when I'm on my own than I did before I knew he existed, which doesn't make much sense. Confused

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TheFormidableMrsC · 18/03/2016 14:33

Bloody hell torthecatlady, I have been in your shoes and would also have been livid. That makes even my ex-h's OW seem "respectful" of her husband's memory Hmm. You're right that everybody deserves a life and indeed happiness, but I would have thought you were storing yourself up for all sorts of future problems if you don't give yourself time to grieve and adjust or indeed give your children time to do the same...

The way Somer has handled this, her feelings and those of her children has been very moving Smile

AnotherEmma · 18/03/2016 14:26

6 weeks!!! Shock Confused
I would have been livid too.
Glad you are able to feel differently about it now.
Flowers

torthecatlady · 18/03/2016 14:22

Personally I think 16months after your loss (so sorry Sad) is acceptable. It's not like you're planning a wedding and children etc. It's just seeing what's there and getting back into the dating world.
My dad had been with my mum since they were 16 and had been marries 39 years, like you forever and when she died from cancer he was already dating within 6 weeks after her death.
I was livid to say the least. But now it's been 18 months and I get that he needs to live his life and find happiness.
Good luck! Thanks

AnotherEmma · 18/03/2016 14:10

Awwww. He is almost too good to be true! Smile

diggerdigsdogs · 18/03/2016 13:58
Envy

That's a very good morning after the first date.

Somerville · 18/03/2016 12:58

wordassoc - Yes, it sounds like they are, and I like that. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a supportive family but coming from one myself I know how much stability it gives. Though it does make me feel guilty for not telling my parents yet. But I'm going away with them over Easter and I'm planning on talking to my younger DC, and parents, about all this then.

I asked him if he'd like his first wedding date engraved inside our band, so it marked both of his weddings - Cabrinha, I wish everyone who has lost a spouse could meet someone as thoughtful as you.

I'm not sure that I'll ever want to take off the rings DH gave me. But moving them to my right hand, so I don't look married, feels like something I might want to do soon. If things don't work out with this... relationship (?) then I don't want future nice men/my friends thinking I'm not open to anything. And if things do work out... I'm not going there. Not even in my head. Not yet.

Apparently the difference between a not-a-date and a date = Flowers
I got beautiful bright ones delivered this morning. Smile

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Cabrinha · 18/03/2016 10:43

Lovely "lovely" updates!

Somerville, my fiancé moved his rings to his other hand after a while, and then some time later decided to take them off - I think when he started dating, but may have been a little earlier.

We were chatting about it and I asked if he felt he ought to remove them for dating - because if he wanted to wear them again, that was fine by me. (he didn't)

So... you know... take it at your own pace - you don't 'have' to do anything.

I asked him if he'd like his first wedding date engraved inside our band, so it marked both of his weddings - but he doesn't mind not wearing them now so he said no.