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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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AnotherEmma · 23/03/2016 14:28

Lickable jaw!!!! Hahahaha! Grin

Of course he likes you a lot! He is a smitten kitten Grin

Somerville · 23/03/2016 14:24

Awww thanks Dowser and blindsider.

We had such a nice time Smile. Chatting while I finished cooking, then eating. Lots of flirting. Short walk by the river with my dog. We've talked about doing lunch most weeks, once the hols are over. Saves on needing a babysitter, and might mean we can manage to see each other 3 times a weeks, once the DC are back at school.

And he either really likes my cooking or is determined to make me think he does - either is fine by me Grin Very little left for the DC later, which won't go down well as this is their favourite. I shall blame the dog.

Mellifera still no fatal flaw though he did turn up all stubbly. I have nothing against facial hair but I don't think it particularly suits Lovely so I teased him about not bothering to shave. Him, 'you don't like it?' Me, panicking but not wanting to lie: 'It's just that it hides your lickable jaw.'
FFS Lickable Jaw. I am a twat. He looked at me like this Hmm but then burst out laughing and said he'd miss me when I'm on holiday.
Which at least made me relax and think you lot are right, and he does like me a lot. Smile

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Dowser · 23/03/2016 13:49

This is such a lovely thread.

You're the same age as my daughter and my son is the same age as lovely man, whose fiancée is 11 years older than him. So you have nothing to worry about.

Lovely man is taking the same route to your heart as my lovely man did. Not too fast, not too slow. Having excellent communication with me etc

We started off seeing each other at weekends as we lived a 40 minute drive apart. Then he dropped a class he had on a Wednesday to see me during the week as It was the only night I had free which I thought was wonderful of him and was done with no instigation from me.

He too had no children but I was a bit tied with my baby grandson who lived with me ( and his dad). He was tied by his dogs.

At 55 (him) and 56 ( me) I wasn't going to have any more lol. So not a problem.

Can I just add ....enjoy this lovely courtship phase. It's so special. I'm pleased we had so much of it . 3.5 years before he moved in and it was so lovely. I miss it sometimes because it's an extra special treat.

What we have now is lovely too. Both of us are very happy...but our courtship was fabulous. He used to come and get me on a Friday and whiskme up to his place for the weekend so I didn't have to drive back alone on sunday nights and that was lovely. He was tied by the dog and my son and grandson lived with me.

I'm loving reading your dates . It's bringing it all back . All those warm slushy feelings.

My man was / still is a lovely dresser. Nice shirt and trousers, good shoes, neat hair cut.....earring! I loved the way he made me feel special.

We helped to heal one another.

Mellifera · 23/03/2016 12:55

I just read the whole thread and it is completely uplifting reading such thoughtful, kind and funny posts.
Somer I hope he stays lovely and you don't detect a fatal flaw. Wherever this is taking you, he's seems to be good for you and that's wonderful.

TheFormidableMrsC · 23/03/2016 11:41

Have loads of fun!!! Am way too excited here Grin

Blindsider you nailed it Smile

blindsider · 23/03/2016 10:55

Trust me as a chap, I have been there and done it- it is has all the hallmarks of a totally lovestruck man. Delighted for you both.

Being in a happy loving realtionship is the best thing in the world, EVERYTHING else can be coped with, if you have that behind you.

Somerville · 23/03/2016 10:51

Gotta rush he's arriving soon but thanks everyone Smile

Oh and blindsider
I am really happy for you, He has got it baaaaaaad
This made me smile. And also I hope you're right because I have it bad

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Somerville · 23/03/2016 10:47

TheFormidableMrsC - I will make one now. Alas the whole tub of Haagen Dazs I ate yesterday might not be dealt with so easily

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Somerville · 23/03/2016 10:46

Marriednotdead
No shame in lurking, but thank for saying hi Smile and so happy to hear that you got out of a terrible relationship.
I hope you have a wonderful year ahead, too.

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blindsider · 23/03/2016 10:10

And then someone called out who was he talking to and he said 'Somer' and I could hear them all go 'Oh Somer,' so he must have told them about me.

I am really happy for you,

He has got it baaaaaaad Grin

AnotherEmma · 23/03/2016 10:08

Enjoy your lunch today! Smile Wine

WhoaCadburys · 23/03/2016 10:06

[marking place] GrinWine

blindsider · 23/03/2016 10:04

I asked him if he'd like his first wedding date engraved inside our band, so it marked both of his weddings - but he doesn't mind not wearing them now so he said no.

Goodness me, what a stunningly compassionate and thoughtful offer, made me tear up a little Blush

What a heart warming thread this is, makes a change from the standard fare of EA DV and cheating . I hope it works out for you Somer.

pinkbraces · 23/03/2016 09:24

I've just read the entire thread and its made me Grin

Enjoy your lunch with Lovely, I think it will be the first of many. You deserve all the happiness you can grab.

TheFormidableMrsC · 23/03/2016 09:19

Somer, drink hot water with lemon slices in it all day. Deals with bloat very well Smile

Marriednotdead Flowers and a very happy future for you!

marriednotdead · 23/03/2016 08:44

Sorry Somer, I've been lurking since the beginning but am starting to feel weird about it so a belated hello from me Blush

So loving reading this thread and watching you making steps into a happy place once more. You truly deserve the lovely man he's shaping up to be and I sigh happily every time I read your updates Smile

I'm in a very different position to you but there are some parallels. This time last year I was an emotional wreck, on the verge of asking for a divorce from a miserable and controlling man.
I'm now free- decree absolute due any day. No Mr Happy Ever After on the horizon for now but thoroughly enjoying FWB status with someone very special from my teens- over 30 years ago!

It's amazing what difference a year can make. I look forward to the next one for both of us!

Thethingswedoforlove · 23/03/2016 07:54

Very pleased you found something you know he is looking forward to eating. And you have paella in reserve now to prepare next time!! Enjoy enjoy enjoy

Somerville · 23/03/2016 00:31
Grin

I really could have done without feeling achey and bloated right now (slight concern about getting my skinny jeans done up) but it's not the worst possible AF timing. At least I can't do anything I'll later regret...

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TheFormidableMrsC · 23/03/2016 00:26

"Period pants" bastards Smile

Somerville · 23/03/2016 00:02

Thethingswedoforlove - I was going to make seafood paella. Boring but easy and tasty. But then Lovely man phoned tonight and hinted about that delicious smelling thing I'd left out for my DC when he came to my house last week... Which was corn bread topped chille con carne with guacamole. Not so quick and easy. And a bit... stodgy perhaps for lunch? So I should have said no but I didn't and I've just cooked all evening, feeling really happy that I could do something nice for him Smile
God, I'm so lame.

WellWhoKnew Grin

Dowser - thank you.
And I loved "they met through their mothers' care home" this tickled me pink - really made me smile Smile

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Dowser · 22/03/2016 23:11

Havent had time to rtft as I'm shattered ( just flown back from Tenerife today) but I will as it sounds lovely ( read first and last page)

Wanted to say that my DH started dating me about 8 months after his 30 year marriage ended when his wife died.

Also, my cousin lost her husband of 19 years last year and started dating 10 weeks later. She never went looking for anyone, they met through their mothers ' care home.

She is so happy. She had never been abroad in her life ( 55) . She came to my wedding in Tenerife in september then two days after her return he whisked her to Italy and they spent a week in January in Malta. They have been all over. London for weekends as well as the other part of the uk. New year they came to visit us.

Life is for living Somer. Grab by it the horns and shake it till its teeth rattle.

AnotherEmma · 22/03/2016 22:20
Grin
WellWhoKnew · 22/03/2016 22:15

Oyster and Asparagus Salad per chance? A banana for dessert?

Thethingswedoforlove · 22/03/2016 20:17

So what are you making somer?

Somerville · 22/03/2016 19:40

Ha! No, nothing too messy or smelly indeed. And snogging is a great word. One of my favourites lately Grin

Having scoured recipe books for an hour a bit I've decided on something I've made dozens of times before. Grin You're right, tried and tested is the way forward, I don't want any pressure.

< Off to lay out my clothes for tomorrow including period pants >

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