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What sexist behaviour would be the most shocking if reversed?

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GrumpyOldNag · 06/06/2014 17:05

I was thinking feminist thoughts to myself (as you do Grin ), and I was thinking about how this belief that sexism doesn't exist anymore creates a huge backlash against anyone who speaks out against it, which in turn makes people who do in fact believe in equal rights for men and women try to distance themselves from feminism because it's perceived as crazy and unreasonable. The problem is that a lot of it is so ingrained in our culture and society that it is completely normalised, and the majority of people don't even notice it anymore.

So what would be the most obvious, outrageous sexist behaviour, if we swapped the genders? Would it be men being followed, harassed and intimidated in the street, or on the music channel men gyrating and grinding dressed increasingly revealing clothing while women are all fully clothed? Men dancing in the windows of the red light district, or the overwhelming majority of politicians and CEOs being female?

What in your opinion would bring about the most uproar if one day sexism suddenly switched genders?

Sorry if any part of this doesn't make sense, I had a beautifully written OP all typed out and then my iPad lost it all for no apparent reason... Angry

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 20/06/2014 18:25

89% of serious crimes would be perpetrated by women, but when men tried to raise this they would be called sexist, shouted down and patronisingly told that not ALL women commit crimes so gender is irrelevant.

BeCool · 20/06/2014 14:30

SAHD vs WOOTHD debates will rage endlessly in most media

squizita · 20/06/2014 14:13

Not sure it's the most shocking but i will add men getting questions about will they work after they become fathers? Do they feel happy leaving their baby in nursery? Will theybe working full time? Wow. When will they prepare all the meals for the week?
...and having comments like "fathers who work are not real fathers" pop up eventually on any internet forum about this.
...and having to have some kind of very polarised verbal 'war' between fathers who work in the home and fathers who work outside the home.
It being taboo for a man to admit he might be a working parent if he won the Lotto because he enjoys his job... if he loved his babies enough (i.e. more than the woman) he would go to work sighing with a heavy heart.
And of course, his wages would be lower but the main wage all the childminding came out of...

Aseaandthreestars · 20/06/2014 13:36

When a male Captain makes a pre-flight announcement, all of the women look around and make "Do you think we'll make it?" noises to each other.

The male flight attendants will step out of their high heels and put their slightly lower heels on for in-flight service.

HazleNutt · 20/06/2014 12:35

Having just read a FGM article - Every time there is an article about some problem affecting men, the comments, instead of discussing that issue, would be asking "But what about women!?! Women are affected by this as well. Why are you even concentrating on that issue and ignoring women's similar issue? We should talk about women instead!"

AnotherSpinningFuckingRainbow · 20/06/2014 10:50

A female tennis ace hiring a male coach would cause headlines worldwide.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 20/06/2014 10:49

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 20/06/2014 10:47

Newnham? New Hall, as was, now Murray Edwards. See, I'm confused too.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 20/06/2014 10:47

She's at Newnham, Cambridge.

She occasionally speaks at Oxford.

allhailqueenmab · 20/06/2014 10:42

Great stuff on here, but just wanted to pull this one out by Elephants:

"The Prime Minister and all the other main party leaders would be women with young children, who would happily pose with a newspaper that featured a daily picture of a teenage boy's naked arse. "

OMG! That is such an incredibly jarring image. Really, really odd. Thanks for that one, Elephants.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 20/06/2014 10:33

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AnnieLobeseder · 20/06/2014 10:18

I love that sketch so much, Kim! Always worth watching again.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 20/06/2014 09:40

buffy, in this gender-flip world, have Cambridge and Oxford swapped places? Shock

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BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure · 20/06/2014 08:22

In ReversoWorld, 78% of all front page bylines would be female and 84% of all front page stories would quote or mainly be about females.

A male being featured would most likely be a cute royal in a new blazer, or a victim of crime; a female would be a world leader or other influential figure.

womeninjournalism.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Seen_but_not_heard.pdf

DoctorTwo · 20/06/2014 08:14

I am LMBO at this thread with the exception of one poster.

The mainstream media, as far as I can see, has a predominantly female commentary.

Really ADifferentTake? How many newspaper editors are female? Have you seen the Heil Online, with its sidebar of shame? I suspect you're the type of bloke who has, so you know it's all about judging women for being too fat/thin, wearing too many/few clothes etc.

To come into a lighthearted yet informative thread and yell "what about the menz" screams of Lowest Common Denominator. You, sir, are low hanging fruit and I've spent far too much time reading your vacuous shite and replying to it. Trust me, I shan't bother in future.

KristinaM · 20/06/2014 07:38

Grin at LRD

LRDtheFeministDragon · 20/06/2014 02:35

Oh: and misandrist women would be absolutely convinced, when they deigned to interact with masculinists, of the existance of many women much, much more misandrist than themselves.

This would give the women peculiar pleasure and would be seen as the major justification for telling masculinists to be less masculinist.

This would be seen as 'rational' and 'fair' by all misandrists, who would be completely incapable of recognising their own misandry. They would, paradoxically, be experts in misandry as a subject, hence their superior ability to educate men about the existence of misandrists worse than themselves.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 20/06/2014 02:30

This thread is brilliant. I am distracting myself with it as DH is keeping me awake snoring and spreading out over the bed, so here are some of mine:

Women's uninterrupted sleep would be seen as very important, and everyone would understand it was entirely natural and unavoidable that, in sleep, women tend to spread out their limbs and snore loudly because they're in the most comfortable position. Men would be socialised to find snoring unmasculine, and would have been socialised to take up small amounts of space. After all, women have to go to work in the morning. It may be some men work too, but that is hardly as important - after all, men are much better adapted to be good at multitasking.

Men would feel hesitant about commenting on debates, especially in public, where they might be mocked. It would be commonplace for the media to run stories about men making false rape allegations and ruining women's lives. However, many 'ordinary' men (masculinists, but not that sort of masculinist!) would be outraged and declare it is 'taboo' to talk about the dangers of fale rape allegations because of all the extremist masculinists.

Women would seek out niche chat forums with predominantly male users and post made-up figures 'correcting' what the men had said, with no sources and in perfect confidence every man would immediately agree.

Women would become very angry at men questioning them or rejecting their viewpoints, and would use long words and pseudo-legalistic terminology to subtly remind the men of their lowly place.

Many other men would chip in to argue for the women.

The phrases 'not my Nigella' and 'NAWALT' would be commonplace on masculinist forums. In fact, approximately 20% of all men's forum traffic would in fact be contributed by women, and on threads started by women, it would be more like 80%. Such forums would still be seen as havens of remarkable masculinism by men, and they would repeatedly start threads celebrating this oasis of masculinist freedom.

Parents would refer to boys' genitals as 'smudge' or 'pickle' or 'woo woo'. Girls' genitals would be calls vulvas. Many adult women would not how to refer to the testes and penis accurately - the same word 'widgit' would be used for both, with a sizeable proportion of women unsure where to find the penis. Magazines would run stories about the 'testical orgasm' and men would write in to problem pages saying 'I am 30 years old and have never had an orgasm'. Agony uncles would write back telling them to relax their bodies and try to enjoy kissing.

Tortoiseonthehalfshell · 20/06/2014 02:26

Men would be taught from an early age to never express anger. When they are confronted with a world where the odds are stacked against them over and over again, they do what is expected of them, instead, and cry in frustration.

Those tears are used as proof that they can't be reasoned with.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 20/06/2014 01:45

If a man turned on the radio and heard a group of men discussing something, or a lot of music by men played in sequence, or several poems by men, he would know that it must be a "Man Special" - perhaps for International Men's Day as it never happens any other day of the year. His wife wouldn't even notice that she constantly heard other women's opinions on anything featured in the media.

The Prime Minister and all the other main party leaders would be women with young children, who would happily pose with a newspaper that featured a daily picture of a teenage boy's naked arse.

Every time there's an election or other national occasion, media coverage would be dominated by Joan Bakewell (pic), because only an old white woman would be considered to have the voice of authority.

What sexist behaviour would be the most shocking if reversed?
BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure · 19/06/2014 23:43

Lol at The Onion!