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What sexist behaviour would be the most shocking if reversed?

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GrumpyOldNag · 06/06/2014 17:05

I was thinking feminist thoughts to myself (as you do Grin ), and I was thinking about how this belief that sexism doesn't exist anymore creates a huge backlash against anyone who speaks out against it, which in turn makes people who do in fact believe in equal rights for men and women try to distance themselves from feminism because it's perceived as crazy and unreasonable. The problem is that a lot of it is so ingrained in our culture and society that it is completely normalised, and the majority of people don't even notice it anymore.

So what would be the most obvious, outrageous sexist behaviour, if we swapped the genders? Would it be men being followed, harassed and intimidated in the street, or on the music channel men gyrating and grinding dressed increasingly revealing clothing while women are all fully clothed? Men dancing in the windows of the red light district, or the overwhelming majority of politicians and CEOs being female?

What in your opinion would bring about the most uproar if one day sexism suddenly switched genders?

Sorry if any part of this doesn't make sense, I had a beautifully written OP all typed out and then my iPad lost it all for no apparent reason... Angry

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OscarFrancoisDeJarjayes · 24/06/2014 12:16

Glad to hear. Good on Mr and Mrs Smith.

vladthedisorganised · 24/06/2014 10:03

NotAgainTrevor that was a fantastic post.

Another one - a mainstream newspaper would do a whole article on workwear for men that featured skin-tight shirts and tight trousers which made walking difficult. However, the fashion gurus would assure their readers that it was "a perfect look for the boardroom - it says "I can use my sexuality in a professional way to get business" '. Over the page, women wear 'slick' suits that 'exude authority'.

TimDowling, there is actually a Smith and Daughters business near me! I think it's a monumental masons IIRC.

ShouldHaveMarriedTimDowling · 23/06/2014 22:15

"Go on MY DAUGHTER!!" Would be shouted out at any respectable school sports day.

Shops would be called "Smiths and daughters"

AndHarry · 22/06/2014 22:33

Men being unable to travel alone in much of the world as it would be too unsafe/culturally impossible.

Will now go and RTT.

BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure · 22/06/2014 22:19

Evan tempted Ada with an apple, thereby causing The Fall of Woman and the eviction of womankind from the Garden of Eden.

Thousands of years later, men were still cast as temptresses, and when Brenda Pitt got a divorce, men would wear "Team Jeremy" or "Team Angelo" t-shirts, and most of the blame would be put on the pouting Angelo.

TheCowThatLaughs · 22/06/2014 21:53

Sorry if this has already been said or if I don't explain it well, but the phrase "mothering a child" was used to refer merely tp the moment of conception and the gestation period, while "fathering" of a child meant doing everything else after that!

Scarletohello · 22/06/2014 14:25

Yes there was an interesting book written by a woman who disguised herself as a man for 8 months, it was called Self made man' by Norah Vincent. Fascinating read!

www.nytimes.com/2006/01/22/books/review/22kamp.html?_r=0

HazleNutt · 22/06/2014 11:37

On public transport, women would spread their legs and take half of their neighbour's seat as well. On planes, it would be expected that women hog both armrests, while men fold themselves as small as possible.

I remember an experiment where a woman was disguised as a man. One thing she mentioned was how much space she suddenly had - on the street, in a bar etc, everybody would respectfully give her (when they thought it was a him) space and would not squeeze or push her.

SwiftRelease · 22/06/2014 10:53

Gosh all these are so true. And sad! Yet so many women hate to identify as feminists! About time more of us did? Our silent majority seems generally oblivious is peer-pressured into buying into their sexualisation and exploitation as a consumer and, more particularly, as a female.

vladthedisorganised · 22/06/2014 10:20

Another thought..
A man eats a bar of chocolate. A group of women spend some time commenting on how he'll have to watch the calories, a moment on the lips a lifetime on the hips, nobody loves a lardy lad.. Two more women take a photo of him and post it on a website callled "Men who eat in the street". Many women express their disgust.
Meanwhile, women eat what they like, wherever they want, without comment.

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Essel · 22/06/2014 02:19

If the women's World Cup was far bigger than the men's, and all the guys sat around in pubs watching women playing football and talking about it on Facebook.

I could just never imagine men supporting women's sport the way women support men's sport.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 22/06/2014 01:30

The speeches one is shocking isn't it Salted ? I just cannot imagine a man sitting there smirking silently while his new wife, his wife's best mate from school and his mum all made speeches, and everyone thinking that was ok and normal.

Pleased to say at my friends' weddings so far, all the brides have made speeches (but no bridesmaids or mums yet).

noblegiraffe · 22/06/2014 00:52

Men's clothing being designed to showcase their balls. Trousers could be high or low cut, or with a peephole to give a glimpse of the goodies. Trousers would have crotch slogans to draw the eye. Paparazzi would attempt to get shots of side ball and men would use testes tape to keep them in place. Wardrobe malfunctions where balls fall out of trousers would be common due to the precarious nature of the way they are dressed, and these would appear as top stories on the DM sidebar of shame. Support underwear to display balls to their best advantage would be a major market, with some men stuffing their pants with chicken fillets or padding to make up for their small balls. Everyone remembers the billboard that caused pile-ups of a man with his massive balls propped up to his belly button with the slogan 'Hello girls'.

Men who wear high-waisted trousers are thought to be frigid.

rosabud · 22/06/2014 00:28

You could walk into any high school in the country and find a handful of pupils, nearly all girls in the "exclusion suite" for serious misbehaviour - such as fighting with other girls or swearing at staff etc. You could walk into the classrooms and see girls sprawled across desks engaging the majority of the teacher's time with low level disruption such as calling out, shouting sexual innendos, making farting noises etc The boys in the class would be sitting together either waiting for the teacher to resume the lesson or, having given up, either chatting quietly with other boys or getting on with their work according to how conscientious they are. After school, the girls who had been most disruptive would be given extra time and resources to get rid of their pent up energy by playing team sports. Should they beat the team from the school up the road, they will be lauded and presented with badges at a special assembly and, when they are next disruptive in class, the teachers will make a speical point of commenting on how good their sporting prowess was in the hope that this will get them onside. Should the teacher address any of the boys in the class with a question, or really any observation at all, this will be interupted by one of the girls shouting out either the answer or some hilarious sexual innendo.

GrumpyOldNag · 21/06/2014 23:57

Hullo! Back from the dead, just been reading through the thread and you lot are amazing (and pissed, rightly so!). If anyone tells you sexism doesn't exist anymore, if you see people like this
southern-conservatism.tumblr.com/post/38237773193/i-dont-need-feminism-because-real-feminism-is
Or this
womenagainstfeminism.tumblr.com/post/60758155694/allthingswittyandneko-i-dont-need-feminism
Show them this thread. Tell them what we've just told each other. And then ask them to tell you again why we don't need feminism anymore.

This thread has made me very angry, but in a good way. Thanks

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BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure · 21/06/2014 23:40

"The Prime Minister and all the other main party leaders would be women with young children, who would happily pose with a newspaper that featured a daily picture of a teenage boy's naked arse. "

Yes. And the widespread criticism of this action would not focus on this paper's perpetration of sexism day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, for 44 years and counting, but only on a particular terrible act of that paper 25 years ago.

MrsTerryPratchett · 21/06/2014 23:33

And, vesuvia when they died, and the BBC wrote an article about them, the tone would be sheer amazement that a woman scientist, yes, a women invented something. And, was a woman while she did it. Woman, I tells you.

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27951043 BTW on my Mobile site the title is "Woman who invented Kevlar dies". Presumably because 'Stephanie Kwolek' was too big for the title and Inventor of Kevlar dies wouldn't have fitted either I suppose.

BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure · 21/06/2014 23:29

The male contraceptive pill would have been formulated five decades ago, owing to stringent social and financial enforcement of legal and caring responsibilities for all children.

vesuvia · 21/06/2014 23:23

In an imaginary reversed sexism world, male scientists who make scientific discoveries would be expected to answer the news media's question "do you have a girlfriend?", instead of being asked to describe their scientific breakthrough.

MrsTerryPratchett · 21/06/2014 23:15

Small boys on the beach would wear something like this. Girls would wear something like this.

MrsTerryPratchett · 21/06/2014 23:11

The aisle with 'boys toys' would be only blue, no other colours. The buttons on their toys would say things like, "you go, DIY Prince" and giggle. If they tried to play with anything cool like the robotic pony, they would get laughed at indulgently and called a Tom Girl.

BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure · 21/06/2014 23:11

Boys would have silly flimsy shoes that didn't stay on properly.

Men would have to walk in heels.

All pockets would be removed from men's suits.