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What sexist behaviour would be the most shocking if reversed?

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GrumpyOldNag · 06/06/2014 17:05

I was thinking feminist thoughts to myself (as you do Grin ), and I was thinking about how this belief that sexism doesn't exist anymore creates a huge backlash against anyone who speaks out against it, which in turn makes people who do in fact believe in equal rights for men and women try to distance themselves from feminism because it's perceived as crazy and unreasonable. The problem is that a lot of it is so ingrained in our culture and society that it is completely normalised, and the majority of people don't even notice it anymore.

So what would be the most obvious, outrageous sexist behaviour, if we swapped the genders? Would it be men being followed, harassed and intimidated in the street, or on the music channel men gyrating and grinding dressed increasingly revealing clothing while women are all fully clothed? Men dancing in the windows of the red light district, or the overwhelming majority of politicians and CEOs being female?

What in your opinion would bring about the most uproar if one day sexism suddenly switched genders?

Sorry if any part of this doesn't make sense, I had a beautifully written OP all typed out and then my iPad lost it all for no apparent reason... Angry

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AnnieLobeseder · 26/06/2014 09:17

Adverts for popular condiments would proclaim that it is the "sauce of womanliness!" Because womanliness would be a positive trait that could be used to sell products.

No advertiser would ever have a campaign for "sauce of manliness", because who on earth would aspire to that?

DoingItForMyself · 26/06/2014 09:16

KickAss that beach volleyball one is weird! I hadn't realised quite how odd it is to see decapitated men and shots focussing in on their bums and genitals, it is a very sexualising way to view professional sportsmen, and yet sportswomen are shown this way all the time.

Those captions underneath the photos of women referring to them as "a Spanish player" or "unidentified players" - erm yes, you can't identify them because you've only photographed their arse.

Beachcomber · 26/06/2014 07:02

All over the internet, and in adult stores, there would be videos of women sexually assaulting and torturing men. The men would be classed by race, age, body type. This would be considered entertainment.

(Bit depressing that one but it needed to be said.)

loveableshoulder · 26/06/2014 05:49

School mornings for dads would involve hearing songs sung by their children about how great they are at cooking, cleaning and shopping. Helping with homework is also great, though they don't have a degree. Maths activities include buying cake toppings.

Women's days involve making and shooting bottle rockets.

This school would be entirely staffed by men.

When a dad expresses frustration and outrage with all of this, other dads would look embarrassed and day they think it's just a nice set of activities and maybe he is overthinking it.

RaisingSteam · 26/06/2014 00:35

Another engineering one. Men have to wear womens' uniforms and protective clothing (including dresses) because there apparently aren't enough of them in the industry to need to make it gender specific. It is dayglo pink, flowery and too short for most of them, but they are still expected to be taken seriously as professionals and do their job safely.

(tortoise you didn't by any chance see an article on your subject in your company e-magazine today? Very timely comment)

Tortoiseonthehalfshell · 26/06/2014 00:27

Is this the first ever FWR thread to get to Classics?

Thought of another work one.

In a female-dominated profession, such as engineering, one man has made it to a relatively senior level, by dint of being far more qualified than all the female engineers and working longer hours.

If any of the women, no matter how junior, need something photocopied, they hand it to the man to do.

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CheckpointCharlie · 25/06/2014 22:43

Oh and that was the only pic I could find that wasn't a sexy viking.

HazleNutt · 25/06/2014 22:43

Everybody would assume that Dr or Prof Smith, or a CEO or a GM of a company is a woman. And that the only male employee in the office must be the assistant.

CheckpointCharlie · 25/06/2014 22:42

annie here you are am I allowed to post that by the way??

Grin and still a bit Angry at all these.

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AnnieLobeseder · 25/06/2014 22:24

I want to wear a Viking hat!

I once made one for a fancy dress party out of half a hamster ball, some papier-mâché, a wire coathanger, a lick of paint and some fluff I snipped off my hedgehog slippers. Reckon I could do it again.....

CheckpointCharlie · 25/06/2014 22:12

I found this so depressing to begin with. It's soooooo annoying!

I especially hate the darts dancers and booby paraders round any kind of fighting ring, esp cage fighting.

So mine is men gyrating unnecessarily in front of female darts players, pouting ridiculously at cameras, wearing some of nobles ball posing pouches and sashaying past shitloads of lairy, pissed women wearing Vikings hats and dressed as Tango adverts.

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/06/2014 20:58

When you Googled 'Go Mummy' these would be the pictures that flashed up.

BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure · 25/06/2014 20:53

With Theresa May leading the largest party in the coalition, the few male MPs would be referred to as "May's Macho Muffins"

BeCool · 25/06/2014 20:48

Websites will be set up (and advertised on TV) so you could find and rate quality Tradeswomen!

(FFS - didn't it even occur to this company to use Tradespeople? Really?! I'll never use them.)

Beachcomber · 25/06/2014 20:09

Cheers Rowan!

AnnieLobeseder · 25/06/2014 19:34

Just been back to the Facebook link to this thread, and the worst of the "whataboutthemenz" posts seem to have vanished, thank goodness. But now there's the typical "naturemademenandwomendifferentsoweshouldn'fightit" crap.

AndHarry · 25/06/2014 19:04

Men would be bombarded with cures for imaginary ailments, particularly special yogurts for bloating.

AndHarry · 25/06/2014 18:57

Injured men would be left in excruciating agony for hours to see if they could 'push through it'. Any pain relief eventually administered would be given grudgingly at the lowest possible dosage and the man would be left full of guilt for being a wuss who couldn't do it properly.

Women would be generally expected to have insatiable sexual appetites and needs, while men who enjoyed sex would be seen as cheap trash.

The world envisioned by posters on this thread is a scarily uncaring place :(

I am sorely tempted to hire a white can and practice my best pick-up lines on the local builders though :o

fanjodisfunction · 25/06/2014 17:36

I havmt read the whole thread but I was thinking of the op and it made me think of my situation a lone female working with men. I have been bullied, handed sexually explict magazines and adverts. Ive had to fight for five years to get a female changing room and a locker.

I thought have their been men in my position and I thought yes, a guy on the admin team who was the only male with a workforce of females, they made his life hell for a while. Caling him alsorts and talking about periods and stuff but in the end he was excepted, I on the other hand are still ousted by much of my males colleagues.

Working with men though I find that the way they talk to women making them feel sexually abuwed sometimes is how they talk to each other, the mens changing room is very sexually charged to find a better word. I guess it is all about power.

what does annoy me are the adverts on tv with extreme gender stereotypes, but the media pandering to them is so wrong.

I liked the new bread adverts lately with the single dads, but why are all the baby care adverts just have mums on, and saying mums pick our products etc etc.

I want to see men hoovering, females driving, men washing up.

mynameisred · 25/06/2014 16:53

Brilliant thread, it made me think of the book Egalia's Daughters . It's an old classic from the 70s where the author portrays a society where the roles are reversed, mind boggling to read but it makes you realise how sexist our society really is.

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RowanMumsnet · 25/06/2014 16:30

Hello - hope you don't mind but we've moved this to Mumsnet Classics now.