All these people who cry "burglary!'.

If you dress like a person who gives out grants, you cannot blame the poor burglar for not understanding that you don't wish to have money taken from you.

The problem is that men as a species today just don't know what is expected of them any more - the feminisation of schools, the demonisation of benevolent sexism, not knowing whether a woman will kick you in the nuts of you open a door..... I'm not condoning burglary in any way at all but men today just don't know whether to be a breadwinner or a New Dad or an arsehole any more.

My friend could never be a burglar. He's a doctor and pillar of the community.

Also, some bollocks I made up based on my own assumptions evidence has shown that our caveman ancestors constantly walked into each other's caves and lifted half a sheep and some really good flint. How are people supposed to ignore millennia of crime tradition that is ingrained in their genes? The human race would have died out if not for those thieving bastards therefore it is natural and - by definition - good.

Yes I was going to mention a friend of mine whose actual job is giving out grants. She gets paid for giving stuff away, so how are people supposed to know that it's not ok to just go over to her house and nick the telly? It's her job! She's clearly willing to give stuff away, it's no wonder people are confused about the finer details or where and when. That's just nitpicking.

Well it's obviously the home owners fault. They are only burglars after all. If people go and buy nice things how are the buglars meant to know they don't it to be stolen? If you don't want to be burgled, don't buy nice things, it's simple really. How can we expect the poor burglars to control themselves in the face of nice things, it's what they do, afterall, they have urges and things don't they?

Ah yes UsingMainlySpoons - people should have much less sympathy for shops.

Most people want their houses burgled anyway, they like the attention.

aha! dinner! so as you fed us once, we can of course assume that you don't mind giving us stuff, so we can just help ourselves next time to anything you have.

I love you all, and would like to take you all out to dinner on your lifted credit card.

You know what was just discovered? This person who claimed they had been burgled had once lied on their job application!
Therefore, obviously they are lying about this burglary too.

Even though many other people claim things have gone missing around this burglar and that this burglar had attempted to steal from them as well. But surely, if the alleged victim has lied before in their life, they could not have been burgled.

If people want to put themselves at risk of so called burglary, that is their issue. I can see how the idea starts to form in their mind. They give an over generous tip in a restaurant and then start to regret allowing people into their homes to borrow a cup of sugar and make up these ludicrous stories.

I really think the 'milk tray fantasy' is a straw man argument. A lot of this is caused by introducing young children to the concept of Christmas at too young an age. It encourages in them a desire to give away items of value as supposed gifts while coupling this desire with a fascination with a bearded man who lets himself into other people's houses down a chimney without their consent. Christmas gift giving should only happen within Christian marriage, or burglary is bound to happen.

I'm not saying that it is acceptable to overpower a 15 year old when they open the door, in order to steal their belongings, but some of the blame has to lie with the parents. And what kind of parent allows a 15 year old to open a front door in the first place? If you're not old enough or responsible enough to take out a mortgage, then you shouldn't be allowed a key to a property.

Look, if you know a bloke works for Pickfords, surely it's partly your own responsibility if you move into the same street and let him actually see other removal men carrying furniture into your house?

Haha, I used the far side of fuck line yesterday Anyf!!

Great thread, shame it's on chat and will disappear in 90 days.

Which thread is this a run on from then? where's the rape apologists?

< proud of self to be first on thread (under another name >

My friend once invited me round for a cuppa. While I was there, she let me use her toilet. She also gave me some biscuits and when I left I took with me some leftover cake for my DC.

So a few nights later I fancied another biscuit and a DVD player So, as she had let me in before and allowed me to use and take her stuff, I felt I was entitled to go back and take a bit more. At no point had she said to me, 'This is a one-off, you may have a biscuit today but may not just help yourself whenever you choose'. Therefore I was absolutely in the right to assume that what had been on offer once was a permanent arrangement.

Well, you wouldn't believe the outrage. I let myself in through a window and helped myself. When she appeared in the doorway and seemed cross, I pointed out that this was the precedent and unfortunately I had to hurt her.

Luckily, she could not prove that I had eaten any of her biscuits. Nor could she prove, as I was a friend, that the grubby prints all over the biscuit tin were not there from our previous binge. I feel lucky to have escaped but she should have been more clear. How am I supposed to distinguish between acceptable and not, use my moral compass? Or my sense of decency? Tis a lot to ask.

So sorry about your parrot rhubarb

Jump, this does not surprise me at all, tbh. I know victims who have been told they must be lying because they are 'too fat'.

oh I didn't realise this was about an actual thread, just comments that are usually made by the public and media

Ah I see
Well you see what comes of starting a thread and not telling us the whole story! Tut!

So me saying that my bird was on display is a metaphor too is it?

I've been sent a link to the original thread and I think I shall refrain from posting my bird story on there. I don't think they would get it.