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Are remarks/review of marking just for the wealthy?

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runner2023 · 21/08/2025 19:19

I have 2 friends whose children have sat exams this year.

Parent A: Her DD got 4 A stars and an A last year for A level and had a place at Oxford. Parent A put in for a remark for the A grade and her DD then was awarded 5 A stars.
Today her DS got 2 x 6s in English, she requesting remarks and also for maths and physics because DS 'only' got an 8 and she would like 9s. This must be costing her a fortune to have 4 subjects remarked. He got 9999998877766. They are well off.

Parent B: DD got AAC and needed AAB for a place at the LSE (contextual as she goes to a low achieving school). She lost her firm and is going to City University instead. She was 3 marks off a B grade, but parent B can not afford a remark and said it the same cost as a week's shopping. Her DD is fine with going to her insurance. The family has 4 children. They are not on the breadline but money is tight.

It seems the wealthy are able to request remarks at the drop of a hat. This seems very unfair.

OP posts:
Drfosters · 22/08/2025 08:27

StreetStrife · 22/08/2025 08:20

And I agree that remarks, and other ways of 'playing the system' are absolutely the realm of the wealthy. How many children miss out because of their parents lack of knowledge of these things too? Or their parents acceptance of external authority? Wealthy entitled parents continue to push their children ahead. It's a deeply flawed system, rooted in British class culture.

But all schools should offer the service. I know someone who works in a relatively deprived school and she said they advise straight away on those who could have a remark. Doesn’t require parental involvement at all. It just involves a school saying, you are 1 or 2 marks around a boundary, fill out the form and pay the fee. If someone can’t afford it you can order the script for free so a teacher can review and decide at that point if there is a chance of success.

HarrietBond · 22/08/2025 08:23

StreetStrife · 22/08/2025 08:20

And I agree that remarks, and other ways of 'playing the system' are absolutely the realm of the wealthy. How many children miss out because of their parents lack of knowledge of these things too? Or their parents acceptance of external authority? Wealthy entitled parents continue to push their children ahead. It's a deeply flawed system, rooted in British class culture.

Honestly I read the HE board on here and the level of involvement and knowledge of parents in university courses and applications blows my mind. When it comes to remarks, clearing, years out etc there is so obviously a two tier system, not necessarily financial but definitely around how much your parents know.

ETA and I will be one of those parents when the time comes to an extent, and my parents very much weren’t, so I know the difference.

BCBird · 22/08/2025 08:22

Octavia64 · 21/08/2025 19:27

Schools will pay for the remark if they think it is worth it,

they can ask for exam papers back and check them.

we used to spend hours doing it every August.

This is the case. Dislike the team low achieving school. Is it low achieving or are the results lower? This is not the same

StreetStrife · 22/08/2025 08:20

And I agree that remarks, and other ways of 'playing the system' are absolutely the realm of the wealthy. How many children miss out because of their parents lack of knowledge of these things too? Or their parents acceptance of external authority? Wealthy entitled parents continue to push their children ahead. It's a deeply flawed system, rooted in British class culture.

GiantTeddyIsTired · 22/08/2025 08:16

twistyizzy · 22/08/2025 08:01

GCSEs aren't meant to be taken early. The whole point is to have a 2 year course which culminates in Yr 11 series of exams ie under pressure.
I accept I was mistaken and some children take 13 however they are in a minority. Majority take 8-9, some take 11 and a very few take 13.

But they can be, they're just exams - you can pay to take whatever exams you like - again, back in my school there was a boy who spent his summers with his dad in France, so he took a French GCSE in year 10.

It's too long ago, but I think there were a couple of other exceptions where some kids took exams in year 10 for whatever special reason that meant they could

StreetStrife · 22/08/2025 08:13

twistyizzy · 22/08/2025 08:01

GCSEs aren't meant to be taken early. The whole point is to have a 2 year course which culminates in Yr 11 series of exams ie under pressure.
I accept I was mistaken and some children take 13 however they are in a minority. Majority take 8-9, some take 11 and a very few take 13.

The whole point? And we wonder why teens have such poor mental health... Our specific exam system is mostly a cultural hangover when you think about it, and there are certainly many different ways ability and achievement could be measured, each with pros and cons. If children are ready earlier and can spread out their GCSEs and reduce the stress then why shouldn't they? Packing in extra for the sake of it or some misguided sense of kudos, however, is a whole other level of unnecessary stress for some children. Others might be ok with it, at least on the face of it.

HarrietBond · 22/08/2025 08:10

I’ve got 13 GCSEs. One done in the autumn of year 11, two at the end of year 12. Back in the 90s. And quite a few people I knew back then did 5 A levels with the fifth being General Studies.

Not quite the point though. OP, I rather agree with you. I was looking at A level results videos on TikTok with my DC and noticed how routinely remarks were being discussed by kids who were very obviously from wealthy backgrounds, and barely mentioned by those who weren’t.

Drfosters · 22/08/2025 08:07

I would assume that person B could have afforded the remarks in they had had 2 children like I assume person A did? (You don’t specifically mention so I take to imply that they have 1 or 2) You aren’t comparing like with like so I don’t think it is unfair that person A has chosen to spend their money on things like this whereas person B made a choice to spend their resources on other children. Every parent makes this choice surely and has to answer to their children about the choice they made.

twistyizzy · 22/08/2025 08:01

GiantTeddyIsTired · 22/08/2025 07:59

I did 11 in a bog standard comp 30 years ago.. I fully believe that kids in that kind of school did 13 - especially since they explained they did some early..

GCSEs aren't meant to be taken early. The whole point is to have a 2 year course which culminates in Yr 11 series of exams ie under pressure.
I accept I was mistaken and some children take 13 however they are in a minority. Majority take 8-9, some take 11 and a very few take 13.

GiantTeddyIsTired · 22/08/2025 07:59

twistyizzy · 21/08/2025 19:45

OK fair enough but I've never heard of it. 11 is pushing it. That means they sat over 30 exams?

I did 11 in a bog standard comp 30 years ago.. I fully believe that kids in that kind of school did 13 - especially since they explained they did some early..

RitaConnors · 22/08/2025 07:53

PeonyBulb · 22/08/2025 05:50

You are very out of touch if you think that everyone can get extra cash any of those ways

some people just can’t

There is no safety net for some

I just advised my DD’s friend to ask the school get a paper remarked and if they could pay for it because she’s a pupil premium student and they did. The school must have the papers and the teachers must have looked at them because the subject teacher emailed her and told her which paper she should ask for a remark on.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 22/08/2025 07:40

PeonyBulb · 22/08/2025 05:50

You are very out of touch if you think that everyone can get extra cash any of those ways

some people just can’t

There is no safety net for some

I've been in that lack of safety net zone. 2 of us surviving for weeks on economy beans and basic bread. Use of foodbanks. I'd do it again for my DS's education.

PeonyBulb · 22/08/2025 05:52

catsareace · 21/08/2025 19:34

Or 5 A-levels.

My DS did

He chose a 5th one because the subject interested him

The timetable didn’t allow for him to be timetabled for lessons but he conferred with a teacher

PeonyBulb · 22/08/2025 05:50

Slightyamusedandsilly · 21/08/2025 19:29

Hmmmm, if I was parent B, I'd have found the money somewhere. A week on pasta and sandwiches. A few hours overtime. Approach grandparents for help. Different if it were all 3 subjects, but since it was just 1...

You are very out of touch if you think that everyone can get extra cash any of those ways

some people just can’t

There is no safety net for some

3WildOnes · 21/08/2025 21:32

I think family B were very short sighted in not paying the £80? for a priority remark. LSE is leagues above city university. I think she has been very poorly advised and feel dreadfully sorry for her.

Mom2526 · 21/08/2025 21:23

twistyizzy · 21/08/2025 19:45

OK fair enough but I've never heard of it. 11 is pushing it. That means they sat over 30 exams?

The exams are over a few weeks though. I think Art was earlier in the spring than the others. It just works out that way if they end up doing triple science and further maths at our school. We also have compulsory RE. It was actually ok. I don't think we'd be up for 5 A levels though.

LottieMary · 21/08/2025 20:21

Octavia64 · 21/08/2025 19:27

Schools will pay for the remark if they think it is worth it,

they can ask for exam papers back and check them.

we used to spend hours doing it every August.

Sadly this is rarely true. As HOD zenglish if I did this I’d rattle through my budget before September. Occasionally I may pay for one if I know a student is really financially struggling and think they’re absolutely wrongly marked but the gamble is too great for me to do more than one or two papers a year

Mangetouts · 21/08/2025 20:11

HardworkSendHelp · 21/08/2025 19:57

It does the op has listed the results as
6 9’s
2 8’s
3 7’s
2 6’s
So that is 13
Some very gifted people do more than the 9 or 10 GCSES
The flipping daughter did 5 A levels which is not normal either, but not unheard of.

Someone else has already pointed it out thankyou

Absentmindedsmile · 21/08/2025 20:06

Silverbirchleaf · 21/08/2025 19:50

Yes, we paid for some papers to be re-marked. If the grade changes as a result, you get a refund.

Exactly. This post is nonsense.

bumbaloo · 21/08/2025 19:58

runner2023 · 21/08/2025 19:32

Yep, they do. DS went to the same school. They take 3 GSCEs in Yr 9/10 and 10 in Y11.

They want be super wealthy as top independent schools won’t let dc sit 13

HardworkSendHelp · 21/08/2025 19:57

Mangetouts · 21/08/2025 19:25

It doesn't say anything about 13 ?

It does the op has listed the results as
6 9’s
2 8’s
3 7’s
2 6’s
So that is 13
Some very gifted people do more than the 9 or 10 GCSES
The flipping daughter did 5 A levels which is not normal either, but not unheard of.

Mangetouts · 21/08/2025 19:56

twistyizzy · 21/08/2025 19:25

9999998877766

That's 13

Duly counted thankyou

Silverbirchleaf · 21/08/2025 19:50

Yes, we paid for some papers to be re-marked. If the grade changes as a result, you get a refund.

twistyizzy · 21/08/2025 19:46

runner2023 · 21/08/2025 19:32

Yep, they do. DS went to the same school. They take 3 GSCEs in Yr 9/10 and 10 in Y11.

Why? What's the point? Do you mean they sit in Yr 10 and then re-sit in Yr 11?
Which subjects?

twistyizzy · 21/08/2025 19:45

Mom2526 · 21/08/2025 19:36

Yes they do. Dd did as did her cousin, both in state schools.

OK fair enough but I've never heard of it. 11 is pushing it. That means they sat over 30 exams?

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