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A Level Results - Can't shake disappointment

191 replies

WoodforTrees · 15/08/2025 23:19

In short, I feel unreasonably sad for DS following results day, despite the fact that he himself seems perfectly happy with his insurance. He does have form for trying to show a sunny disposition through disappointment, but I do believe he is genuinely ok with his outcome.

I however have been tearful all day today (literally bursting into tears when alone) and am really struggling (but managing) to hide my sadness. I am trying to make sense of my feelings and make it stop. This overwhelming sadness happened once before - around six years ago - over something that should not have triggered the level of emotion it did, and it took me a while to start feeling rational and gain perspective. I don't want to go there again.

I just feel like the whole world got into their Firm yesterday, and DS didn't.

He missed his RG (lowered on results day) offer by one grade (genuinely mitigating circumstances for him dropping that one subject that I won't bore people with) and has ended up at a perfectly ok mid-tier ex poly. All his mates - similar mocks across the year and similar results - some better, many worse got their Firms and are off to top Unis and I just feel gutted for him.

I am also worrying that now that top tier Universities have swept up lower grade students, the mid-tier Unis are going to be half-full or padded out with students that aren't that bothered. And how that will effect the cohort and his Uni experience in general.

I don't know. I just feel really sad for him, i don't know a single person that didn't get their Firm this year except DS and it stings being in that 18% that didn't. I want to celebrate him but I just can't shake the disappointment. I don't understand why I feel so affected by this?

Did anyone else not get their Firm and feel a bit like this?

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RawBloomers · 16/08/2025 06:16

OP nearly 1 in 5 students didn’t make it into their first choice uni this year. Many of those won’t have made their second choice either.

You’re DC’s life isn’t going to be decided by this one point in time. Thousands of different decisions and random events are going to mould the path he follows in life. The way to maximise life is to make the best of what comes to you. That counts for your DC and for you too.

Cinaferna · 16/08/2025 06:10

clary · 16/08/2025 00:48

Do you have evidence for this?

I have the following anecdata:

A colleague was interviewing candidates for a competitive job and said, impressed, of one candidate, “she's got a first in xxx subject” – from Sheffield Hallam. She got the job.

A friend of mine who went to Leeds Beckett (when it cannot long have been a uni thb) is the CEO of a major public sector org locally and earns three times what I do with my degree from Bristol uni.

A friend's DC is at UWE studying a vocational degree that will lead to certain and well-paid employment – in fact they had a degree-related job, fully paid, in the summer after their first year.

This. One of the richest, most successful business people I know went to an ex-poly while I know Oxbridge people in low paid work decades on.

Rozendantz · 16/08/2025 05:49

A year ago DS was in a similar position where he hadn't got into the uni of his dreams. He'd definitely have been able to go to his next choice, but realised he didn't want to. So he went through clearing and chose the same course at an RG uni that he'd never even visited...and is absolutely thriving. And looking back, he can say with confidence that the one he missed out on would have been the wrong fit for him.

I'd suggest (as others have upthread) that he looks at other options through clearing before making any final decisions.

NeverHadHaveHas · 16/08/2025 05:38

I missed my first choice RG uni by one grade 20 years ago. I went to a smaller, less well known and lower ranked uni and had a great time while I was there.

I now earn £125k+ in an extremely competitive profession because I worked hard at uni but also made sure I got as much relevant work experience as I could while at uni and got my foot in the door.

After your first couple of jobs, I think work experience is much more relevant than uni when applying for a job. I would bet a lot of money that my boss wouldn’t have a clue which uni I went to. I don’t have a clue which uni my direct reports went to.

I honestly feel like not getting the grades was a sliding doors moment for me and I’m so glad I missed them. If I had gone to the uni I planned I would never have met my dh, my kids wouldn’t be here…

For your son this is just a slight plot twist in what for most people is a very twisty life. It’s great that he’s learning how to adapt and see the positives at such a young age.

Kindly, this is a chapter in his life, not yours, and it could be a great chapter.

RafaistheKingofClay · 16/08/2025 05:21

ShineLucy · 16/08/2025 01:42

Me too! Only the U.K. is this snooty about ex polys. It’s really classist and elitist. Not to mention the fact that many employers eg civil service and chambers now recruit blind anyway so it’s irrelevant.

I went to a not great “ex poly” (really dicked around during a levels and went to a coasting school where nobody cared - big regret of mine but c’est la vie) graduated top of my year and am a lawyer now, did a Masters at a “better” uni and am qualified in two jurisdictions.

I also know people who went to RG unis and came out with 2.2s but somehow thought the name of the Uni would carry them - it didn’t.

Edited

Not even the UK being snooty. Mostly just MN.

prelovedusername · 16/08/2025 05:07

You’re overthinking OP. Your DS is happy with his choice. If he finds when he gets there that it doesn’t live up to expectations, there are ways of changing. If he approaches it with positivity he’s likely to thrive. Concentrate on finding him a great place to live where he’ll meet his lifelong friends.

beachcitygirl · 16/08/2025 04:49

I wouldn’t encourage my kids to waste mo eu on a second tier uni. Best to either try clearing or try again next year or get an apprenticeship. Sorry

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 16/08/2025 04:37

Cantsleepwontsleepeveragain · 16/08/2025 00:41

I think you are right to be disappointed OP. A degree from an ex-poly is not likely to be well thought of by prospective employers and he could end up with a lot of debt for a pretty worthless degree. Not PC to say that but it’s true.

This is such bollocks.

All 3 of ours went to ex polys. Ones a lecturer now at our local red brick, 😂 one did an MA at a redbrick and has a fantastic job in media and one is working quite high up in civil service.

The obsession with red bricks on MN is pathetic. My nephew went to an ex poly he’s on 50k a year with a car now. 2 years after graduating. His sister who also went to an ex poly is finishing a PhD in psychology.

Get real.

LegoPicnic · 16/08/2025 04:28

clary · 16/08/2025 00:48

Do you have evidence for this?

I have the following anecdata:

A colleague was interviewing candidates for a competitive job and said, impressed, of one candidate, “she's got a first in xxx subject” – from Sheffield Hallam. She got the job.

A friend of mine who went to Leeds Beckett (when it cannot long have been a uni thb) is the CEO of a major public sector org locally and earns three times what I do with my degree from Bristol uni.

A friend's DC is at UWE studying a vocational degree that will lead to certain and well-paid employment – in fact they had a degree-related job, fully paid, in the summer after their first year.

And to add to the anecdata: I know of several good graduate schemes that recruit university-blind.

It may still be an issue for the more fusty employers, but I think they’re in a minority these days

Dery · 16/08/2025 04:09

“GravyBoatWars · Today 02:03

OP, is it possible that you’ve got a bit of disappointment about the results that is actually sort of piggybacking onto other feelings about DS hitting this milestone and preparing to leave home?”

@WoodforTrees - this. As many PP have said, many ex-polys are fantastic places to study and turn out extremely able graduates. I’m a lawyer and some of my most able and successful colleagues did their law degrees at ex-polys and non-RG unis. Indeed, one of our recently retired senior partners who’s been incredibly successful did his law degree at a poly.

And from what you say, this was your son’s preferred destination in any case.

And perhaps this is in part a residue of the stress and, as Gravy says, about other feelings too. It’s been a huge relief that DD got what she needed for uni (she could only do her chosen subject at her firm) but there are some other big changes coming up in our family, particularly for me, so I’m still feeling pretty strung-out.

Lampzade · 16/08/2025 04:07

No3392 · 16/08/2025 00:01

You need to get over yourself. He is happy. It's not about you.

Exactly
FFs Op, your ds is ok and will be fine . You should be relieved

Greenfingers37 · 16/08/2025 03:50

My son went to an ex poly university (it was his first choice), got a Desmond (2:2) which he was disappointed with but managed to secure the first graduate job he applied for because the company loved his personality, said he excelled at the interviews and they could see his potential. He has smashed his training year and will be fully qualified and very well paid at the end of this month. His employers couldn’t have cared less which university he went to. It’s about so much more than that.
Wishing your son well.

REDB99 · 16/08/2025 02:35

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I did this, not happy at one Uni, transferred into RG uni after first year. They have people who drop out and it’s better for them that places are filled. So I agree this is potentially an option.

GravyBoatWars · 16/08/2025 02:03

OP, is it possible that you’ve got a bit of disappointment about the results that is actually sort of piggybacking onto other feelings about DS hitting this milestone and preparing to leave home?

Our oldest had the news she wanted yesterday but I’ll admit I’ve still got some mixed feelings today because the idea of her moving away suddenly seems far more concrete and fast approaching. I’m thrilled for her and confident she’ll do well, but growth and change always require loss of what we have/had and I think it’s ok to grieve that loss some as long as we don’t burden our DC with it.

Meadowfinch · 16/08/2025 01:45

I went to a poly while it was still a poly. I graduated with a business degree that has provided forty years of interesting and well paid career.

Some of them are outstandingly successful.

ShineLucy · 16/08/2025 01:42

Blibbleflibble · 16/08/2025 00:43

OP I graduated from a second rate ex poly but I had the absolute time of my life and made life long friends (including meeting my DH with the same career aspirations). Went on to get a masters degree, both got our careers in our chosen (and very competitive) field, have a lovely house in a nice Cheshire village and my DC goes to a fantastic primary school. I can't imagine my life could have turned out better.

Honestly everything will be alright. Xx Send them my congratulations! Their next chapter in life is the best. Xx

Me too! Only the U.K. is this snooty about ex polys. It’s really classist and elitist. Not to mention the fact that many employers eg civil service and chambers now recruit blind anyway so it’s irrelevant.

I went to a not great “ex poly” (really dicked around during a levels and went to a coasting school where nobody cared - big regret of mine but c’est la vie) graduated top of my year and am a lawyer now, did a Masters at a “better” uni and am qualified in two jurisdictions.

I also know people who went to RG unis and came out with 2.2s but somehow thought the name of the Uni would carry them - it didn’t.

Obimumkinobi · 16/08/2025 01:20

Meant to add, don't let comparison be the thief of joy, OP. Be, outwardly at least, excited for the next phase of his life, as it will make him feel positive too.

Obimumkinobi · 16/08/2025 01:12

Cantsleepwontsleepeveragain · 16/08/2025 00:41

I think you are right to be disappointed OP. A degree from an ex-poly is not likely to be well thought of by prospective employers and he could end up with a lot of debt for a pretty worthless degree. Not PC to say that but it’s true.

I think the potential for lifelong debt and not finding work in the field you studied in is widespread now, regardless of where you studied.

I've been hiring people for nearly 30 years and where they went to uni really isn't a priority. It's about what they've done over and above their studies and whether they're keen, and demonstrate potential. My friend's Oxbridge graduate daughter was sadly made redundant and has been job searching for 6 months. She has a first in languages and 2 years work experience behind her.

Iocainepowder · 16/08/2025 01:12

Cantsleepwontsleepeveragain · 16/08/2025 00:41

I think you are right to be disappointed OP. A degree from an ex-poly is not likely to be well thought of by prospective employers and he could end up with a lot of debt for a pretty worthless degree. Not PC to say that but it’s true.

I’m not sure this is strictly true as there are other factors at play when job hunting:

-Having a clearer career path goal using your specific degree
-Having actual work experience on your cv

Cantsleepwontsleepeveragain · 16/08/2025 01:11

I feel sorry for the majority of young people today who are being conned that having a degree will lead to a graduate level job. It would be better to go back to the old system where the academically gifted went to university and the rest went into employment at 16 or 18 rather than being saddled with massive debt for a worthless degree.

Iocainepowder · 16/08/2025 01:09

I went to a RG uni and my experience is that it’s more important to be armed with knowledge and support on how you can use the degree to follow a career path/get a job aftee you graduate.

I had no idea what to do after uni and 14 years later although my career is fine, none of it needs any degree.

HellonHeels · 16/08/2025 01:05

SabrinaThwaite · 16/08/2025 00:44

I think ‘mid tier ex polys’ get a raw deal, they are often remarkably good.

RG can be a lot of style (and marketing) over substance.

Agree with this.

clary · 16/08/2025 01:05

Cantsleepwontsleepeveragain · 16/08/2025 01:01

A ridiculously high percentage of degrees (over 30%?) are awarded as firsts these days too so it doesn’t mean the same as it did a few decades ago

I don’t dispute that, but my point was that the candidate with the first from the “ex-poly” was still given the well-paid role. Partly bc of their degree, as I read it. Not solely obv but the fact that it was from an ex-poly was not an issue.

Cantsleepwontsleepeveragain · 16/08/2025 01:01

clary · 16/08/2025 00:48

Do you have evidence for this?

I have the following anecdata:

A colleague was interviewing candidates for a competitive job and said, impressed, of one candidate, “she's got a first in xxx subject” – from Sheffield Hallam. She got the job.

A friend of mine who went to Leeds Beckett (when it cannot long have been a uni thb) is the CEO of a major public sector org locally and earns three times what I do with my degree from Bristol uni.

A friend's DC is at UWE studying a vocational degree that will lead to certain and well-paid employment – in fact they had a degree-related job, fully paid, in the summer after their first year.

A ridiculously high percentage of degrees (over 30%?) are awarded as firsts these days too so it doesn’t mean the same as it did a few decades ago

Bumblebee72 · 16/08/2025 00:59

Presumably your son liked the Uni he is going to enough to select it has his second choice? Be happy for him