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A level Business, Media Studies & Sociokogy/Psychology

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kimlek · 28/07/2023 18:02

None of these are GCSE options at school but DC considering them for A level. Is very definite about Business (defo not economics) and interested in psychology or maybe sociology but know little about the A levels. Very interested in Business/Marketing/Digital marketing/the fashion industry (but not arty), so also thinking the 3rd could be media studies. Not yet done GCSEs but probs 6/7’s. Any thoughts please?

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Piggywaspushed · 29/07/2023 12:03

OP, the most common degree course my sociologists head for (outside of subjects tied to other A levels such as geography) are marketing, business,law, media.

Our entry requirements are 4 + for English. The ones with 4s really struggle, obviously but 6/7 shouldn't be an issue at all. Teachers do teach the skills!

Piggywaspushed · 29/07/2023 11:59

Sociology teacher here, reporting for duty!

I also teach a subject akin to media (but more fun!). Media has been 'reformed' , like all A level and is , sadly, vvvvvv dry now. All the theory that was shared between two A level subjects was parked in media. Is the business the business A level or eg a CNAT wit coursework? DS1 found business A level very dull. My school offers the more coursework based version and the students get high grades.

Sociology is a 100% essay writing subject. Lots of memorisation of theorists, date, research studies. It's not easy. Don't want to irritate any psychologists on here, but my students say sociology is more demanding in terms of revision, depth of learning and recall and develops writing skills more. Both are interesting , though ,as they focus on human behaviour, with different emphases. MN favours psychology over sociology (because STEM) and no doubt the sneerers and naysayers will appear. It's the biggest growing A level and, I think the 5thmost popular now.

I would be extremely wary of adoption of the all shiny new subjects approach at A level. Doing three completely new subjects often isn't a good idea.

smooththecat · 29/07/2023 11:46

I have taught A level Media Studies (as well as English). Just be aware that the figures show that it’s very difficult to get high grades in. You have to be good at essay writing/forming and evidencing arguments AND practical work. In my opinion it’s more challenging than English.

Oblomov23 · 29/07/2023 11:41

He did Business GCSE, but sociology and psychology was new at A-level and was not offered at GCSE, which is very common in a lot of schools so I don't think worrying about doing a fresh a level is a worry at all. I think that should be the least of your concerns.

kimlek · 29/07/2023 10:48

I’m not sure if 4 subjects will be permitted, but I can ask. I’m also not sure if the combi will be ok or if there’ll be clashes. You submit choices first and then they see.

DC not remotely mathsy (6/7 gcse) so defo not A level maths. History ok but I’ve an older one who did A level History after getting 9 in GCSE and it’s been tricky.

yes, that’s what we are thinking @Nextlifestage re the grade profile of students choosing business over economics. Hence DC thinking business - econ would be too mathsy. I’m concerned similar may be said for psychol. It’s hard to gauge how mathsy psychol will be. I do know it’s a proper science and well respected. DC is interested in psychology but probably not the bio related aspects. Not very science oriented and struggles at all 3 - probs 6’s maybe a 5.

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christmastreefarm · 29/07/2023 10:34

Can he do 4 and drop one at half term: my dd is doing 2 new ones (classics and psychology) and really cannot decide between them so plan is 4 until October half term / Xmas and then make a call which she will continue.

Nextlifestage · 29/07/2023 10:05

I've no personal knowledge of those subjects but my 2p worth.
My ds says business studies is perceived as an "easier" A level than economics but that the grade boundaries are thought to be high so someone with 6/7 should do reasonably well as many will be sitting it with lower GCSE grades. (His perception from his school is that the 7-9 cohort tend to do economics and the 4-6 cohort tend to do business studies, obviously with some overlap).
My friend's child did Art, Media Studies and Sociology A level. Her GCSE profile was mostly 5s with a couple of 6s and a couple of 4s. She got her worst grade (C) in sociology but really liked it and found it interesting. Media Studies she found hardest because it was quite different from anything she had done before (but got a B).
Lots of my friends' children have done Psychology. I think it's quite "science"y and those who have done (for example) Maths, Biology and Psychology have done a lot better because there's more overlap of subject content.
I think there's something to be said for doing one familiar subject (though not maths unless getting 8/9 in maths) but, if it was my child considering those options, I'd advise sociology over psychology.

tennissquare · 29/07/2023 09:41

I work in education, sociology is seen as a good A level if you are considering Btec route or A levels. Uni admissions is driven by predicted grades, it's important to choose A levels she will do well in. Business/psychology/sociology is a solid combination. Look at the a level results of a local sixth form college and look at the number of students sitting each course and the percentage o( Astar to A or Astar to B achieved. For psychology at any sixth form you will see a good set of results.

LIZS · 29/07/2023 09:24

If they are all new it might be worth substituting one for a known subject like maths, history or geography to reduce risk of not liking them or to have one which they should do well at. What do they hope to do afterwards?

kimlek · 29/07/2023 09:08

@tennissquare why is sociology a good option for 6/7s at GCSE please? Would it be too tricky for 5/6 profile? Is that compared to psychology? Do you teach one of them?

@dogsweetdog why do you think business, psychol, media would be the better combination please? I think you are possibly correct as Bath Uni for business (only for example) say they want a mathsy/science A level and also a social science/essay A level. Psychology is accepted for the mathsy/science whereas there wouldn’t be one with the business, sociology, media combo. But wondering if you’ve another rationale?

@Oblomov23 no definite course as yet but thinking Business, Marketing, Communications and also interested in combining those types of things with fashion industry (not arty, not designing etc, more buyer type jobs) but it’s all a general ball park. Grades from AAA downwards for uni but if there’s any apprenticeships in the right area then that’s a possibility but I think most likely Uni. Did your DS enjoy sociology and/or psychol even though psychol a bit trickier? Oh, and had he done any of the 3 at GCSE?

I am concerned doing none of the 4 at gcse a bit risky!

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Oblomov23 · 29/07/2023 08:50

Ds1 did Business, Sociology and Psychology, through timetable clashes he had limited choice. He now wishes he'd done maths. He found psychology trickier than sociology, it's more sciency and theory based.
What's the plan? Uni? Which courses and what Are their entry requirements?

christmastreefarm · 29/07/2023 07:22

My DD is doing Sociology A level - she has found it quite easy at GCSE. The A level syllabus is apparently pretty similar so she is hoping its an easy option (she does love it though as well)

dogsweetdog · 29/07/2023 07:01

tennissquare · 29/07/2023 05:17

Business with psychology and sociology should be fine. Psychology is 1 of the most popular A levels in the U.K. and sociology is a good option for those achieving 6/7's at gcse.

Sociology A level must've changed then, it was flipping hard at A level when I did it, found psychology much easier.

OP, for the sort of job your dd is interested in, I'd say business, media and psychology would be the better combination.

tennissquare · 29/07/2023 05:17

Business with psychology and sociology should be fine. Psychology is 1 of the most popular A levels in the U.K. and sociology is a good option for those achieving 6/7's at gcse.