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Original poster

Is it true that clever people go to 6th form and people who aren't go to college

469 replies

thistimeiknowitsforreal · 21/06/2022 21:08

Evening all,

It was always drummed into me that after GCSE`s that if you are intelligent you went to or stayed at school and went to 6th form depending on your previous circumstances.

But if you weren't good enough you went to college instead.

Whats your experience in this area ?

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TotteringByGenteeley · 30/10/2022 16:43

In our area, sixth forms do A Levels and you have to get 5 or more good passes at GCSE to attend (some schools require 8 or more good GCSEs at grade 6/7 and above).

Colleges run a wider range of courses and students who don't qualify for sixth form will find a suitable place there to study.

pointythings · 30/10/2022 16:41

Let's face it, anyone who describes learning arts subjects as 'that Theatre and Music cobblers' isn't worth listening to.

Comefromaway · 30/10/2022 16:10

I already did and they said they were aware of the poster and were keeping an eye.

I think the OP crossed a line with you & then proceeded to do so with me. I got an apology, you did not.

but the blatant contradiction shows the posts are purely to rile people

Original poster
thistimeiknowitsforreal · 30/10/2022 16:09

I am sorry to anyone i may have offended on here.

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TeenDivided · 30/10/2022 15:44

I was wondering, as the OP is starting to get quite rude about people's choices, and has never properly engaged, how would others feel if I reported the thread to see what MN thinks? Or is it useful for it to stay up anyway?

TheMoops · 30/10/2022 15:40

pointythings · 30/10/2022 15:34

@TheMoops thank you for retrieving that comment, I didn't have the will to live. Appreciate your effort.

No problem.
It really pissed me off so it stuck in my mind.

pointythings · 30/10/2022 15:34

@TheMoops thank you for retrieving that comment, I didn't have the will to live. Appreciate your effort.

magma32 · 30/10/2022 15:08

Depends what you mean by college.

in my hometown there were sixth forms attached to schools so colleges were the further education type which were not very academic but more vocational. The specific college had a reputation for attracting students that didn’t do well at school and were retaking or taking voacationap courses as they didn’t get onto a levels. But also attracted those who were focussed and more suited to vocational courses.

where I am now there aren’t any school 6th forms except for the independent school so there are a few sixth form colleges that have very good a level results and send students onto good universities. If that’s what you mean by clever.

are you of a certain culture by any chance. I say this as people from my culture have this black and white attitude to ‘cleverness’ ie academic results. Once they get out a bit more they realise there is more to it than that!

TheMoops · 30/10/2022 15:07

Why not get rid of the Theatre and Music cobblers and do something else ?

Yeah, this is the type of comment someone who values the arts makes....🙄

Do you even read what you post??

Original poster
thistimeiknowitsforreal · 30/10/2022 14:59

pointythings · 30/10/2022 14:55

Completely aside from your insensitivity, I also find your comment totally dismissing the arts as being of any value ignorant. You seem to be all about knowing the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Nothing against the arts and music.

The world would be a duller place without it.

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pointythings · 30/10/2022 14:55

Completely aside from your insensitivity, I also find your comment totally dismissing the arts as being of any value ignorant. You seem to be all about knowing the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Original poster
thistimeiknowitsforreal · 30/10/2022 13:53

Comefromaway · 30/10/2022 13:47

That’s the thing OP. You never really know anyones backstory so when you make comments like you have on this thread which appear to be deliberately goady just to elicit a reaction you have to realise there are real people behind the screen.

Look i`m sorry.

I can`t imagine the state he must have been in.

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Comefromaway · 30/10/2022 13:47

That’s the thing OP. You never really know anyones backstory so when you make comments like you have on this thread which appear to be deliberately goady just to elicit a reaction you have to realise there are real people behind the screen.

Original poster
thistimeiknowitsforreal · 30/10/2022 13:43

Comefromaway · 30/10/2022 13:34

I’m ignoring.

He was suicidal and on the verge of dropping out of school before he found music so the OPs comments are very inappropriate and deliberately goody.

I am sorry for my comment.

I didn't know the back story.

He sounds like a great and talented lad.

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TheMoops · 30/10/2022 13:37

Comefromaway · 30/10/2022 13:35

And at 18 years old he earnt £600 last week for playing keyboard for a show

Good on him!
The OPs comments were disgusting.

The world would be a far more miserable place without the arts.

Comefromaway · 30/10/2022 13:35

And at 18 years old he earnt £600 last week for playing keyboard for a show

Comefromaway · 30/10/2022 13:34

I’m ignoring.

He was suicidal and on the verge of dropping out of school before he found music so the OPs comments are very inappropriate and deliberately goody.

TheMoops · 30/10/2022 13:32

There must be other things your son could do ?

Why do you disagree with people making their own choices about what to to study? Who are you to dictate what people should be interested in?

As long as he has his hands full he would be alright.

Waft an ignorant comment. You don't know the person you are talking about.

Original poster
thistimeiknowitsforreal · 30/10/2022 13:21

Comefromaway · 29/10/2022 14:40

Without theatre and music my life would not be worth living.

without music my sin would be a drop out and possibly dead or in an institution.

There must be other things your son could do ?

As long as he has his hands full he would be alright.

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TeenDivided · 30/10/2022 13:21

What more vocational offering do you want?
There are loads. These are just off the top of my head:
Plumbing, Bricklaying, construction
Hair & beauty
health & Social care
Animal care, Equine
Agriculture
Business
Computing
Engineering
Motor mechanics
Sports / outdoor pursuits
Uniformed public services
Travel & Tourism
Childcare
Hospitality & Catering

TheMoops · 30/10/2022 13:20

So why not have more vocational offerings ?

Like what?

Original poster
thistimeiknowitsforreal · 30/10/2022 13:16

TheMoops · 30/10/2022 11:02

I agree that all options should be presented to y11s.

Schools have a legal obligation to make sure their students are aware of all available options. It's called The Baker Clause and it's something that Ofsted will check as part of their inspection.

So why not have more vocational offerings ?

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TheMoops · 30/10/2022 11:02

I agree that all options should be presented to y11s.

Schools have a legal obligation to make sure their students are aware of all available options. It's called The Baker Clause and it's something that Ofsted will check as part of their inspection.

DorritLittle · 29/10/2022 20:10

A lot has changed since most of us went to school. In my area barely any schools have a sixth form. The few colleges are mostly exceptionally good.

pointythings · 29/10/2022 20:07

Is that still having a choice Yes/No ?

No, it is removing choice. It is forcing someone to do a course they do not want. Honestly, I despair.

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