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A level results day 2021 support thread

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Mrs08 · 31/07/2021 15:46

Hi 👋
I thought it might be nice to have a support thread for us parents? (Can't see one in further Ed yet??)
It's been such a difficult time for our kids - and for us! - but the end is in sight!
Ds will get an e mail at 8.30am (apparently) and can go into college in person if he needs help/advice.
Good luck everyone!
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Limewine · 20/08/2021 22:26

@Andi2020

Thanks everyone for your help *@MadameMinimes* yes your right he does not have the confidence to challenge it and his parents just say do what is right for ry you. If it was my child I would challenge it.
He should contact his MP.
Andi2020 · 20/08/2021 21:36

Thanks everyone for your help
@MadameMinimes yes your right he does not have the confidence to challenge it and his parents just say do what is right for ry you.
If it was my child I would challenge it.

MadameMinimes · 20/08/2021 21:26

That’s awful. I’m really sorry they are doing that. It’s not legal, but they get away with it because people either don’t know their rights or don’t really know how to challenge this crap.

Andi2020 · 20/08/2021 21:22

We are in Northern Ireland so don't know what an epq is.
Hopefully I get to speak to him about it tomorrow but my dd might want me to stay out of it.
They did tell him he not allow do any other course outside school along with the 2 subjects he doing so they really are trying to make him leave. Life is cruel.
He is too innocent that's the problem

MadameMinimes · 20/08/2021 20:34

What’s not what happened?

They’ve told him that he can no longer continue one of his courses haven’t they? If it’s a linear A Level then that’s not something that they are legally allowed to do.

The reason they aren’t trying to fill up his timetable with epq or something else is because they aren’t trying to secure funding for him this year. They are trying to pressure him to leave. If a school wanted to keep a student that had failed on course, they’d want him to pick up epq or something else to try to make sure they get as much funding as possible. They aren’t doing that because they think that by forcing him down to 2 A Levels he will believe he has no choice but to leave.

Bryonyshcmyony · 20/08/2021 20:18

@MadameMinimes

They aren’t actually allowed to kick him off a course though, presuming we are talking about a linear A Level and not a BTEC. BTECs can’t be passed if you fail any one unit, so he could conceivably have failed one of those at this stage.
That's not what has happened though? And even then they'd want you to try and fill your timetable with something else
MadameMinimes · 20/08/2021 20:08

They aren’t actually allowed to kick him off a course though, presuming we are talking about a linear A Level and not a BTEC. BTECs can’t be passed if you fail any one unit, so he could conceivably have failed one of those at this stage.

Bryonyshcmyony · 20/08/2021 20:02

I'm pretty sure he'd have to be doing something else as well to fill the timetable. A btec/work experience /epq

MadameMinimes · 20/08/2021 20:00

That’s their way of trying to get him to leave without it looking like they’ve illegally excluded him.

Saying that he can’t continue with a course is trying to force him to leave. He should call their bluff and say he’s happy to continue with two and will be sitting a third as a private candidate somewhere else. You will probably find they change their tune.

Bryonyshcmyony · 20/08/2021 19:59

I don't think schools get funding for someone doing just 2 a levels

Andi2020 · 20/08/2021 19:55

School rang him yesterday said he could do 2 of the 3 A level but would advise him to leave and get a job as 2 A level no good.
I totally disagree with this
Lots of Accountancy courses take 1 Alevel and GCSE.
So annoyed school trying to get lower grade students to quit to keep up league tables rather than protecting their education and mental health

Andi2020 · 19/08/2021 17:51

@MadameMinimes the annoying thing is they said at the meeting with him and his parents on Monday you MIGHT get back.
There was nothing said like we will let you know or by a date so he just getting really down not knowing.
Things like this really affect people's mental health after the amount of time they where off with lockdown this is terrible way to treat students and their family.
He can't even apply to other college courses as his chosen subject needs Alevel.

MadameMinimes · 19/08/2021 16:08

If they start at Year 8 then they are covered by the exclusions guidance. Hopefully you are right and they are just trying to give him a wake up call. You’d be surprised how many schools break the law with impunity on this though.

Andi2020 · 19/08/2021 15:35

@singingstones thanks again
@MadameMinimes thanks. It's hard to know if school or college I the name it has
College but it starts at Y8 so I would think it is a school.
I hope it won't come down to this and they where just trying to give him a reality check.
I told my dd to tell him to go in on day back and say nothing if they don't bring it up.
If you try and irritate them it could make it more awkward.

MadameMinimes · 19/08/2021 14:15

Whether it’s illegal depends on whether he is at a school or a college. The rules on exclusions apply in sixth forms attached to schools, but not to colleges that only educate children above compulsory school age. Compulsory school age is still 16, despite the requirement to stay in education or training until 18 now. If it’s a school sixth form, you can definitely challenge it.

stoneysongs · 19/08/2021 13:33

Here you go @Andi2020, same in NI.

It's from this page, which is info about exclusions from the National Autistic Society. I guess if you need to quote the law you'd have to find it on the govt or education authority website.

www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/topics/education/exclusions/northern-ireland/expulsion

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Andi2020 · 19/08/2021 12:50

@Limewine and @singingstones
Thanks so much for this
Do you know where I could find same rules for Northern Ireland

stoneysongs · 19/08/2021 09:03

Same in Wales, not allowed to kick people out for poor performance.

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Limewine · 19/08/2021 07:32

[quote Andi2020]@pistachioicecream was it final exam for you when you say not priority
My dd and her bf go As results in Northern Ireland and both where disappointed getting an A/B in test and she got a C and he got a D and was called into a meeting in school told his results where bad and advised not to return for Alevel
He asked how mark was calculated head said he didn't know told him no way was he getting them grades he had absolutely no background for the D grade
Her bf is in bits, he is really good kid got all A in GCSE last year how is any of this fair.
Others in school are been treated same.
Non priority appeal date here is 17th September but they are back at school 31st August and he doesn't even know if he is enrolled now for final year.
Sorry for interrupt thread
His parents are not helping called him a failure and useless. They went into meeting with him but didn't say much.[/quote]
Think this might be illegal - in England anyway

www.kentadvice.co.uk/peters-blog/news-a-comments/item/1012-expulsion-of-year-12-a-level-pupils-illegal.html

Andi2020 · 18/08/2021 00:28

@pistachioicream luckily my dd was not called to a meeting yet anyway so she ok to return.
Hopefully all works out for your ds.
Does anyone know if CCEA do autumn exams this year

pistachioicecream · 17/08/2021 21:30

That sounds very stressful @Andi2020. My DS was in year 13 so yes, last exams for him.

I hope your DD and her BF manage to sort something out. That does sound very harsh. Good luck.

Andi2020 · 17/08/2021 20:07

@pistachioicecream was it final exam for you when you say not priority
My dd and her bf go As results in Northern Ireland and both where disappointed getting an A/B in test and she got a C and he got a D and was called into a meeting in school told his results where bad and advised not to return for Alevel
He asked how mark was calculated head said he didn't know told him no way was he getting them grades he had absolutely no background for the D grade
Her bf is in bits, he is really good kid got all A in GCSE last year how is any of this fair.
Others in school are been treated same.
Non priority appeal date here is 17th September but they are back at school 31st August and he doesn't even know if he is enrolled now for final year.
Sorry for interrupt thread
His parents are not helping called him a failure and useless. They went into meeting with him but didn't say much.

MaddieElla · 17/08/2021 12:17

Ahh, that's right. Apologies.

pistachioicecream · 17/08/2021 12:08

@MaddieElla - that was the deadline for priority appeals if you needed the grade for University entrance this year.

Ours wouldn't be a priority appeal so the deadline is 3rd September.

@Countrygirl88 - sorry to hear about your university position. That must be very stressful. How does your son or daughter feel about their clearing option?

MaddieElla · 17/08/2021 11:45

I believe the window for appeal is closed now? Midnight yesterday I think.

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