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University applicants from Steiner schools

40 replies

Goldmandra · 12/10/2015 12:13

If a student has attended a Steiner school (or any other whose pupils don't take GCSEs) does this put them at a significant disadvantage when applying to university?

I assumed it would but at least one school website suggests otherwise.

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sharoncarol43 · 30/11/2015 19:51

The only children I know who have attended Steiner schools have had significant SEN, so it is certainly not true either that they don't take children with SEN, or that they only take white children.

It is also true that these children learnt nothing there. But it was partly for that reason the school was chosen, so the children were not put under pressure to perform academically.

As adults these children have no qualifications what so ever, nothing at all. They can't read. They can do manual labour at most, but there is a HUGE amount of competition for jobs that don't require reading! as much as there is for jobs that require first class degrees!

Maybe they wouldn't have got any qualifications from mainstream schools either, who knows. it is certainly true that they enjoyed their school days and were not under any pressure.

SquirrelledAway · 22/10/2015 16:12

The Aberdeen Waldorf kindergarten received a damning report from the Care Inspectorate, and the school has closed "due to financial reasons". Anecdotally, bullying was a major problem at the school.

Aelfwynn · 13/10/2015 13:03
Hmm
Aelfwynn · 13/10/2015 11:52

lol?

I see why you've posted such such improbable things about Steiner schools on the thread (bullying punishment for past lives, exclusion on SEN and ethnicity) if this is where you did your 'research'. These US sites are all alike, with wild claims and conspiracy theories. Some are also rather sinister and will target those in the Waldorf community. Not pleasant at all.

Yes, I'm sure there are quotes from Steiner. This is what Steiner education is based on after all. Obviously, as he died almost a century ago, a lot of his comments are outmoded and unacceptable in a modern Steiner setting in the UK.

LisbethSalandersLaptop · 13/10/2015 11:43

lol oh oh I don't want to read anything that quotes Steiner!!

Aelfwynn · 13/10/2015 11:40

A link to a notorious anti Waldorf US website. I'd rather not read that sort of thing thank you

LisbethSalandersLaptop · 13/10/2015 11:33

thewaldorfreview.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/why-waldorf-bullies.html

Aelfwynn · 13/10/2015 11:30

whatever, you don't have to, I know that it happened.

Bullying being allowed to continue because it was punishment for sins in a past life. Hmm

UnDeuxCrois · 13/10/2015 11:28

I have close relatives who went to a Steiner school, and also had a university classmate who went there.

They were all quite dismissive of the education they received there and felt it prepared them poorly for further education and life outside the Steiner community.

On the other hand, my relative who has a very significant disability thrived at his Steiner school.

LisbethSalandersLaptop · 13/10/2015 11:28

whatever, you don't have to, I know that it happened.

Aelfwynn · 13/10/2015 11:27

I don't believe a word of it, frankly.

LisbethSalandersLaptop · 13/10/2015 11:26

lol OK a factual anecdote Grin

Aelfwynn · 13/10/2015 11:24

I just told you, that is what happened to my friend's children. That is a fact.

No, that is anecdote.

Aelfwynn · 13/10/2015 11:21

Of course there are negatives. It's not an education that suits everybody, that's why it needs to be well researched and schools in questions visited to be sure that the right choice is made for the child

LisbethSalandersLaptop · 13/10/2015 11:20

I just told you, that is what happened to my friend's children. That is a fact.
And no offence, but I seriously doubt you know everything that goes on in every Steiner school in the UK do you?

Aelfwynn · 13/10/2015 11:18

No Steiner school in the UK has such a viewpoint about bullying being punishment for sins in a past life. Nor do they exclude people with SEN or for their ethnicity or colour of their skin. Do you realise how crazy those accusations sound. It's utter nonsense.

Can you back anything up with facts?

LisbethSalandersLaptop · 13/10/2015 11:12

" many Steiner teachers think that bullying is a punishment for sins in a past life, and as such do not address it "

well that was the experience of some children I know that attended one of these places near London. The teachers thought it was their own fault and did nothing to stop it. when Steiner disciples just try to rubbish anything negative about this organisation, it doesn't reflect well on it.

Aelfwynn · 13/10/2015 11:07

Lisbeth

I was addressing the OP, obviously, suggesting she research as she knows so little about Steiner education, and to be considering it to GCSE level.

Steiner schools don't have anyone with 'additional needs' nor do they have racial minorities.
In addition many Steiner teachers think that bullying is a punishment for sins in a past life, and as such do not address it.

You coming out with nonsense like this, Lisbeth, shows your knowledge is clearly lacking, or you're just being plain misleading.

LisbethSalandersLaptop · 13/10/2015 10:14

because frankly, that kind of attitude doesn't do Steiner any favours

LisbethSalandersLaptop · 13/10/2015 10:13

" Also do a bit more research."

I have and I do not like what I see, hear and read. Are you trying to suggest I am not entitled to an opinion?

minmooch · 12/10/2015 19:19

My nephews and nieces have all been through the Steiner system. They have all achieved exceptionally high GCSEs and A levels and those old enough have been to excellent unis. They are well adjusted delightful kids. They are very similar to their cousins who have been through private and state schools.

Goldmandra · 12/10/2015 18:53

You were quite convinced earlier by Lisbeth's comments, up thread, which were not correct, so I'd look beyond asking for opinion.

I haven't said I am convinced by anything. I have said I am now more wary. I also volunteered that I have a lot to learn.

I have now done more than read the opinion on MN and will continue to do so. I will visit any school I consider for my DD armed with questions and, in the case of any Steiner school, some of those questions may arise from concerns raised by MNers.

There really is no need to be so patronising.

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Aelfwynn · 12/10/2015 18:37

You certainly need to if your only understanding of Steiner is the promotion of play for younger children. You were quite convinced earlier by Lisbeth's comments, up thread, which were not correct, so I'd look beyond asking for opinion. E.g. Try a book. Newspaper articles. Find out what modern Steiner education is all about.

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