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If your kids do piano, please could you answer me a couple of questions about them.

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tortoiseshell · 24/09/2008 10:16

I teach piano, and my kids do piano as well. I'd just like to ask some seemingly random questions, will explain why later! I have a theory that I'd like to prove...

  1. Is your child good at any sport?
  2. If so, which sports?
  3. Do they seem a co-ordinated child or an un-co-ordinated child?
  4. On the piano, did they find it easy or hard to put hands together - particularly when playing something like a scale where the hands are going in the same direction?
  5. Do they find the piano 'easy' or do they have to work hard to sort the notes out.
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karise · 14/11/2008 10:23

Oops,
forgot to say
DD is 6 (young year2)

karise · 14/11/2008 10:21

Very, very interesting!
I'm a violin teacher & have a similar theory!
There seems to be a 'big picture' type of co-ordination & an'intricacies' type. Could I add the question that if a child is good at piano & bad at sport, what are they like at tasks such as needlework?
Also DD has done Tumble tots etc. & we have found when she has done lots of gym she is generally more co-ordinated & less likely to fall over. When she hasn't been for a few months she seems all arms & legs & has accidents!
However, she would always be hopeless at football & the like
She's only been having piano lessons since September but seems to be doing well. Done swapping between hands which she has mastered pretty easily but not contrary motion yet although can play hot cross buns both hands together!

beautifulgirls · 02/11/2008 21:24

I love this theory too - answering for me (grade 8 piano):

  1. Is your child good at any sport? Not great at most sports

  2. If so, which sports? Did do well at swimming

  3. Do they seem a co-ordinated child or an un-co-ordinated child? Not too bad, but not the most co-ordinated either

  4. On the piano, did they find it easy or hard to put hands together - particularly when playing something like a scale where the hands are going in the same direction? Initially found it very hard, but once I got the idea there was no looking back

  5. Do they find the piano 'easy' or do they have to work hard to sort the notes out. Generally I found it quite easy to play.

roisin · 29/10/2008 18:11

I like your theory.
I am not well co-ordinated or sporty and nor is ds2. We are both pianists.

Katisha · 29/10/2008 18:02

But to throw a spanner in the works, DH is an organist, and v sporty with stuff like squash and fencing. And DS1 (9) is the same (although football and piano/cello in his case.)
I, on the other hand, would fit your theory.

Bink · 29/10/2008 17:57

I like your theory!

Answers in case you are still tabulating (answering for both ds (9, done Gr1 heading for Gr2) and dd (just 8, no grades yet)):

  1. Is your child good at any sport?

DS: nope DD: not bad, can run fast, does good ballet (counts?)

  1. If so, which sports?
  • see above -
  1. Do they seem a co-ordinated child or an un-co-ordinated child?

DS: un-co, very (like a wheelie bag with a wheel missing) DD: very neatly co

  1. On the piano, did they find it easy or hard to put hands together - particularly when playing something like a scale where the hands are going in the same direction?

DS: no big difficulty DD: has to concentrate very hard (but she's not really into two-handed playing much yet)

  1. Do they find the piano 'easy' or do they have to work hard to sort the notes out.

DS: when he can be bothered he doesn't have to think, it just happens DD: concentrates hard

EachPeachPearMum · 14/10/2008 21:16

V interesting theory- 1 piece of anecdotal evidence.
My mother is completely unco-ordinated- sometimes wonder how she manages to walk
Was very clumsy as a child, terrible at all sports.
She was grade 8 piano and organ by age 16, and became a music teacher
She still plays organ, which she much prefers to piano or other instruments.

christywhisty · 30/09/2008 16:20

DS

  1. Is your child good at any sport? Not particularly, fairly heavy on his feet
  2. If so, which sports? Swimming, natural breaststroker
  3. Do they seem a co-ordinated child or an un-co-ordinated child? Has had some coordination problems but gross motor small motor fine
  4. On the piano, did they find it easy or hard to put hands together - particularly when playing something like a scale where the hands are going in the same direction?

no problems
5) Do they find the piano 'easy' or do they have to work hard to sort the notes out.

Only problem with the piano was reading the music. He is dyslexic and although could name the notes had problems following music fast enough to play it smoothly so always learnt by memory/ear.

Have a theory that learning the piano and swimming from a young age are good for dyslexia.

DD

  1. Is your child good at any sport? not particularly
  2. If so, which sports? ok at swimming and got to silver in gymnastics before giving up
  3. Do they seem a co-ordinated child or an un-co-ordinated child? Left handed and sometimes a bit clumsy, has really bad handwriting
  4. On the piano, did they find it easy or hard to put hands together - particularly when playing something like a scale where the hands are going in the same direction?

no problems

3littlefrogs · 30/09/2008 10:40

Dc are

Good at all sports

Netball, swimming, tennis, rounders, running, cycling.

co-ordinated.

easy - with practice

Can read music quite well.

(some of my nephews and nieces are dyslexic/dyspraxic they struggle/give up with all of the above).

JaneLumley · 30/09/2008 10:31

DD is eight, plays piano. DS plays cello and harp - finds the latter v. easy. Dd can put hands together but is sometimes frustrated by slowness of hands compared with clear idea of what should happen in her mind. Both my children SUCK at sports. All sports. But dd likes netball.

b1uesky · 30/09/2008 10:15
  1. Is your child good at any sport? I think just above average but nothing special.

  2. If so, which sports? quite good at gymnastic and swimming.

  3. Do they seem a co-ordinated child or an un-co-ordinated child? a very co-ordinated child, she is 6 and can draw beautifully.

  4. On the piano, did they find it easy or hard to put hands together - particularly when playing something like a scale where the hands are going in the same direction?

dd find sacles easy, she can learn a new scale after playing it a few times with both hands together.

  1. Do they find the piano 'easy' or do they have to work hard to sort the notes out.

I think dd do find the piano easy, she has achieved good results without putting in much effort. If I?m lucky she will practice 30 minutes a day without messing around.

tortoiseshell · 25/09/2008 15:57

Thanks for all your responses! Keep them coming!

I've phrased the last couple of questions quite badly - it's really when they start learning that I'm most interested in - when they start doing their first pieces hands together - rather than later on and should hopefully have got over the 'working the notes out' stage.

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islandofsodor · 25/09/2008 12:46
  1. NO, unless you count dance.
  2. See above
  3. Quite co-ordinated in terms of dance and rhythm and able to beat time (simple 3/4 4/4 time. However when we watched her at a sports camp obstace thingy she was hopeless.
  4. She's only 6 so is still at hands separate stage (use PIano Time Pauline Hall)
  5. Semes to find it failry easy,m I have to stop her rushing to o far ahead in the book too soon. Reads music well.
morningglory · 25/09/2008 12:30

My son doesn't play piano, but I will answer using my brother (when he was young) as he was an international competition award winning pianist.

  1. Is your child good at any sport? - no
  2. If so, which sports?
  3. Do they seem a co-ordinated child or an un-co-ordinated child? - not particularly coordinated, but very good at detail oriented tasks (i.e., fine motor skills)
  4. On the piano, did they find it easy or hard to put hands together - particularly when playing something like a scale where the hands are going in the same direction? - very easy
  5. Do they find the piano 'easy' or do they have to work hard to sort the notes out. - easy peasy. Never seemed to have to work very hard,
Beetroot · 25/09/2008 12:27

They seem to be good sat coordinateing hands. start playing two habnds together on most peices as soon as they can

Beetroot · 25/09/2008 12:26
  1. Is your child good at any sport? - yes
  2. If so, which sports? in all teams at school - mainly ball sports though
  3. Do they seem a co-ordinated child or an un-co-ordinated child? - co-ordinated
  4. On the piano, did they find it easy or hard to put hands together - particularly when playing something like a scale where the hands are going in the same direction? - not sure about htis -
  5. Do they find the piano 'easy' or do they have to work hard to sort the notes out. - they know the notes - don't have to wqork put where they are
BalloonSlayer · 25/09/2008 12:23

Haven't read your theory yet, so just answering the questions about DS1

Good at any sport. No
Which n/a
Un-co-ordinated child
Found it easy to put hands together
I think finds it easy but says he doesn't want to go any more. BUT is very good at maths and has had no trouble working out what the notes are when it comes to reading the music

SaintRiven · 25/09/2008 11:48
  1. Is your child good at any sport? - average I think.
  2. If so, which sports?
  3. Do they seem a co-ordinated child or an un-co-ordinated child? - Co-ordinated.
  4. On the piano, did they find it easy or hard to put hands together - particularly when playing something like a scale where the hands are going in the same direction? - finds it easy
  5. Do they find the piano 'easy' or do they have to work hard to sort the notes out. - finds it easy.

On the other hand, I wasgreat at sports and having lots of trouble learning piano and making left and right hands do different things.

tortoiseshell · 25/09/2008 11:45

see above for the theory!

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mummy197 · 25/09/2008 11:44
  1. Is your child good at any sport? very average - swims well, zero interest / skill if a ball is involved
  2. If so, which sports?
  3. Do they seem a co-ordinated child or an un-co-ordinated child? very average
  4. On the piano, did they find it easy or hard to put hands together - particularly when playing something like a scale where the hands are going in the same direction? finds this easy
  5. Do they find the piano 'easy' or do they have to work hard to sort the notes - very musical ear so plays well from memory, can self correct both hands, as a result learning to read music is a bit of a drag

whats the theory?

tortoiseshell · 25/09/2008 11:41

(This isn't a theory on how musical the child is btw - it's more to do with the mechanics of playing specifically the piano).

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tortoiseshell · 25/09/2008 11:40

Ok, my theory is;

people's brains naturally make their hands do the mirror image of each other - so on the piano it is much easier to do contrary motion, with thumbs together, 1st finger together, 2nd finger together etc. To get hands together, you actually need to break that connection, so that actually the less co-ordination you have, the easier you find the piano.

In sports such as tennis/cricket your whole body is involved in ONE fluid motion, so you need co-ordination. My theory is that the people who find piano (and to a MUCH greater extent the organ) easy to put things together are the least co-ordinated people. And although people say 'you need so much co-ordination to play the piano/organ' the actual truth is that the less you have the better!

What do you think? It's certainly true of my pupils. And it's definitely true that most organists are unco-ordinated away from the instrument!!! Definitely true of me. I absolutely couldn't do anything like hockey or the like, swimming I was ok at, but totally rubbish at throwing ropes when we were doing lifesaving etc.

And of my pupils, the ones who find it hardest to put hands together are the sporty ones.

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Walkthedinosaur · 25/09/2008 11:39

1 & 2 - No hates all sport
3) Uncordinated - dyspraxic
4) Finds it difficult but is working at it
5)Although actually finds sorting the notes out easier than reading.

singersgirl · 25/09/2008 11:39

DS2, 7 in August:

  1. No. 2)N/A 3)Quite uncoordinated. Has good balance but poor handwriting. 4)I suspect we're too early in his piano playing career to tell, but he doesn't find it particularly easy to put 2 hands together. Having said that, he's much better than I though he would be and plays very feelingly. 5)He plays by ear, and is taking a long time to learn to read the music because he doesn't need to yet. So he learns everything off by heart by watching me or his teacher play it once or twice. He knows what the notes are on the piano, but is not reading music fluently. He was a very early and fluent reader generally, so I know he could read the music if he could be bothered, but he is very much a 'path of least resistance' child.
mehgalegs · 25/09/2008 11:38

DS1 also plays cello very well. I am of him