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For those of you who pay for private music tuition, do you think this is a reasonable cancellation policy?

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GColdtimer · 02/09/2008 14:25

DD is a guitar teacher. His cancellation policy currently states 7 days notice for cancellation. However, it is fraught with angst and confusion because people have all sort of reasons and excuses for cancelling with or without noitce and he always ends up in a discussion with people about whether 4 days notice is enough for one thing or another and will he give them a replacement slot.

I have suggested that he changes his policy to say that all cancellations must be paid for but if he manages to rebook the slot, regardless of the notice period he will offer a replacement. If he cannot rebook the slot, then it has be be paid for.

For those of you who pay for private tuition - do you think that is reasonable? I obviously do .

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Saggarmakersbottomknocker · 02/09/2008 22:58

dd's guitar teacher has a 24 hour notice policy. It's 1 - 1 and we pay weekly.

smartiejake · 02/09/2008 22:57

We pay in batches of 5 or 10 lessons. When we book the set of lessons we need to say if there are any weeks within that time where we might be on holiday or unable to attend and they will move the lessons forward.

Jux · 02/09/2008 22:52

No he doesn't always fill the space, but he can often juggle pupils around to accommodate the cancellor iyswim; that way he doesn't lose the money.

He gigs as well, which is really the main income, but teaching is the reliable bit.

When I had private violin lessons in my long lost youth we had to pay for the full term, though, and if I missed a lesson it was paid for already - no refunds.

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GColdtimer · 02/09/2008 19:59

Yes, we do I think. They didn't have any vacancies when DH first started up and now he has his own business established he hasn't looked into it again. It could be though because to be honest the admin involved in private tuition for the amount of hours is does is fairly substantial.

Thanks

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MrsWeasley · 02/09/2008 19:32

twofalls: Does your area have a music department at the council?

We have a Music Co-operative and pupils apply through them and they chase the money and set the policies etc. It takes the pressure out of having to deal with the money etc.

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GColdtimer · 02/09/2008 15:21

Thank you, it does.

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MrsWeasley · 02/09/2008 15:12

My DS plays guitar and his tutor states half term notice required for cancellation of lessons.

If lesson missed due to child not being there (holiday or sick, notschool trips) then payment is still required, if tutor is away and misses a lesson he makes it up at another time.

This seems to be standard practice in our area.
HTH

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GColdtimer · 02/09/2008 15:06

That's an interesting point tortoishell, whilst it is not our sole source of revenue as I work p/t (or at least I do when not MNing ) he does bring in half our income and so he does need to earn a certain amount. I am also self employed so no guaranteed income here either.

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tortoiseshell · 02/09/2008 15:03

(Am not a guitar teacher btw, piano, and isn't sole source of income for family , as dh brings home main income, so can afford to be flexible).

tortoiseshell · 02/09/2008 15:02

I'm a bit lenient on this - I always charge at the end of the term, and as I teach at home, if someone can't make it I just have an extra cup of tea!

My reason for this is it is simplest, and also if I'm flexible about people cancelling it means that if my kids are ill (which they're normally not!), my pupils (or rather their parents) are flexible too!

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GColdtimer · 02/09/2008 15:01

Also, is teaching his only source of revenue or does he do other things to earn money so lack of attendance isn't that big a deal?

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GColdtimer · 02/09/2008 14:59

I know, it was a bit extreme!

Jux, does he always manage to fill the slot within 24 hours and isn't the admin a bit of an nightmare? Just out of interest do you think my proposal is unreasonable then - ie, if it gets rebooked you have a replacement, if it doesn't then you pay?

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Jux · 02/09/2008 14:56

DH has been teaching guitar for over 30 years. His cancellation policy is 24 hours - that gives him time to fill the spot, or rearrange other things etc. Less than that, full payment is expected. I think a week's notice is really a bit much to expect.

Guadalupe · 02/09/2008 14:56

12?? Bloody hell. I do think he's mad but perhaps people don't tend to cancel.

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GColdtimer · 02/09/2008 14:54

Guadalupe, DH used to only ask for that but it was becoming unmanageable. One week he had 12 cancellations - I was on maternity leave so we were living on jacket potatoes that week .

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Guadalupe · 02/09/2008 14:48

Ds's guitar teacher only requires 24 hours notice but I think this is exceptionally reasonable. I expected to pay termly regardless of cancelling like most other lessons.

cornsilk · 02/09/2008 14:46

Two falls ours is group tuition.

Katw3kitts · 02/09/2008 14:41

I'm talking about DD (11) school music lessons. They are 1 on 1.

nailpolish · 02/09/2008 14:41

in our case its one teacher to two children

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GColdtimer · 02/09/2008 14:39

Are all these "if you miss one its tough" for one to one lessons or group? I only ask because you obviously loose a lot more money if its one to one because its more expensive than if you share the lesson.

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nailpolish · 02/09/2008 14:38

we pay at the start of each school term and if we miss it, no money back. Fine with me.

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GColdtimer · 02/09/2008 14:38

mmm, I think he needs a contract. He does take block bookings of 10 and offers a discount for the block booking, but people still try to change things around and the admin is a nightmare. He also teaches a lot of adults who book anywhere between 1 and 10 at a time.

This reaction is encouraging

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coppertop · 02/09/2008 14:35

Ours has to be paid at the beginning of each half-term. If you miss a lesson then it's tough luck basically. The only exception is when it's the teacher who has to cancel the lesson, in which case you get the money from that lesson deducted from the following half-term's bill.

Your suggested policy sounds more than reasonable.

Katw3kitts · 02/09/2008 14:32

I think he is being more than reasonable.

Your suggestion is good.

We also have to give a terms notice. Any missed by us are just 'lost' any cancelled by the teacher are rearranged.

Its all written down and agreed in the contract we sign each term.

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