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Spring / Summer 2026 music thread

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northerngoldilocks · 12/03/2026 16:36

Time for a new thread as the old one is filling up and think we can claim its spring now!

Come and talk about music lessons, choosing instruments, exams, auditions, specialist schools, orchestras or whatever other music activities are going on. Everyone is welcome, from those with total beginners to those whose children are studying music at advanced levels. Ask for advice or share successes or struggles.

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Theoneiwantedwastaken · 07/05/2026 10:46

Still waiting on the RCS juniors email. Fingers crossed

TheTurn0fTheScrew · 07/05/2026 09:27

Hey @Charlottesweb82 - congratulations on the JRNCM place (and to you to @MusicallyMe!).

I've sent you a (somewhat garbled) DM under a different user name (technology is not my friend this morning) about our experience with JRNCM busaries. Do DM any questions and I'll try to make more sense next time.

MusicallyMe · 07/05/2026 07:51

Charlottesweb82 · 06/05/2026 23:13

Hope you’ve heard back regarding JRNCM for DC. My DS, age 10, had his offer today for piano. He’s absolutely overjoyed and we’re so excited he’ll be joining similar minded kids. Does anyone know what the criteria / threshold for bursary awards is at JRNCM? Me and DH are what I’d describe as middle income but the fees for JRNCM are still material to us.

Congratulations to you son! Yes indeed, my daughter was also offered a place, Viola (1st study) and Piano (2nd study), i‘m so happy for her, now the logistics of trying to get her there every Saturday 🤦🏽‍♀️

horseymum · 07/05/2026 07:07

@Charlottesweb82 congratulations on the place! He must be excited. At our JD you just tick any protected characteristics plus looked after/ accommodated, etc, how much you will have to pay to travel, and income band and they look each year at the pot of money. Some of the bursaries are for specific instruments. You don't know until just before starting. Sorry, not much help but I would budget on not getting anything, then if you get a bit, it's a bonus.

Charlottesweb82 · 06/05/2026 23:13

MusicallyMe · 14/04/2026 09:01

Sorry to jump on this thread, but my DC auditioned for junior RNCM yesterday, does anyone have any experience of when we would find out?

Hope you’ve heard back regarding JRNCM for DC. My DS, age 10, had his offer today for piano. He’s absolutely overjoyed and we’re so excited he’ll be joining similar minded kids. Does anyone know what the criteria / threshold for bursary awards is at JRNCM? Me and DH are what I’d describe as middle income but the fees for JRNCM are still material to us.

678socks · 05/05/2026 23:39

@MockCroc thank you. Also an overthinker here. Did you read anything about this issue with singers wearing ear plugs (as opposed to very expensive in ear monitors, which I have seen vocalists in bands wear). The issue we have is protection against a loud piano in a small room whilst singing (in a choir)…. Slightly niche 😂
Separately, if this issue cannot be resolved and given the readings were so high, who would say ‘no more choir, hearing is more important..’??

MockCroc · 05/05/2026 14:28

My children have earasers, which I bought after doing quite a lot of research (overthinker over here):

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They would prefer loops however because they are what "everyone else has"...

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StuntNun · 03/05/2026 21:19

@achangeofnameisasgoodasarestits noticeably harder to learn as an adult but it’s partly because your learning ability is “rusty” and it will get easier the more you do it. Forgetting is part of the process of learning so go easy on yourself as you get to grips with your scales.

Well done on your first piano lesson @QueenMabby what an exciting journey you have in front of you.

@678sockscheck the way she is putting the ear plugs in. It’s best if you pull up and back on the helix to get a good fit when putting ear plugs in so that they fit correctly.

678socks · 02/05/2026 10:05

Thank you, I measured it (admittedly using a phone meter) was up to 104dB at times…
Apparently (according to the internet) you can’t use normal earplugs when singing as the occlusion possibly causes tinnitus. Have contacted the musician hearing people to see what they suggest.
Will look at pacato too. Loop engage 2 works really well for orchestra concerts when they have to wear them.

northerngoldilocks · 02/05/2026 10:00

Loops have different sizes and some kids versions- would changing the size help?

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horseymum · 02/05/2026 09:27

They are pacato, I was close!

horseymum · 02/05/2026 09:07

I am very sensitive to noise and play in an orchestra, I rarely need my ear plugs, unless an augmented brass section is in full flood ( we try to have good positioning to avoid the worst affects), or I'm at a school concert with multiple pipes and drums. I don't think a piano would usually adversely affect hearing but obviously everyone's tolerance and sensitivity is different. I think the earplugs we have are paciti but I'll check.

678socks · 01/05/2026 21:31

Hearing protection for singers….our choir is in an echoing room with the piano back facing the choir. Nothing can be done about either but the noise level is too high for (particularly) a child’s hearing. Has anyone found any good in ear protection for singers? The loop ear plugs seem to move….
Don’t want to take her out but will have to if we can’t find a solution, just don’t think it is worth the risk.

Ubertomusic · 01/05/2026 19:54

Thank you for your thoughts! It's mainly clashes I'm thinking about and the time/effort required. We have one group I really like as it's mixed age and the conductor likes to challenge them, DD plays third or second at best and says it's not easy. I tend to go for harder stuff but this one is a very long commute so I was just thinking whether it's worth it if she plays in lots of other weekly groups.

horseymum · 01/05/2026 19:22

Being leader of orchestra or just principal in any section is really good experience, as they need to develop the confidence not just to follow someone else. However, playing with other players who are better than you also brings you on so definitely recommend a mixture over as said before. My younger one is in one orchestra where most are probably above her, one where she is mid pack, and one where she's near the top in terms of ability/ experience. All different things gained from each. In terms of music difficulty, I prefer playing stuff which stretches me as it makes me practice! Although this term's is easy and my note accuracy rate has shot up dramatically but my practice has gone down!

thirdfiddle · 01/05/2026 19:12

Ubertomusic · 01/05/2026 17:05

A bit of a random question: if you had to choose between an orchestra/ensemble where you would sit at the third desk and work really hard due to the advanced rep and an orchestra where you would play first/leader as the pieces are easier, what would you prefer? Assuming both are enjoyable, but what do you think would be better from an educational point of view?

I'd aim for balance of experience over time. You want some of each.

And it depends what the orchestras are, what they're playing, who they're working with. Some things I know DD would never say no to. But if it's for example lead the junior orchestra vs move up to the senior orchestra a year earlier, and they have plenty of years to go with the organisation - leading something is really good experience and the opportunity doesn't come up all the time.

Ubertomusic · 01/05/2026 17:05

A bit of a random question: if you had to choose between an orchestra/ensemble where you would sit at the third desk and work really hard due to the advanced rep and an orchestra where you would play first/leader as the pieces are easier, what would you prefer? Assuming both are enjoyable, but what do you think would be better from an educational point of view?

QueenMabby · 30/04/2026 10:07

@achangeofnameisasgoodasarest- good luck with the scales! I had my first ever piano lesson last week and I can’t get my left hand and right hand doing different things at the same time! It was both hilarious and VERY frustrating.

In dd music news we’ve had an exam switch around with g8 cello now happening this summer and g8 piano happening at Christmas. She has an opportunity to rehearse with a professional orchestra in a couple of weeks which she’s excited about and there’s a small sixth form musical happening in July for which she has a good part. Keeping busy!

achangeofnameisasgoodasarest · 30/04/2026 09:16

@Compsearch this is good to know. I did English Lit (joint with another subject) at the 'other place' and I don't read lit crit for fun either. I am in awe that you also had time to rehearse though.

I think if DD didn't do music she might be sad because she also likes the lessons and contact time for music - and she can read Jude the Obscure for fun in her spare time - she has a very odd idea of fun though. We will see - she's got an Oxford trip with school coming up and will see what that yields in terms of her interest.

She's got a busy term, again, with her mocks clashing with her bassoon diploma. She's also switched singing teacher post Grade 8, which was awkward but necessary and the new one seems a much better fit for what she wants.

Meanwhile in Grade 3 euphonium land I have just created a 'scales cup' and am wondering why my brain doesn't work as fast as it did when I was a teen - I swear I forget them as often as I learn them, but I am determined to do this!

herbaceous · 29/04/2026 17:25

Thank you all. Lots of very useful perspectives and info!

Compsearch · 29/04/2026 16:50

I did English lit and certainly did not read lit crit for fun! A big bonus from my perspective was no compulsory lectures, so I could read eg all night long and spend all day in rehearsals. No idea how I did it tbh, especially as I didn’t like coffee at the time! Music has more contact time, at least in first year.

It is definitely possible in theory to swap, but it’s at the discretion of the DoS at the relevant college and I don’t think they look kindly on eg people getting in to do Anglo Saxon Norse and Celtic and wanting to swap to eg English or Law or something adjacent but obviously more competitive.

But I know people who swapped from law to Natsci, Natsci to music, languages to theology, English to History of Art - it’s fairly common as (contrary to what they say about needing to be passionate about your subject) in reality most undergrads have lots of interests and talents.

I also know several people who did a masters in a different discipline to undergrad - a handful who did English with me did HoA masters and one did a PhD in HoA, and a friend did History undergrad and an Mphil in history of Russian music that was taught in music faculty. There is a lot of scope for breadth.

Music acceptance is about 50% so it is one of the easier ones (relatively speaking) and you certainly don’t have to ace every aspect of the entrance tests (a friend is Director of Music at one of the colleges mentioned recently).

herbaceous · 29/04/2026 12:49

I suspect people who do English Lit at Cambridge probably read lit crit for fun! Or at least pretend they do...

DS doesn't really read voraciously. Or indeed not much extra at all, which is why I don't think he'd get in. He's generally too busy doing music stuff!

I'm sure he'll come round - he's going to a music open day at Cambridge in July - but at the moment if I try and discuss it I get The Face of Doom.

achangeofnameisasgoodasarest · 29/04/2026 12:46

@herbaceous - yes, she's similar, but I think the harmony entrance test is compulsory at most colleges! Not really sure what english lit extra curricular looks like - I mean DD reads voraciously but doesn't really read lit crit for fun or anything. Who does?!

herbaceous · 29/04/2026 12:42

He seems less keen on the technical aspects - decoding harmony etc - and more keen on the historical context stuff, and performance. He also loves English Lit!

So perhaps in an ideal world would go to Cambs to do English, but as a choral scholar. However, I don't think he'd get in with English, as it's uber-competitive and while he's good, he's not THAT good, and doesn't have all the super-curricular stuff.

achangeofnameisasgoodasarest · 29/04/2026 12:31

@herbaceous it's tricky isn't it - DD still vacillating over Music/Eng Lit (and I should stress she is good at Eng Lit, and keen). Loves music too. Suspect your DS will absolutely walk the entrance tests for music, but DD is worried her chorale harmonies won't be up to scratch !

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