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Autumn / Winter 2025 Music

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northerngoldilocks · 31/08/2025 12:39

Time for a new thread in time for the new school term!

Come and talk about music lessons, choosing instruments, exams, auditions, specialist schools, orchestras or whatever other music activities are going on. Everyone is welcome, from those with total beginners to those whose children are studying music at advanced levels. Ask for advice or share successes or struggles.

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achangeofnameisasgoodasarest · 08/09/2025 11:53

@Comefromaway that must be frustrating - brilliant he's doing so well though. Given what he wants to do it sounds like he's set up to get plenty of work, guess the only problem would come if he changed his mind and wanted another type of job where the actual having of a degree matters to tick a box...and it feels like they should get a bit of paper for all that debt.

But maybe I'm just old fashioned!

@herbaceous ESO have let us pay in stages. DD2 is keen and the rep looks good - though agree it is expensive.

I've heard almost nothing from her since she's been back at school except that she's first bassoon in Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra, and quite scared. Also seems to be in two wind quintets. I otherwise got a photo of some nachos she'd been making that looked a bit burnt.

Oh, and she appeared on the school insta in a skirt so short that other parents sent me texts about it. And no blazer, on the day on which she was receiving an honorary scholarship for academics so presumably had to be visible in assembly. Not sure that bid for deputy head girl or woodwind head she's planning next year will be very well received unless she changes her clothing choices.

She's back on Friday for LSSO so at least I'll get to hear from her then if she can bear to be at home for more than five minutes..

northerngoldilocks · 08/09/2025 11:50

Ah - my reference was for the English Symphony Orchestra youth course in Bromsgrove rather than English Schools Orchestra. Its a 2 day non residential option.

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Comefromaway · 08/09/2025 11:18

I know but it is SO frustrating. The resit was because he spent three weeks in Paris over Easter just before assessment deadlines working on a show over there. He ended up with a recital, a presentation and an essay all due on the same day so the essay never got handed in.

herbaceous · 08/09/2025 11:15

I'm still dithering about the ESO residential course. DS wants to go, but isn't totally mad on it, and it's v expensive. And he's really only needed to bump up the numbers of horns in the Mahler.

However, it would be an amazing experience, and some of his other orchestral experiences aren't now going to happen because he's in the Rodolfus choir!

Choices... choices...

@Comefromaway - sounds like your DS has found his groove. I think once you're 'in' with the pit band crew, you're set for life! Easy to see why graduating has fallen down his priority list.

northerngoldilocks · 08/09/2025 10:17

@Comefromaway that all sounds like its going brilliantly for him on the playing side, and i guess it doesn't really matter if he graduates or not in terms of immediate career but can see why you'd want him to graduate too.

In unrelated discussions, i've just been sent the ESO email this weekend about their October courses booking now, so anyone interested in those might want to take a look. We've never done them as they're outside London, but know others on this thread have and they're non residential so suitable for younger kids.

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Comefromaway · 08/09/2025 10:14

We are definitely coming to the end of the student journey. After a slight blip of a little (written) resit, ds is about to start his final year of conservtoire.

However, at this point I am convinced that he is not going to graduate. I want him to, but he isn't bothered at all. He is thinking that he doesn't want to do an MA after all and just go straight into working, which to be fair, is already happening.

He is currently working on a show about to open in London and has been offered a week depping on a national tour. Then there is 2 months of panto. A possibility of some sound design work next year too.

Dh and I will try and convince him to graduate but he saw conservatoire as a means to an end (and he hates the written parts of the course).

Londonmummy66 · 05/09/2025 16:18

@northerngoldilocks - the festival actually came first - its well worth looking at if you can get to Wimbledon as they have some amazing performers - we heard Ben Grosvenor one year. I'm not sure what happened to the orchestra - there is a thing to fill in on the website to express interest.

northerngoldilocks · 05/09/2025 16:05

As far as I can tell Maryatt has evolved to be a festival where they run a series of performances rather than a coaching course now.

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BBLY · 05/09/2025 16:03

Thank you so much @Londonmummy66and @northerngoldilocks, so helpful! I’ll pass on the info to him and see which one he would like to audition. This is the first year he’s able to commit to an orchestra all year round, as he was a chorister and couldn’t get involved in any Christmas and Easter courses.

Londonmummy66 · 05/09/2025 15:55

@BBLY _ I had a cellist who did LSSO - standard was roughly Grade 8 but is lower for violas. Worth a try as the focus is on orchestral ability - her auditions included being conducted through the excerpts.

LPO has a Junior artists scheme but the standard is very very high.

Thames youth orchestra is brilliant if you are able to get to Kingston for rehearsals - both of mine were invited to bump for their tours and the younger one then stayed on as principal of her niche instrument and playing violin/viola when that wasn't needed and had a ball. They tour every summer - usually northern Spain departing in the afternoon of GCSE results day.

Mine also did Maryatt Players in WImbledon - not sure if that is still going. It was a strings only orchestra at I think Easter and had some really inspiring coaches/conductors.

northerngoldilocks · 05/09/2025 13:45

Also - you could sign him up for NYO inspire if you haven't already?

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northerngoldilocks · 05/09/2025 13:44

At 14 there are quite a lot of options.

LSSO is london schools symphony orchestra - run by Guildhall Young Artists / CYM from an admin perspective but it isn't part of their weekly activities. It just opened for applications and auditions will be Nov / Dec I think. You have to be 14 for it and for strings they say gr 7/8 but I think it will just depend on the audition standard overall. No experience as my string player isn't old enough to audition yet and my woodwind player is but is sticking with LYWB as the standard for flutes is terrifying!

NYSO has different orchestras but runs as residential - for camerata its Easter and Aug and it doesn't meet in London - its in Stamford School - and auditions close 30 Sept (video)

The only LSO i know is London Symphony Orchestra but there is London Youth Strings Orchestra (LYSO) so perhaps thats the one? It looks like they do a course in February and the ones below gr 8 don't have an audition. They're not residential and i've been wondering if it could be a possibility for my gr 7+ violin player too, although its quite a distance from us.

Depending on where you are there is also South London Youth Orchestra - they have a series of string groups / orchestras but SLYO 2 is grade 6-8+ and is a full orchestra - DD plays in that and enjoys it. SLYO 1 is for 8+ and full orchestral works.

There are also some options out towards SW London and Surrey - if that area is interesting others may have more info

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BBLY · 05/09/2025 13:04

northerngoldilocks · 05/09/2025 13:02

BBLY - how old is your string player?

hi, he is 14.

northerngoldilocks · 05/09/2025 13:02

BBLY - how old is your string player?

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BBLY · 05/09/2025 09:58

Hi all, long time lurker here and occasional commenter. Would love to get an idea of all the different orchestral opportunities in London and nearby for my string player of grade 7/8 standard please? I’m aware of NYO, but have now heard about LSSO, NYSO, LSO? What are the differences please? Feeling a bit overwhelmed. He’s taken part in Chineke! junior’s summer course before and loved it. Thank you in advance for any advice.

IcyAquaSloth · 05/09/2025 09:54

Thanks all. Yes big fan of Benedetti sessions, they did one a year or 2 ago. Also big Pro Corda fan but i think littlest may need to wait an extra year before hopefully joining sibling there and it's pretty long for a first residential. I think i would prefer a 2 to 4/5 nights for her first one.

Thanks for Glos academy recommendation, that looks interesting!

Compsearch · 05/09/2025 09:48

Hi @IcyAquaSloth! I’ve got a little string player too (DS, 7yo, violin). I’ve also been looking at courses for him - he will be 8 by next summer which I think opens up a few more - but I’m not keen on him doing a residential at this age. I think he’d probably be fine I’m just very overprotective (PFB syndrome still strong!), so will have a look into ones that he could maybe attend during the day and stay somewhere nearby with me at night. I’ve heard really good things about Viva strings.

Also keep an eye on the Benedetti sessions which are non-residential weekend sessions dotted around the country. DS has done it twice now and absolutely loved it.

northerngoldilocks · 05/09/2025 00:03

Welcome @IcyAquaSloth- haven’t done viva but everyone who has seems to only have good things to say. I think it would be a brilliant intro to residentials. It’s about 5 days though!

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yodaforpresident · 04/09/2025 23:28

@IcyAquaSloth your eldest would be old enough for Pro Corda (start at age 8) they are in Suffolk but do run other courses in London and the North. DD enjoyed it for cello - mix of technique, chamber and larger groups. She’s never made it to viva as she had to cancel the one year that she could go.

IcyAquaSloth · 04/09/2025 22:42

My eldest did nyso at end of year 3 so that's potentially an option if little one gets in, but its quite far distance wise. Tempted by viva strings potentially too but don't know anything about that one.

horseymum · 04/09/2025 22:33

Hi @IcyAquaSloth welcome! Music residentials are fab, mine have loved them. I don't know any that do them for that young, maybe others have some ideas. There might be some where you'd have to stay too.

IcyAquaSloth · 04/09/2025 17:43

Hi,

I have 2 primary age singers/ string players (violin for the 10 yr old (G5) and cello for the 7 year old (G2).

Thinking of getting the little one to audition for a short residential next year as she has seen her sibling go off on adventures for the last few years and seems keen so if anyone has any recommendations for mini cellists please let me know!

herbaceous · 03/09/2025 22:34

We should be Ok for boys, though I can imagine a fairly gender-fluid approach to gang members!

Think auditions are end of next week... or next. As yet to be confirmed!

QueenMabby · 03/09/2025 22:01

West Side Story is a great one! Not nearly enough boys in drama at DD’s school - our money is on Chicago for hers! She has a straight play to do in October first (auditions this week) before they’ll announce the musical though. When are auditions for your ds?