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How to help a young performer progress?

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CandlesInTeacups · 21/10/2024 21:49

Young Actor Agent Advice UK

Hello 👋🏻

I have a son who is a very enthusiastic performer and would like to progress further in theatre. He is 9 years old, attends graded dancing classes and singing classes and an additional 3 hours a week at a theatre academy. Many of his academy alumni have gone on to full time stage schools and/or West End contracts so he is keen to push himself further.

He has taken part in many small scale theatre shows and recently has attended larger scale auditions, as such with this world so far has one current recall. Rather than me trying to catch opportunities for him by myself, I wanted to start reaching out to some agencies who might be willing to audition new talent and if successful take him on. There are so many out there and my priority is his wellbeing but also to nurture his love of performance and his wish to progress. My questions are:

  • what am I looking for when looking at casting/talent agencies?
  • does anyone recommend anywhere in particular?
  • is there anything I should be aware of as a red flag when speaking with agencies?

All advice appreciated, many thanks for your time 💜🩵🩷

OP posts:
OhCrumbsWhereNow · 22/10/2024 14:24

Everything @TheatreTaxi says.

Would add... with regards to full time stage schools.
Be very careful with this if you are thinking seriously about it.

It can look like a fantastic idea at 11 if they are booking WE shows and doing a lot of auditions, and you think hooray I can stop propping up stage doors and trawling round London to recalls etc.

But, children have a limited lifespan and from 5ft or age 13 you are basically finished for theatre, and frankly for screen too.

We looked at all the vocational schools and know lots of the students at them. Most are doing significant extra classes on top, you don't get the 1-2-1 singing so that needs to be in addition, and you are looking at reduced GCSE options and no sport. The exception would be White Lodge for those serious about ballet.

If you are based anywhere near London (or most big cities) then you can handpick the teachers you want for individual classes and there are lots of weekend MT/dance options.

For agents, you will need photos (as detailed above) and a tape of a verse and chorus of a song plus a short monologue or poem. You can film these on a smart-phone against a blank wall (head and shoulders, landscape). AYPA would be the place to look for agents. You should only need to pay spotlight and headshot fees - we've never had to pay admin or anything like that.

Most importantly, can you manage things if your child is successful? I know families who haven't had holidays in 5 years because you can't go away when they're under contract. Do you have a flexible job where you can drop everything to be at an audition the next day (and potentially 2 or 3 days in a single week).

TheatreTaxi · 22/10/2024 12:40

@CandlesInTeacups, is your DS mainly interested in musical theatre, or does he want to audition for TV/film/commercials as well?

If his main focus is musical theatre, most children's MT auditions go out to open call, and it's relatively easy to be seen without an agent. Jessica Ronane, Debbie O'Brien and Verity Naughton are the casting directors most commonly involved in casting MT shows involving children. Jessica has a mailing list you can sign up to, and the others put open calls out on social media.

You usually need to live within the M25 for London-based shows (though there is often more flexibility on this for boys because they are in scarcer supply). Even touring productions and shows based in regional centres such as the Chichester Festival Theatre usually rehearse in London. There are opportunities for children's MT in the north (Leeds, Manchester, etc), but I'm less familiar with the northern circuit as we are London-based.

There are relatively few professional theatre opportunities for straight acting (i.e. not MT) available for children. While the state of screen acting is pretty dire at the moment (ongoing impact of COVID plus the SAG-AFTRA and writers' strokes in the US), I'd say that under-10s are the age group where there is more work available for juvenile actors (though that's not saying a great deal in the current climate!). If your DS is interested in auditioning for professional work more generally, I'd recommend looking at the agencies who belong to the Agents of Young Performers Association. Some agencies cover modelling/stills work as well as stage and screen - I'd avoid those that do unless your DS is genuinely interested in modelling work, as it's a very different side to the industry. As others have said, you should never be charged a fee to join an acting agency. You will need to join Spotlight, the main casting database, as most reputable stage and screen (and some MT) work goes via Spotlight. Children can't join Spotlight unless represented by an agency.

You don't need professional headshots to apply to an agency. A pair of clear head-and-shoulders shots (one smiling and one serious) in good natural lighting and in plain unbranded clothing is absolutely fine. If you are taken on by an agency and need professional headshots, there are plenty of good reasonably-priced options, and I'd be wary of any agency that insists you have to pay ££££ for their preferred photographer.

Worth being aware that there are down sides to having an agent. An agent will submit a child for any work they fit the brief for, regardless if it's work your child (or you) are interested in being involved in. Turning down auditions is the fastest way to annoy an agent - it is in their interests to have clients audition for as many jobs as possible in the hope of securing a job the agent can earn commission from. It means that you as a parent will have very little control over what work your child is submitted for, and very little leeway to turn down auditions without a cast-iron reason (serious illness, bereavement, public exams, age-inappropriate production content). While most first-round auditions are via self-tape these days, commercial work is still often held in-person and at notoriously short notice, so having a job and family set-up that is flexible enough to enable last-minute travel to castings is important.

Good luck to your DS. My own DS was 9 when he started performing professionally - he's an adult now and still acting, and has had some amazing adventures and met some wonderful people along the way.

sunflowerdaisyrose · 21/10/2024 23:18

Are you South based? For acting/musical theatre try Sylvia Young, Daisy & Dukes, Bruce & Brown, Seaside Kids, Hero, Sally King, Brown & Mills. They are some reputable agencies I can think of offhand.

I find this group helpful on Facebook: parents of child models and actors Uk but might be invite only now so see if you have any friends in it!

It is normal for talent (as opposed to model) agencies to take an annual fee of between £40-£100 plus you'll have to pay Spotlight fees of around £11 a month and most agents want professional headshots annually (but not to apply). Good luck!

Jobs are hard to get but mine get the occasional one (not professional theatre yet though!) and have fun, we don't put in as much effort as some as want to keep it enjoyable and low pressure.

LIZS · 21/10/2024 22:14

Is Not a Pushy Mum still going? Maybe look at the productions he might be interested in and see who represents the kids cast. Some stage schools and casting directors run short courses in performance and audition technique,

redtrain123 · 21/10/2024 21:51

All I know is that, if they ask for money upfront, then run a mile.

Did you see the open casting for the new Harry Potter series? (Not sure if it’s too late now).

Maybe Google young stars you admire, and see who they are represented by?

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