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Spring /Summer 24 - Music thread

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northerngoldilocks · 25/03/2024 18:17

The old thread was filling up, so here's a new one to talk about music activities. Come and talk about music lessons, choosing instruments, exams, auditions, specialist schools, orchestras or whatever other music activities are going on. Everyone is welcome, from those with total beginners to those whose children are studying music at advanced levels. Ask for advice or share successes or struggles. There's loads of experience across a wide variety of instruments too(though bassoon's are weirdly popular on here - you'd think that every second child plays one!).

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chickentikkasalad · 14/07/2024 19:43

Massive congratulations to @NimbleFox DD! Merit is a great result and love her dedication! She'll do well with that attitude.

NimbleFox · 14/07/2024 19:04

Joining in with the exam news my 7yo did her grade 2 piano. It was a bit of a speculative exam booking as she wasn't really ready but I planned to use the free cancellation if necessary. She decided to go for it and worked so hard the last few weeks. It would have been better a month later but she'd have got bored with the pieces over the summer waiting for the next session. Found out this morning she scraped a merit! - Nowhere near where other children on this thread are but I love that she enjoys it and works hard (even though her primary is a music desert)

northerngoldilocks · 13/07/2024 23:02

DS just moved on from a Yamaha 211 too. He went for an Altus A9. His flute teacher said his Yamaha was fine and definitely not urgent to change but that usually around grade 8 would suggest changing. I figured if that was the case he might as well have it earlier so he got it before Grade7. We also got via the APS as he's at state school and plays in the orchestra / ensemble which helped but it's still quite a significant investment. At least flutes are cheaper than strings!

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GeneralMusings · 13/07/2024 22:32

Thankyou mini that's really helpful :). I will do some looking!

minisnowballs · 13/07/2024 22:24

@GeneralMusings dd2 upgraded to a Muramatsu just before her grade 8. She absolutely loves it- it has a b foot, which everyone at her school seems to have - and most of them have that, or an Altus. Some of the very ‘special’ specialists have something far pricier but dd is unlikely to need anything more than this. Because she was at state school when we bought it she got the VAT off which made a huge difference to the price- which was still eye watering. She had a 211 before- they are fine flutes but everyone I spoke with seemed to agree that grade 8 was pretty much their limit.

GeneralMusings · 13/07/2024 20:54

(! Not that we can nec afford it. I just want to know the next thing!)

GeneralMusings · 13/07/2024 20:53

Hope everyone else waiting for results is okay and people have got some good news!!

Flutes - my daughter has a 211. Should I be soon looking at something "better". What's a good upgrade from here?

northerngoldilocks · 12/07/2024 10:33

Congratulations @GeneralMusings DD for Grade 8 merit - that's fantastic.

DS did his Gr7 the same day but we don't have results back yet. Am obsessively checking the ABRSM dashboard despite knowing that they'll go to the music school first and then they'll release to parents, but this knowledge is obviously not stopping me checking 'just in case'. DS goes on a school residential on Monday so would be lovely if we found out before (provided he's passed!).

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minisnowballs · 12/07/2024 09:46

A grade 8 merit is awesome @GeneralMusings - the scales are SO hard at this level (they were DD's nemesis in the exam too because the nerves really got to her) and wind is a nightmare when you're nervous. I remember DD2 telling me the other day her teacher was really impressed with some vibrato she'd done and she replied 'that's not vibrato, it's terror'...

I hope she's really happy. You should be so proud of her.

It's tricky with the A-Level. We knew DD2 would need A-Level music which is one reason she moved. her old school offers it, (although not GCSE on timetable in her year) but lost two music teachers this year, and they were both new, and so most children who did the A-level didn't get any teaching, they are just self-studying. It seems to be very hard for hard-pressed schools to make music work at the moment, especially where the SLT doesn't particularly see the value.

Soundofshuna · 12/07/2024 09:44

I’m glad to hear that whilst 1.5 hours per day may be optimum that it isn’t usually achieved! She usually manages 30 minutes piano on school mornings then longer at the weekend but violin definitely gets less frequent time( although more ensemble and orchestra time.

GeneralMusings · 12/07/2024 09:38

Thankyou! She got a Merit which she's okay about. She completely lost it on the scales which is unusual for her and once she had to repeat one she kind of lost her nerve for the others. But she knew it happened and wouldn't be distinction after all so she's just pleased she still got a merit!

She didn't practice anything like 1.5 hours a day. Maybe at the weekend. Maybe if she had shed not have fluffed it but that was nerves and I don't think it would have been worth it for work/life balance here., music teacher did suggests an hour a day for the last month but that was the final slog! She has other instruments and other activities so wouldn't have been practical.

She's going to go into year 11 doing school orchestra and orchestra for the school performance (so 3x a week after school) and flute group and regional orchestra Saturday and oboe lessons so will be busy even though she's not perusing the diploma.

We're still wondering about A level music as we have a new head of music coming and it's an unknown quanitity. She will be aiming for top grades so may stick to sciences if more predictable and keep music up alongside. She's unlikely to do music at uni

As ever I'm in awe of those in music colleges and working at such a high level!

herbaceous · 12/07/2024 09:35

DS was told an hour a day for last prep for piano diploma. Naturally he didn’t do this so is taking it next term instead!

minisnowballs · 12/07/2024 09:28

I.5 hours a day sounds a lot for grade 8 @Soundofshuna - but maybe that's just because it is strings - DD2 did flute and I think for the last few months managed 45 minutes! But I agree it might be tough in the A-Level year to do both. DD was supposed to take G7 bassoon and G8 flute in the same term. She only did flute - and skipped bassoon because neither teacher was happy with this.

@GeneralMusings hope your DD's exam went well!

northerngoldilocks · 11/07/2024 17:44

Hmm @Soundofshuna that is tricky- the A levels point means that really Easter is too late. Would she consider a performance grade on piano? Would mean learning a 4th piece but could do it as soon as ready after the violin exam rather than having to wait for the Easter public exam sessions.

Also whilst I know that the violin teacher's suggested practice isn't remotely unreasonable for Gr 8 I'm also thinking that its unlikely that my DD who will also be likely to do Gr 8 piano in Dec will get anywhere close to that, maybe we need to re-assess!

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Soundofshuna · 11/07/2024 16:03

northerngoldilocks · 10/07/2024 23:12

Would that be 8 on both @Soundofshuna ? Feels a lot at once! DD considered 7 piano with 5 violin on the same day last year but pushed violin back in the end (then ultimately never sat it)

Is there a push to get them out of the way re some other exams? Otherwise I'd be encouraging mine to split them up if either were considering this. DS did 6 piano at Easter and 7 flute this time and that felt wholly manageable

A levels in the Summer so before then preferably and yes grade 8 on both!
i have spoken to her violin teacher today who thinks she should do it next term and hold off piano but advised 1.5 hours a day practice ( currently she is lucky to fit that in a week but is playing in various things 5 days a week plus a lesson..)

herbaceous · 11/07/2024 14:02

It was briefly confusing, but some YouTube videos helped out! We have one piano accordian, obvs with a keyboard on one side and a big range of buttons on the other which are the chords. The other is I think a melodian, with just buttons, and thus a bit more baffling to a pianist. But a good project for the summer holidays!

Comefromaway · 11/07/2024 12:14

An accordian! My son will be jealous.

herbaceous · 11/07/2024 11:35

Morning all.

Haven't been on here for ages! I am seriously impressed with all the NYO action on here, and wish I'd known about JDs all those years ago when we lived in London...

It's been all go here. DS's had his 15th birthday on Monday. He couldn't think what he wanted (other than a hammer dulcimer) so we sourced him a couple of accordians! They've gone down a storm.

He sang in a gig in London last weekend, including Elvis's If I Can Dream, specially orchestrated, which was a blast. He now has a singing teacher after two years while his voice settled, and will be doing grade 8 next term, along with diploma piano.

Drama continues apace. He's doing West Side Story later this month... And we had a huge dilemma. He got a much-coveted place on the school's astronomy GCSE, which is super-interesting and taught by two amazing guys. But it's an after-school activity which clashes with the school production. After a month of agonising, he's decided to go with school production. He loves it, generally gets a great part, all his friends do it, and it brings him joy. Which is what matters!

Considering joining the Opera North youth thingy when he reaches 16...

Comefromaway · 11/07/2024 10:23

We could get him up there. It's just frustrating that he has given up on his driving lessons, especially as dh's car which was bought as a stop gap was meant to be ds's 18th birthday present (its a small car but specifically bought because the seats fold flat to fit a full sized keyboard).

Comefromaway · 11/07/2024 10:21

I know that feeling except it is either ex students of dh or someone ds knows through NYMT.

He went to see Sister Act yesterday, dh's ex student was depping. (Incidentally ds said Guys & Dolls was fantastic when he saw it last year). An NYMT creative was Asst MD and one of the creatives is the son of someone my dd did ballet with.

minisnowballs · 11/07/2024 10:01

4:30 is brutal @QueenMabby - not surprised you went back to sleep!

@Comefromaway that is exciting - maybe you'll be lucky and someone else will be driving back his way - it is sad not to have him for christmas. Sounds like the career is really taking off now.

Absolutely NO music being done here - DD2 has a friend from school staying. But we did see Guys & Dolls the other night which was great fun - realised as usual that DD2's friend's parents now dominate every orchestra pit in the West End... it feels like 'someone's mum' or 'someone's dad' plays in everything we see nowadays. I swear she's a changeling - why is everyone else's parent a musician?

QueenMabby · 11/07/2024 09:45

That's a great opportunity for your ds @Comefromaway. Sad about Christmas though. How do you feel about it? Is it too far for someone to take him back?

Dd off on music tour today. Dropped at school at 4.30am! Once they'd left I can home and went back to sleep which I'm regretting - I feel shocking!

Comefromaway · 11/07/2024 09:22

Ds has a performing job over Christmas. 5 weeks of panto. He's really looking forward to it. He may not be able to get home for Christmas Day though as the trains won't get him back in time. When my dd did panto the last two years she drives so always managed to get back home.

northerngoldilocks · 10/07/2024 23:12

Would that be 8 on both @Soundofshuna ? Feels a lot at once! DD considered 7 piano with 5 violin on the same day last year but pushed violin back in the end (then ultimately never sat it)

Is there a push to get them out of the way re some other exams? Otherwise I'd be encouraging mine to split them up if either were considering this. DS did 6 piano at Easter and 7 flute this time and that felt wholly manageable

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Soundofshuna · 10/07/2024 22:47

Founders day done here, odd only watching 1 child! Very good hymns so I enjoyed a sing too!
Trying to persuade eldest that doing grade 8 piano & violin next term is not a good idea..

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