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Spring /Summer 24 - Music thread

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northerngoldilocks · 25/03/2024 18:17

The old thread was filling up, so here's a new one to talk about music activities. Come and talk about music lessons, choosing instruments, exams, auditions, specialist schools, orchestras or whatever other music activities are going on. Everyone is welcome, from those with total beginners to those whose children are studying music at advanced levels. Ask for advice or share successes or struggles. There's loads of experience across a wide variety of instruments too(though bassoon's are weirdly popular on here - you'd think that every second child plays one!).

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GeneralMusings · 23/08/2024 22:35

Thanks. Have they put the date of the October one. I sort of want to be ready in case she has got in. She so wants to know!

horseymum · 23/08/2024 22:26

I think they do it in batches. They only tell you about the first event, other events are allocated later and vary according to instrument and ability. Some things will be for those who auditioned for the main orchestra and didn't get in. Might just be one or could be more. It seems a bit fluid during the year as sometimes people are unavailable so next person on the list gets asked.

GeneralMusings · 23/08/2024 20:51

We haven't heard back from inspire yet. Does that mean she didn't get in?

And if you do get in - do you hear about all the events you got in for or just the first one and they take it from there to choose?

Thankyou. So appreciate you all!

mustardrarebit · 21/08/2024 14:56

@minisnowballs I bet a lot of them have either played it before, or are just talking a good game. A lot of paddling will be going on under the surface!

@comefromaway hopefully he's got a few ideas of pieces to listen to and decide which he can stand to listen to for so long! He seems very organised though, he will nail it!

minisnowballs · 21/08/2024 10:32

thanks @Comefromaway I think she feels she should be able to cope with it cos 'everyone else is' and she's now at specialist music school. It's a very high level orchestra though, and I suspect 'everyone else' may not have only been playing their instrument for under five years.

I also suspect 'everyone else' might be talking a good game about how well they are coping.

Comefromaway · 21/08/2024 09:37

That sounds incredibly tough. Not given the music in advance, wow!

minisnowballs · 21/08/2024 07:56

@Comefromaway you are thinking in advance! DD2 is on her final orchestra of the summer. She is EXHAUSTED. They're doing Rachmaninov's second symphony in four days and weren't given the music first and I think she's found the limit of what she can achieve in that time. Faster pace even than school symphony I think (plus she's usually contra on that where there's less to play).

She's sleeping well, at least! Her dad suggested they watch a movie at 9pm last night and she opted for going to bed instead.

Comefromaway · 20/08/2024 22:56

We were only talking about Warsaw Concerto the other week because he was giving an analysis of why Solitaire by the Carpenters is such a good song & I was telling him he should listen to Richard Carpenter playing Warsaw Concerto.

Its for a potential MA in Musical Direction (Musical Theatre)

mustardrarebit · 20/08/2024 22:18

Just asked my husband who suggested some interesting pieces. Not sure what it is for though, so apologies if these are wide of the mark!

Anything by Kapustin, Gershwin - Porgy and Bess transcription or Rhapsody in Blue, Chopin Ballade no.1 (it's in the movie The Pianist, so movie music!). Stravinsky Firebird transcription by Agosti, Moonlight Sonata is in lots of movies. Richard Addinsell - Warsaw Concerto (but technically not classical, just classical in form). Faure Cappricio. op84 no1.

Comefromaway · 20/08/2024 21:26

Ravel & Stravinsky could be a good idea.

modernartifacts · 20/08/2024 19:55

Someone who loves musical theatre and film music might not mind Ravel? Not technically classical of course. Possibly Chopin? Stravinsky? I bet if he listened to some different options he wouldn't end up hating ALL of it! 😂

northerngoldilocks · 20/08/2024 19:43

Depends on the level - could have a listen through grade 8 pieces for the last couple of sessions to see if anything appeals. Was wondering whether could be slightly more modern and if that would help? - DD liked the Samuel Coleridge-Taylor Impromptu in B minor on the previous grade 8 syllabus - ended up not doing it as has gone for Beethoven's pathetique instead (2nd movement) - but the Coleridge -Taylor is quite good - not sure its 'classical' though so depends on whether they mean the era or just not musical theatre? Alternatively her 'aspire to play but not ready yet' piece is The Lark by Glinka / Balikirev which is beautiful but quite challenging. Would something more 'romantic' period be any better?

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Comefromaway · 20/08/2024 17:47

At this stage I’m not sure.

”For Musical Direction you will attend an audition at which you will perform two pieces that you have pre-prepared (1 classical and 1 musical theatre), sight-read, coach a singer and conclude with a short interview. More information will be provided once your application has been received.”

northerngoldilocks · 20/08/2024 16:19

How long does it need to be @Comefromaway and is there any definition of 'classical'- eg specifically that period or just 'not modern'?

Also- is high standard grade 8 or higher?

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Comefromaway · 20/08/2024 14:26

Here is a question for you. In 2 years (nothing like advanced planning) ds will need to play a high standard classical piece on the piano. He HATES classical music. He loves musical theatre & film music.

So any ideas on a piece he can learn that can be deemed to be classical but not be too painful for him. He's also got small hand so no Rachmaninov! I'm wondering about early 20th C perhaps?

londonmummy1966 · 18/08/2024 12:25

herbaceous · 17/08/2024 17:49

Reporting in from the Rodolfus Choral course. It's amazing! The Liverpool cohort is quite small - maybe 20 in total - and so far they've sung mass in the Catholic Catheral and evensong in the Anglican. Sound amazing, for their youth and the time they've had to rehearse.

As well as the group singing they have individual singing lessons, masterclasses and consorts. DS is in 'monosyllabic teen' mode at the moment, but I'll try and get more details out of him to pass on!

Just wanted to flag that any budding singers out there might also be interested in the RSCM Millenium Youth Choir - they usually have 2 courses a year - one a week or so in the summer and one long weekend in the Easter holidays based at a cathedral (Easter often St Pauls). DD2 has done several and really enjoyed it.

herbaceous · 17/08/2024 17:49

Reporting in from the Rodolfus Choral course. It's amazing! The Liverpool cohort is quite small - maybe 20 in total - and so far they've sung mass in the Catholic Catheral and evensong in the Anglican. Sound amazing, for their youth and the time they've had to rehearse.

As well as the group singing they have individual singing lessons, masterclasses and consorts. DS is in 'monosyllabic teen' mode at the moment, but I'll try and get more details out of him to pass on!

yodaforpresident · 15/08/2024 07:47

DD only applied at the start of August too @GeneralMusings for clarinet and cello. She has been offered a day in October but it potentially clashes with a school trip that she may or may not get a space on unfortunately. I’m going to have to contact school to see when they will be able to tell us.

minisnowballs · 15/08/2024 07:46

You have reminded me that we have actually not applied for this year. However, I have no idea whether DD2 is really still eligible. Big sister is, but not interested in doing it at all.

We have always been state school people - don't have any other characteristics that would make DD2 eligible - but obviously move to specialist school makes her now an 'independent school pupil'

DD2 only left her state school because it stopped doing music GCSE - and is now funded by MDS at specialist school. They did ask about funding sources etc and I've always been very upfront about who and what she is - last year they still gave her Inspire though we put down everything about her move, but I feel a bit guilty about it!

My observation is that very few kids in her school have moved there from state (might be more at sixth form). They mostly seem to come from cathedral preps. But no-one in the world would claim she doesn't get enough school music now - she just didn't up to year 10. Guess I just send it in and see what happens?

@northerngoldilocks DD2 didn't manage the Unite day last year, and still got the residential - but that could be a new policy, or just that they didn't have enough bassoons!

northerngoldilocks · 14/08/2024 23:57

Also- on the applying thing, I don't think it matters. I applied as soon as he was 13 but because he wasn't offered anything and was a mid year application it has been rolled forward

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northerngoldilocks · 14/08/2024 23:55

It's DSs first year, I applied in March so he didn't get anything last 'inspire year' and so this is the first thing he has been offered.

They said on the email that everyone who has applied to NYO and NYO inspire has been invited to a day of music making and that they have to attend this NYO Unite day in Oct half term to be considered for the Blackpool residency in Feb.

Hope that's helpful?

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GeneralMusings · 14/08/2024 23:31

Do they get told initially just about the inspire day and then it goes from there?

I hope I've not disadvantaged her by applying not at the beginning of August!

She's quite excited by the whole thing and it's people on this thread that explained some of what it's like that have really encouraged her interest so thankyou all 😊

northerngoldilocks · 14/08/2024 23:14

DS found out about his Inspire day too, it's at the end of the holiday for him which is good as will hopefully be back from holidays.

@GeneralMusings I understand that everyone who applies and fits the criteria gets a day in October so hopefully should hear soon.

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GeneralMusings · 14/08/2024 08:26

@yodaforpresident Fantastic news about inspire! My daughter finished her application yesterday and is hopeful but as a flute is aware it might not happen.

Thanks mini :). Glad to hear it is actually a lot and not just a lot to my ears! I may have a look at switching! I really didn't expect to be struggling this much at this stage in life. (Although very aware this is relative, we have food, housing etc just can't afford the extras easily).

It will be the end of her GCSEs and we can't afford to go away as a family so I'm really hoping they bring the cost down/we find a way so she can have this as a celebration.

Its so lovely hearing everyone's news :)

minisnowballs · 14/08/2024 08:07

@Alwaysplayspicc will definitely watch when we get back from hols - DD was very excited by all the highlights. She's got an orchestra course next week but fortunately from home which takes down the cost and means we occasionally actually see her!

@generalmusings that seems like a lot for a trip - I really hope they come back with some funds/bursaries. We've never been able use them as we are over the threshold (except for MDS),I literally paid for DD2's recent orchestra tour by switching a current account around and getting a load of switching bonuses for doing so. It was a terrible faff but we made quite a lot of money.

Nearly everything our children have done have offered bursaries - while I don't get them for either of our own DDs our foster daughter is usually eligible as she's Ukrainian and is here on her own (except for us, obviously) and has no other way of funding. She's just got into one of the big choirs and we're massively proud of her - but it's a relief there is assistance. Fingers crossed you find something.