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Parenting a (possibly) musical kid

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TreeAtMyWindow · 22/02/2024 12:25

Long time lurker on the music threads here, coming out of the woodwork to ask for advice.

My daughter (7) loves music. She plays two instruments, because when I gave her a choice and she demanded both, I thought she’d drop one in time. She hasn’t. Reports from her music teachers are glowing. When she gets the chance to be in a talent show or try other instruments, she’s super-engaged. At a have-a-go-at-brass day in the autumn she picked up a cornet and immediately played a scale, then went off and did something on the tenor horn that impressed its keeper (playing high notes? Or low notes? I’m not sure).

We’ve been bumbling along for two years, with me, her totally non-musical mother, thinking that she’s no prodigy, but she’s doing well. Last weekend I visited a friend whose kid (8) has had five piano lessons, and is doing so well. He’s halfway through the second book (different series than my kid is using), reading music and playing confidently with two hands. It took way longer for DD to get to that point! So now I’m questioning whether she’s doing as well as I thought. Neither teacher has suggested she takes an exam, which is fine, because I don’t really have money for an exam, but looking it up, she’s playing some pieces which are on the grade one recorder syllabus. She isn’t for piano.

I realise it doesn’t matter if she’s good or not, as long as she’s enjoying it. But it’s relevant to decision making. Like, she seems to do worse on the big piano at her lessons than on her little keyboard at home, and if that’s holding her back, maybe I should get a proper piano, but if it’s just for fun, having something that fits in my little house is a big plus.

Another complicating factor is that she says very confidently that she’s going to be a chorister. At first I tried to manage expectations, then one of the kids she knew from music school became a chorister! So it just seems totally achievable to her, and I feel that if she’s not that musical, I should be getting out in front of the inevitable disappointment.

And finally, my friend with the talented kid pointed out that an orchestral instrument would be much more useful for independent school scholarships than the piano and recorder. I looked up the scholarship information, and they say they should be at grade 5, but I have no idea whether she’s likely to reach that!

I know I could ask her teachers, but tbh I think if I ask, ‘will my 7 year old get grade 5 by age 10?’ they’ll just say, ‘I don’t know, it depends how hard she works.’ And if I ask, ‘is my kid musical?’ they’ll say, ‘yes, I wrote “she is very musical” in her report, did you not read it?’ What I really need is an idea of what normal progress looks like, and how good you have to be for things like choristerships and scholarships. Are those really for only the super-talented? And how do you choose a direction? She wants to do everything, including join a brass band, singing, and take up several more instruments she truly doesn’t have time for. I clearly need to provide some guidance, but I don’t have a clue what I’m doing.

Sorry for the essay. Any advice appreciated.

OP posts:
Siriusmuggle · 22/02/2024 13:29

If she can play brass then it's really versatile- you can do orchestra or band. If she takes to something like the French horn then she'll have loads of opportunities. In terms of your other questions- mine started at 7, grade 4 in year 6 and got a music scholarship for secondary with free lessons and a 10% fee discount. He did grade 8 age 15 and went to specialist music school for 6th form. Now age 20 and second year conservatoire but hasn't done any exams since the grade 8. He loves what he does but is by no means a musical genius, he doesn't want to be a soloist but loves playing in groups.

Octavia64 · 22/02/2024 12:34

The general rule on grades is that you can do about a grade a year after grade 1. But you do need to practice.

So if she's not yet grade 1 she'd need to make more progress than most students in order to get to grade 5 by age 10. Also, and sorry to put you off but music scholarships very rarely get you much money off school fees and are largely for boasting purposes.

However singing in a choir of some description is almost certainly doable, there are a lot of easy to get into children's choirs out there.

Brass bands are also usually pretty welcoming (I have been around the banding world for about 20 years and both my kids played) and will sometimes lend you an instrument as well. Have a look for youth bands or training bands in your area.

Gazelda · 22/02/2024 12:32

I can't answer your question OP. A music teacher might be able to, but I suspect there isn't an 'average'

But I wonder whether you're getting ahead of yourself? Why not simply enable her to do what she wants if you can afford to and if it doesn't impact on her school work and playing. Let her find what she enjoys most and seek guidance from her teachers.

A piano might be too big for her little fingers at the moment. I'd let her continue with her keyboard and see if she wants to pursue Grades. At which point have a convo with her teachers.

Above all, I'd try to resist comparing her to others. At 7 i think she should be enjoying music for pleasure and possibly thinking about Grades if she's that way inclined.

Of course you want to give her all of the opportunities if she's a prodigy. But I think her teachers are the best people to speak to about that.

My DD is at Grade 7 at the moment and not extraordinarily gifted. She plays music to relax. That's enough for both her and me.

Octavia64 · 22/02/2024 12:30

Ime choristerships are for the super talented.

My DS auditioned for one at age 7. He played piano, cornet, violin and he sung. He wasn't good enough and the kids that did get in were super talented.

I think he was about grade 1 on violin, grade 1 on piano and grade 3 or 4 on cornet.
(This was a long time ago).

However, music is enjoyable for itself, and choristers and music scholars work hard for their money/boarding.

He is now a musician, with grade 8 cornet, drums, snare. He also plays ukulele, most orchestral percussion and took up saxophone recently.

Encourage your daughter.

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