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Gymnastics query

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throwitin · 14/08/2021 16:16

My DD is only 3.5yo but I'm thinking about getting her involved in a gymnastics club as she's shown an interest in it.

She's had a taster session at a local one with some great looking facilities. My DD seemed to have a great time and says she would like to attend regularly.

I just can't shake this feeling that it wasn't a nice place.

This is the first activity where she is expected to take part without me (I can see from a viewing area). Before now extra classes have seemed more for fun - which is what I want for her at this age. If you take part then great but with small attention spans they may run off and muck about - no pressure is really put on them.

Is it reasonable at this age to be more strict with getting them to participate? Gently pulling them back in when they run off for example (but being kind and reassuring while also restricting them) The session leaders didn't offer smiles or praise I guess for good work. Just sort of looked for the next kid. Looking around the gym I could see other sessions taking a very strict and disciplinarian approach - I saw a child being told to do some crunches for not getting a jump (or whatever it was!) correct a couple times in a row, this girl was much older than mine but still very young, and miserable looking as a result!

Am I being very pfb about this all or is this to be expected when learning a new sport and as she gets older? What are your children's gymnastics clubs like? I'd hate to get her involved in a cold and toxic environment I guess...

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Lily4444 · 07/05/2022 07:57

Personally, I’d say keep looking. I’ve heard a lot of stories about people having awful gyms but my experience has only ever been with friendly and welcoming staff who were firm but kind.
I think at this age it should be engaging for them and fun - if it’s not then it’s not the right place place

ilovesushi · 22/08/2021 20:06

Listen to your gut. If it feels off then it is probably is. Extra curriculars should be enjoyable. You will know when you have found the right club when she skips out smiling and happy.

finova · 19/08/2021 10:17

I’d view it like any other club. If you’re unsure try a different one. You’ll find one that’s the right fit.
Over the years with 3 kids we have tried 5 swimming lesson providers, 3 tennis coaches, 4 climbing walls, 2 football sessions, 3 gymnastics clubs….before settling on favourites.

thirdfiddle · 18/08/2021 18:22

Agree with don't panic! At preschool age it's just another fun thing to do. If they enjoy it carry on, if not try something else. Things I'd look for, smallish groups so they're well supervised and not waiting around for a turn. Getting to play with different toys or climb on apparatus for a nice varied session. Friendly people.

If at a later stage they want to get more serious you can look around at options again. Signing up to rec classes doesn't commit you to taking the 18 hours a week route any more than toddler football signs you up for your local premiership club's academy or swimming lessons to 6am starts and all weekend galas.

DD has been doing gym since preschool age. She's still happily doing rec at 9. Her club has serious competitive squads but they don't short change the rec groups, DD usually has 6-8 in her group, gets to go on all the apparatus, learns new skills and has fun.

Bunnycat101 · 18/08/2021 12:13

TheBeastReleased Don’t panic. Gymnastics can be brilliant. We are at a lovely rec club and both my girls adore it. They are strict but there is no pressure. It’s one of the best activities we did at a pre-school age and I think was excellent preparation for school.

randomsabreuse · 18/08/2021 10:08

There's a bit less pressure on boys (beyond the basic safety discipline stuff) as they (a) peak later and (b) are less common so clubs have to work to keep the ones they get.

I started toddler gym with my DS and after being ok with the vibe let my 6 yo girl go to her age sessions. Will admit that I waited until she had other sporting interests plus looks like she'll be tall to limit risks of needing to go beyond recreational level...

throwitin · 18/08/2021 09:56

Thank you all.

@TheBeastReleased I'd be interested to get your feedback so please come back and let me know.

I hope it's a nice place and your DS enjoys himself. There's no harm in trying and you know what to look out for now.

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TheBeastReleased · 18/08/2021 09:18

I'm so so glad I found this thread today. My son, also 3 just now (will be 4 in October) is going to his first gymnastics class this afternoon. We signed him up as my husband and I thought it'd be a great outlet for him to have fun and learn more about his body. He's always climbing and jumping off things, and doing handstands and forward rolls. He spends half his life upside down. He's desperate to get into climbing but unfortunately our local climbing walls have stopped doing their kid's clubs for under 6s, so I thought gymnastics would be a good alternative.

I'd imagined the young gymnastics classes would be fun and non-competitive, but having read this thread I'm now worried I've signed him up for something completely different. I think I'm allowed to stay for the class this afternoon so I'll keep a close eye out for any sort of weird vibe. I want him to have fun and hopefully make some friends, not be pushed into spending hours and hours training each week. Thanks for this thread, OP. I didn't have a clue about gymnastics clubs before reading this!

DazzlePaintedBattlePants · 18/08/2021 08:58

This is why we sent our DD to Little Gym. I’m sure it’s sneered at by “proper” gymnasts, but there are massive viewing areas and (especially as they get older) the classes are small and everyone gets close attention and supervision.

The traditional gym clubs around here are still busy channeling the Communist Era vibe - no way am I putting my child through that.

FawnFrenchieMum · 18/08/2021 08:39

@throwitin the other option is to look for a dance school that has a gymnastics or acro class. They don’t have the same feel as a true gymnastic club. They won’t do the beams and bars etc but will do the handstands, cartwheels, Ariels, bridge (so the floor work).

Gilmorehill · 17/08/2021 11:55

@CoastalWave I agree it’s a nasty sport. I remember taking dd to the British championships in 2019. There were so many stressed girls. It was following this that dd quit. She was only ten and was under so much pressure to win medals, it had stopped being enjoyable. She moved to cheer which has been an eye opener! She loves it though.

throwitin · 17/08/2021 09:05

@Bunnycat101 yes I agree. The little ones were actually treated differently to the older ones. My concerns were mostly from what I was seeing around me rather than my DD's session in particular. But thinking that this is the path I would be putting her on does not sit right at all.

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throwitin · 17/08/2021 09:01

@GrrrlPwr yes, I totally agree

@CoastalWave thanks for sharing your experience. I've really taken on board everything you've said. I knew it could be a toxic sport but have been very naive and thought that it was mostly in America (for reasons I can't even explain now!)

I'm glad your daughter is good at it and enjoys it. Still, it must be hard for you not to point out all the ways it is so wrong - I actually felt like in the first session!

It's surprising that that's the opinion of an ex GB gymnast as I thought they'd be the first pushing for change - especially with the influence that you'd think they would have in the sport. Well, nope, that's not want to want to normalise for my daughter or 'get used to'.

Thank you again.

@pasadeda I may look into it but I think I've been put off all together! She may have to keep doing her hand stands and kart wheels in the lounge and use my sofas as her equipment!

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L1ttleSeahorse · 16/08/2021 23:37

@CoastalWave sadly I think youre right its just so pervasive amongst gymnastics. The number of hours and the culture.

Its so sad that the kids accept it as "normal."

pasadeda · 16/08/2021 20:32

If you have a child that loves gymnastics but don't want the competitive element, try a club that does gymfusion.

CoastalWave · 16/08/2021 20:28

My child does 18 hours a week - she 8.

I would NEVER ever ever put a child in gymnastics again. Seriously the most toxic sport ever. I thought it was the first club we were in, so we moved. But trust me, it's just the culture. The club she is at now is the best of a bad bunch. I might add, one club she was at that was simply appalling was run by an ex GB gymnast - who told me (no word of a lie) that it's 'how gymnastics is, and people just need to get used to it'

I'm waiting for her to want to quit. I stay well out of it all. Unfortunately i'm well aware of how mean the coaches are to the girls in general - and I hate how the girls are just used to it. It's low level bullying. Often I daren't say anything as my daughter gets so upset saying it will make things 10x worse if I do. She loves her teammates which is why she still does it (that, and she loves it and she's good at it) That and lockdown was so tough - 15+ hours on zoom that she's desperate to stay and do her next level grades just so she has something to show for it.

I would love to find a club that was genuinely friendly and welcoming. They don't exist. Rec kids just bring in the income - they don't give a shit about your child. Once you're in squad, you're desperate to stay so you put up with a lot or else they threaten to move your kid back to rec. It's also impossible to be 'spotted' - you need to push your child forward for a trial if you think they have potential. Most clubs won't even advertise they have squads. There's a large club near us that has 200+ kids in rec - not one has ever been spotted. It's all who you know - children of coaches, friends of coaches etc etc. Once you're in squad, even if you're 5/6 you can wave goodbye to birthday parties etc etc.

I've complained to BG three times now - not once have they been surprised and no once has it been an isolated experience. It's a toxic sport and needs to massively change.

Bunnycat101 · 16/08/2021 20:13

At 31/2 it should be fun. My eldest did pre-school classes at a rec only gym and a serious gym. At both classes they were quite strict but it was fun and encouraging at pew-school level. I would not be wanting small children to be punished in that way. In both our classes, there were little ones in and out for the loo, others that needed a hug or some comfort. I wouldn’t put a toddler anywhere that wasn’t prepared to deal kindly with little ones.

GrrrlPwr · 14/08/2021 22:46

Go with your gut feel.
It if was the right club for your DD then you wouldn't have needed to post here and ask for advice.
Trust your Judgment

throwitin · 14/08/2021 22:34

@FusionChefGeoff ha, yes! It's very much accidental. I didn't even know places like this existed! Glad you managed to make a smooth exit.

@ChoccyJules yep, you're so right there.

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ChoccyJules · 14/08/2021 22:26

The child being given crunches as punishment for not getting a move right would be a hard no from me.

FusionChefGeoff · 14/08/2021 22:20

We accidentally joined a 'proper' club which was very full on so as soon as COVID hit we used it as the opportunity to back out quietly!!

I hated the focus on what you looked like in the older age groups and the pressure to train for hours / strength train etc was definitely not what we were after.

throwitin · 14/08/2021 22:04

@Gilmorehill yes, I need to find a place with good coaches/facilities but that is also welcoming and friendly (this place was ... ok friendly. Not rude or anything but just sort of, off.) I'd be willing to travel too for a nice place.

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throwitin · 14/08/2021 22:01

Thanks so much to everyone above. I know there are greater problems in the world and 3 is so young to be concerned with all this - but I really have been swinging between thinking this club is bonkers and thinking I'm the one that is bonkers! I've been so stressed about it ha!

There has been tonnes in the press about gymnastic culture over the last couple years so this has been at the forefront of my mind. It's such an enjoyable sport (I did do a little when I was younger but nothing like what I experienced today!) and I want her to pursue it but just to have fun and to get some physical activity in.

So many things that have been mentioned are ringing true - not paying attention to the kids that probably aren't as good, talking about the number of hours input each week (I have received emails since signing up) etc. It just generally being more like a boot camp than a fun hobby. I want her to get more confident - not feel inferior!

Yes, I was thinking 'oh she's not there yet. It will be ok for a year or so' - but why start her on that path in the first place?! I did have a 'eek this does not feel right' moment from only 10 or so minutes into the session and ended up trying to make it 'ok' somehow.

@L1ttleSeahorse thanks for coming back and expanding on your experience - it really helped me see sense again! Blush

My instincts are saying find another club - thanks all for grounding me again!

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L1ttleSeahorse · 14/08/2021 21:50

It might be worth asking around older parents locally. We were warned tbf but got so wrapped up in it at the time!

Gilmorehill · 14/08/2021 21:48

@FawnFrenchieMum

Definitely depends on what level you want to be at. The club near us ( a few of my daughters friends go) has recreational, development & squad. The discipline & commitment grows with the level. The push ups for example would be quite normal from development squad, the actual squad girls train for around 15 hours per week and there is no give for messing around or not listening, this is from as young as 6 years old.

You will definitely also find more relaxed clubs if that’s what your looking for but don’t expect the facilities to be as good.

I have to disagree. My dd gave up just before lockdown but she was a member of a squad which competed at a national level at a club which produced many British champions and team GB members. They were still able to be friendly and welcoming and there was a nice atmosphere. We actually traveled half an hour to go there because our local gymnastics club had a reputation for being negative and I got the same vibes from it as the Op did when dd was a toddler.