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Autumn term 2019 music thread

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thirdfiddle · 30/08/2019 16:45

September is looming, the old thread is getting full - I think it's time for a new music thread. This is a support thread for parents of children who are into music or indeed just thinking about giving it a try.

Perplexed about starting the piano? Experimenting with ensembles? Concerned about college applications? All welcome here. Huge thanks to those lending their expertise and sage advice and particularly wafflenose for starting the threads.

So, new school year, what's new with your mini musicians?

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PetraDelphiki · 09/09/2019 21:51

And you can get a bloody good cornet that will take them through as long as they want to play for £300! DH says if you can it’s worth trying them first - plus also try different mouthpieces (makes an enormous difference apparently)

PetraDelphiki · 09/09/2019 21:49

Be grateful they aren’t string players!!!! You can’t spend more than 4 figures on a trumpet/cornet (£3000 will get you a professional instrument)...a decent violin for a g8 player starts at that and the sky’s the limit (plus 100 for strings, another 4 figures for an appropriate bow etc etc)...

Cablestitch · 09/09/2019 20:01

Thank you very much, Petra. That's really helpful. I've one about to take Grade 1 and one on Grade 3. They both love doing it and I think cornets sound great but I had no idea when we started how pricy the new ones are!

PetraDelphiki · 09/09/2019 17:49

He says “The Besson International looks good and has a trigger on third valve. Their JP271 is at a similar price and again looks good. They don’t call it a beginner model but looks good. The very basic JP071 actually gets good reviews. ”

PetraDelphiki · 09/09/2019 17:30

Dh suggests here

www.johnpacker.co.uk/shop/secondhand-musical-instruments

There’s actually new ones cheaper but I suspect a second hand will be a better bargain!

PetraDelphiki · 09/09/2019 17:19

Place marking here so that I will remember to ask do about brass for you (because he doesn’t have a brass buying addiction at all...)

Cablestitch · 09/09/2019 15:14

Hi. Can anyone recommend a website for second hand brass instruments please? I have 2 DC doing cornet, both love it but have other interests too so I don't want to pay the eyewatering amount for a new one. But we pay termly rental to school so a second hand one would make sense I think. I have no musical knowledge at all so I'm a bit lost.

OneLovelySister · 08/09/2019 21:11

sushi, I write the time on DD’s hand in biro Blush She’s Y5, though; it may be unacceptable to secondary-age DC!

Would reminders on an Apple Watch set on a phone get around the phones-in-school issue?

ilovesushi · 08/09/2019 09:50

Paddington that's a great idea about suppling the music teacher with a timetable in case all other strategies fail! Just remembered that school don't allow phones to be seen or heard during the school day, so I will need to chat his tutor about how we do timed reminders on phone or watch.
Margia I haven't even thought about how practice is going to fit around increased homework demands! None of us are morning people so that's out for starters.

MargiaStevens · 07/09/2019 18:37

It involves me being organised! Harp and singing lessons happen at school, and the same teacher does violin/piano in one longer lesson.

Practice wise, we aim for two instruments a day (unless there’s a lesson or rehearsal in which case the relevant one is classed as practised). Luckily I like lists!! I’ve often asked if she wants to stop any of them but no, she’s determined to carry on!

PaddingtonPaddington · 07/09/2019 16:00

@ilovesushi DD used to have this arrangement of different times each week so that they don’t miss the same school lesson. For year 7 we gave the instrument teacher a copy of her timetable in case she got in a muddle and the teacher could get her if she completely forgot.

@thirdfiddle the audition was for a holiday type orchestra as she already plays in a fortnightly string group outside of school so couldn’t really fit much else in!

ilovesushi · 07/09/2019 15:02

Some great ideas thirdfiddle. I think a phone with programmed reminders is going to be really crucial in secondary. Not sure how to get in contact with the tutor, but I will. DS is super independent and hates any kind of outside help which I totally respect but it doesn't stop him struggling in some areas.

thirdfiddle · 07/09/2019 11:21

ilove, I think I'd ask his form tutor for help as it's related to his dyslexia. For example could he as an exception have a fixed slot e.g. during lunch break or music lesson? Or have his slots be at the beginning of a lesson so he just needs to remember go at the beginning of maths say? Or could they communicate to you when the slot is so you can help him set an alarm on his phone/watch to tell him when to go?

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ilovesushi · 07/09/2019 09:06

DS started secondary this week. All good so far, but it seems the instrument lessons switch time slot each week. Not sure how he is going to manage this. He is chronically disorganised and not good at telling the time (severe dyslexia). Has anyone else a strategy to make this work!?

thirdfiddle · 06/09/2019 23:24

Fingers crossed for her Paddington! Is it a holiday courses type orchestra or a weekly one?

Margia I'm also Shock at the number of lessons and practises involved there. DC's piano teacher says the more instruments they do the quicker they learn, by that reckoning your DD should go far.

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PaddingtonPaddington · 06/09/2019 20:44

Back from DDs audition for the county youth orchestra. She came out with a smile on her face and said it went well just a few nerves here and there. Won’t know for a few weeks so fingers crossed.

Boyskeepswinging · 06/09/2019 18:48

Ah, excellent, Raspberry. I have been semi seriously looking at intense courses, like you say it's trying to fit it into an already busy schedule.

raspberryrippleicecream · 06/09/2019 18:42

Seventeenth birthday ten weeks away 'Boys', difficulty will be fitting in the lessons!

Boyskeepswinging · 06/09/2019 17:50

Blimey Margia that lot must cost an absolute fortune, notwithstanding the logistics of all that practice. How on earth does she fit it all in?!

Boyskeepswinging · 06/09/2019 17:45

Raspberry I know exactly what you mean. Mine gets asked to do a lot as his principal study is rare round these parts so I do keep an eye on him to make sure he's not overdoing things. We balance things by going to bed relatively early on non-concert or rehearsal nights, sleeping in whenever there's an opportunity and ensuring that he has some completely free days just to chill.

You might find going to JD actually helps as it's a one stop shop for everything. Most of my free time is spent driving to the various lessons, rehearsals and concerts. I've already told him he's taking his driving test on his 17th birthday Grin

MargiaStevens · 06/09/2019 11:30

Morning everyone! Nice to see a new thread!

Occasional poster here but hoping to post more. Just the one DD (8) who is due to take Grade 1 harp this term, as well as possibly Grade 1 violin. She’s also working towards Grade 1 piano and Grade 2 singing. Nothing like a good list to make sure all practice is done!!

At the moment she doesn’t have much in the way of external ensembles, she sings in the local Minster choir but other than that it’s school choir and orchestra. She’s a bit shy of trying new ensembles at the moment unless she already knows someone but I’m hoping that’s an age thing.

raspberryrippleicecream · 06/09/2019 07:52

Oh I know Boys. There are 70 years between him and the player next to him in his section in one band! I'm more worried about him taking too much on with starting JD this year too.

Boyskeepswinging · 06/09/2019 06:11

Ha ha Raspberry some of the ensembles DS plays with are similar in age! It doesn't seem to phase him at all though, they love having a young 'un in the group and he gets to play with people with decades of musical experience which they're generously sharing with him. I think it's really good for his social skills too to play with older adults. He plays with lots of youth ensembles too so I think he gets a good balance.