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November Music Thread

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Wafflenose · 30/10/2018 22:09

Welcome to all musicians/ parents of musicians, young and 'mature', beginners and advanced, plus everything in between. This is one of the nicest corners of Mumsnet and the music threads were started for my older daughter towards the beginning of her musical journey, 7 years ago. Everybody on the thread was a beginner once!

I have recently seen "we're not a musical family", "I'm not musical" on here quite a lot, and would like to gently challenge that... perhaps you may not have found the right instrument/ teacher yet, or have no desire to play, but I think that everyone is musical. It's not a special something that is limited to certain individuals, although of course everyone's aptitude and natural ceiling varies. I have had the pleasure of teaching almost 1000 people to read and play music now, ranging in age from 3 to 96 and incorporating a range of additional needs, and I think they all got something positive from their lessons! What our young musicians most need from us - whether we play ourselves or not - is lots of encouragement, time and space to practise, and of course the constant taxi service and financial support we give to their lessons and ensembles!

I have two DDs, Goo The Energy Conserver (flute and piano, lapsed recorder and picc player) who is pretty lazy and complacent at the moment and just wants to enjoy her life, and Rara The Awkward (clarinet, cello, recorder) who tries hard... when it suits her! We have nothing special lined up this term, but possibly piano and clarinet exams for next term. Goo claims she wants to dust off her recorders and theory books to get another couple of Grade 8s before she leaves school. I'll believe that when it happens.

Over to you.

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druidsong · 11/11/2018 17:47

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RomanyRoots · 11/11/2018 17:36

My dd has been told to hold off any more theory exams for a while.
grade 6 is a huge step up according to her teacher.
She is studying it, but I don't think she's likely to take another theory exam until grade 8.
If they are taking GCSE and A level it isn't necessary, but of course the UCAS points are handy if they are going to study at an institution that counts the points.

Wafflenose · 11/11/2018 17:32

Goo will definitely do more theory, but I would rather she were a bit older. Grade 6 is more like grade 10! As well as being completely and utterly different.

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Floottoot · 11/11/2018 16:52

I'm tempted to keep DS going with theory, Melting, as I think it would be useful for GCSE music. Don't think he'll be so keen, though...

In a different subject, just spotted this advertised on a FB teachers group:

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MeltingWax · 11/11/2018 15:19

Is anyone's DCs continuing to work on theory post Grade 5? I seem to remember at least one DC from the thread - is it raspberry's mini? And Goo?

DD is keen to continue as she seems to enjoy theory. We don't know how she has got on with Grade 5 yet of course so waiting to see there. I have been having a look through some of the Grade 6 material - think my poor grey cells and memory are going to put to the test Confused.

Wiifitmama · 11/11/2018 13:09

Waffle, I have found my ds2 to be very rigid in wanting to stay with the same music teacher and really not wanting to entertain the idea of a different one. I think it is fear of the unknown. But in fact, I think a change of teacher can be like a breath of fresh air sometimes. So while it might feel like the end to her now, once she has reconsidered, a new teacher might actually turn out to be a good thing.

cantkeepawayforever · 11/11/2018 12:53

Thinking of you, Waffle.

For us, a door closing in one area - DS was a very promising junior footballer, fairly brutally deselected from the professional club junior setup - in fact opened what turned out to be a much better door in another area.

At the time, it was really difficult, but it does now feature in the first line of NBB's UCAS conservatoire personal statement as a positive turning point in his life!

woolleybear · 11/11/2018 12:14

Sorry to hear that you are having a hard time waffle, I hope all comes good in the end.

Dd was just 8 when she started a Bb clarinet but was quite tall for her age then.

Voluntarily doing extra clarinet practice here this weekend. Such a turn around from a few months ago. It's been ignore a bit as bassoon concert last week and in two weeks time.

cantkeepawayforever · 11/11/2018 12:12

Thank you all for your kind words!

Mood in the Nosebleed household is probably best described as 'cautiously optimistic but nervous'.

This first audition shows that he is not a long way off the required standard, otherwise he would simply have been rejected. That is reason for optimism, as certainly I haven't been confident of that up till now.

However, nor is it the endorsement that an offer would have been, and especially with his preferred institution's audition coming up, all nerves are jangling.

It also starts to feel a bit more real and not an impossible dream, so nervousness (for us as parents) about the long term implications of choosing jazz performance as a post-18 option are more to the fore!

Wafflenose · 11/11/2018 11:04

Without saying too much, we can't just go privately to this teacher, because we need full funding. It's a 2.5 hour round trip to her anyway!!

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Knittinganewme · 11/11/2018 10:46

Can'tkeepawayforever I just want to echo what Floot said. The first audition is going to be the hardest because it is unfamiliar. He's been there, done that now and he knows that his performance was fine. It is a nerve wracking time for them (and us) but it will be for everyone else too.

LooseAtTheSeams · 11/11/2018 10:24

Waffle I don't have any useful advice but wanted to sympathise as it must be so hard for both of you. Obviously I hope she does decide to carry on, even if it means changing teachers - not an easy decision, I'm sure.

Floottoot · 11/11/2018 09:34

cantkeepaway, don't despair - he only needs one full offer. When I did music college auditions, I did Guildhall, RCM, RAM and RNCM. For reasons I can't even remember, I set my heart on the RCM, but got offered a reserve place there and definite offers from the other 3. Lots of people get a mixture of reserves and firm offers, so a reserve offer at this stage doesn't mean it's all over by any means, especially if it wasn't his playing in question.

Everything crossed and double crossed for his first choice.

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MeltingWax · 11/11/2018 07:17

If Goo's teacher is not part of the issue she has experienced at the CAT maybe there could be a private teaching arrangement? Obviously, if the teacher is part of the issue then I could see why you'd be looking elsewhere. Alternatively, if the teacher is the issue then maybe Goo could stay with the centre but with another teacher? You have probably already been through all this as options...

Trumpetboysmum · 11/11/2018 06:59

Is there no way she can stay with the teacher anyway waffle ? I think goos CAT is slightly different to ds’s which only advises on teachers so you are free to go to who you want . Both myself and ds were really worried about him changing teacher - but I think it’s turned out to be a really positive thing ( although it caused me a few sleepless nights finding someone !!) hope it all works out

Wafflenose · 11/11/2018 00:26

Teacher comes with her current CAT. Which she needs to leave.

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catkind · 10/11/2018 23:38

Flowers waffle, that sounds complicated. Hope she can find a way she's happy with one way or other.

cantkeep, reserve place at this stage is really encouraging, good luck with the next audition.

Lotsofmilkonesugar · 10/11/2018 23:29

Sounds like you know what will be best... hopefully things will improve soon. Shame if she has to change teacher if it’s someone you’re both happy with though

Wafflenose · 10/11/2018 22:04

I think a break would be disastrous, so we're doing our best to jolly her along. She doesn't cope well with change, but is going to have to change provider and teacher. She's acting like she'd rather stop than do that, but due to a similar experience recently, I think she will change her mind when the end is in sight.

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Lotsofmilkonesugar · 10/11/2018 22:04

Cross post! Sorry to hear she is off playing, not sorry about the GCSEs !! 😂

Lotsofmilkonesugar · 10/11/2018 22:02

Sorry to hear that waffle , do you think maybe after a short break or relaxing time for a while she will get back to it? Very difficult situation for you 💐

Wafflenose · 10/11/2018 21:56

Goo says she is doing Music, History and French GCSEs. She has to do English Lang, English Lit, Maths, Physics, Biology, Chemistry and RE. She wants to do English Lit, Law, Maths and Music A-levels. At the moment, anyway! I realise it could all change, but she seems to have it worked out.

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littleladsdad · 10/11/2018 21:43

I don't know anything about clarinets Jaffa but your name made me lol. Grin

cantkeepawayforever · 10/11/2018 21:03

DS on earning a living:

'Well, I'll probably end up teaching something."

He'd be the third generation of teachers in the family, so he's probably right....

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