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November Music Thread

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Wafflenose · 30/10/2018 22:09

Welcome to all musicians/ parents of musicians, young and 'mature', beginners and advanced, plus everything in between. This is one of the nicest corners of Mumsnet and the music threads were started for my older daughter towards the beginning of her musical journey, 7 years ago. Everybody on the thread was a beginner once!

I have recently seen "we're not a musical family", "I'm not musical" on here quite a lot, and would like to gently challenge that... perhaps you may not have found the right instrument/ teacher yet, or have no desire to play, but I think that everyone is musical. It's not a special something that is limited to certain individuals, although of course everyone's aptitude and natural ceiling varies. I have had the pleasure of teaching almost 1000 people to read and play music now, ranging in age from 3 to 96 and incorporating a range of additional needs, and I think they all got something positive from their lessons! What our young musicians most need from us - whether we play ourselves or not - is lots of encouragement, time and space to practise, and of course the constant taxi service and financial support we give to their lessons and ensembles!

I have two DDs, Goo The Energy Conserver (flute and piano, lapsed recorder and picc player) who is pretty lazy and complacent at the moment and just wants to enjoy her life, and Rara The Awkward (clarinet, cello, recorder) who tries hard... when it suits her! We have nothing special lined up this term, but possibly piano and clarinet exams for next term. Goo claims she wants to dust off her recorders and theory books to get another couple of Grade 8s before she leaves school. I'll believe that when it happens.

Over to you.

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catkind · 13/11/2018 20:54

Wine waffle, sounds incredibly difficult, both musically and financially.

Trumpetboysmum · 13/11/2018 20:06

That’s difficult waffle . I hope they get back in touch with you soon and that Goo still gets to go on her music tour . She’s so good and has done so well once she’s had some time and space she could definitely return to it and do amazingly they’re all still so young .
Good luck with the hunt for a new teacher too - hopefully you have some possible teachers in mind . Ds’s old teacher was great and ds misses his lessons - but the new teacher has had an amazing impact on his playing and attitude ( this especially) in the last few weeks sometimes change can be a good thing ( even when we feel it’s been forced upon us for whatever reason)

Wafflenose · 13/11/2018 19:55

I don't know, Doubleup - I asked various questions about the notice period but they have yet to acknowledge my email of more than 24 hours ago. It's a school music tour and I hope we can still pay for it out of her untouched 2017-18 courses budget.

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Doubleup · 13/11/2018 19:48

Difficult situation Waffle. Is there the opportunity to withdraw your notice before the end of 3 months if Goo has a change of heart?

Alsoplayspiccolo · 13/11/2018 19:42

That is a lot to lose in one go, Waffle. Is the school trip a music tour? Does the school have any kind of hardship funding you could apply for?
Perhaps knowing the end I'd coming will give Goo time to (re)think and consider what she wants to do, moving forward.

Lotsofmilkonesugar · 13/11/2018 18:57

Very sorry to hear that waffle , difficult time for you. I hope that things will turn out ok 💐 🍷

RomanyRoots · 13/11/2018 17:46

So sorry to hear this Waffle
Maybe she has temporarily burned out and may seem music as keeping her away from other things. I know this probably isn't true but their minds are funny at this age.
She may well come back to it after a break and she certainly wouldn't be the first.
Another thought is, now she has reached such a high standard perhaps she feels as though she has nothing else to work towards and she has gone as far as she wants to for now.

MeltingWax · 13/11/2018 17:41

Very sorry to hear that waffle Flowers

Boyskeepswinging · 13/11/2018 17:17

So sorry to hear that Wafflenose. Really hope things turn around for Goo. It's a horrible age. Best wishes to you both x

Wafflenose · 13/11/2018 17:07

We have given notice to Goo's Centre of Advanced Training. She will lose her dfes funding, flute lessons, mentoring and probably her school trip to Germany - and over trivia in the end. But she is steadfastly refusing to go back. Will update you when there is anything further to add, but there's a 3 months notice period so we probably won't have any news for a long time.

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RomanyRoots · 13/11/2018 12:33

should read Berklee, not Barklee Grin

RomanyRoots · 13/11/2018 12:32

hapsburg

I think that's an important point.
teaching staff can change from one year to another and new teachers create a new/ different atmosphere.
Different styles too can make a huge difference.
I know that Barklee and Juilliard are really best for Jazz in America, but Yale comes pretty much top for classical.
In England Jazz at present is Trinity Laban and Guildhall, but this could change next year.
Also, just because somebody names a college as best for their dc it could be quite unsuitable for your own.
Over the years I've learned that firstly look at the reputation, then suitability/ good fit of teacher, then environment and personal suitability.

hapsburg · 13/11/2018 12:20

DD has already lined up where she wants to go - but this is totally dependent on the teachers rather than the actual college, which of course could easily have changed by the time she is auditioning.

TaggieOHara · 13/11/2018 11:21

Scary statistics!

DS2 made me laugh the other day. He is only 10 and has no clue about how competitive a music career is, or how good you have to be. He thinks perhaps if getting a highly paid job as a YouTuber/Barrister doesn't work out, it would be good to have the violin as a reserve option.

Ummm - maybe not...

druidsong · 13/11/2018 11:09

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hertsandessex · 13/11/2018 10:23

tHapsburg - I think yes and no regarding the skew. The total applicant figures is 8,000 (i.e. 8,000 people applied via UCAS) but if you look at the table for individual colleges the total is around 15,000 so each student is applying to around 2 colleges (or maybe 3 including Guildhall) on average. A lot of the overall data is therefore not skewed but yes when you drill down there are multiple applications. For example yes 120 applications for percussion for 30 places is not 120 people but probably more like 60 overall although most of the those 60 have probably applied for leading places like RCM and RAM and not so many say at Cardiff. So RCM has maybe 60 people for say 6 slots with a large chunk of the 60 having it first or second choice.

Violinboymum · 13/11/2018 10:17

*Clementi

Violinboymum · 13/11/2018 10:11

Is anybody going to take part in Clemeti competition in Tunbridge Wells? I signed up DS but getting a bit nervous, he is doing grade 3 piano in a few weeks, has been studying for a little over a year (started last September) and the competition is for grades 4 to 6. Hopefully he will be ok.

Violinboymum · 13/11/2018 10:09

This discussion is so useful! Just ordered DS reeds for his clarinet. Thank you for the recommendations.

NotAnotherJaffaCake · 13/11/2018 09:14

Crazygirlmama thank you for the clarinet info. Really good to know.

hapsburg · 13/11/2018 09:12

Please someone tell me if I am being really thick, but surely the UCAS application/acceptance figures are massively skewed by the fact that each applicant will probably make at least 3 or 4 applications, but can only accept 1 place.

folkmamma · 13/11/2018 07:44

SE22 so pleased you went for it and DD is in a better place!!! Great news.

Congrats to Snowballs dad, hero!!!

ZakStarkey · 12/11/2018 22:37

Yes European schools look great!!!
Haven’t looked at US- but will have a look 👀 Smile

RomanyRoots · 12/11/2018 22:26

Zak
It's good isn't it, dd has been looking for a while.
Another interesting area to look are the European and American schools, and how they all vary.

ZakStarkey · 12/11/2018 21:38

Just looked up the UCAS thing- Conservatoires.....very interesting!
None accepted on any years (although tiny numbers- like 5-10- but still) on jazz violin....
Others seem to have huge application numbers like violin, piano and quite low acceptance figures.
Percussion similar too- although small numbers applying and then smaller numbers being accepted