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Music Specialist School Discussion

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Kutik73 · 10/06/2018 22:58

Sorry, this is rather long…

We’d never considered specialist school route for our musical DS, especially at such a tender age (he is Y6). However, we’ve recently started seeing it could be an option in possibly near future.

The state secondary school DS is supposed to start from September has good reputation with a wide range of extracurricular activities and music is one of their strengths. However, they also hand out heavy amount of academic work daily, and basically keep their pupils pretty busy. Keeping teens busy could be a good thing, especially for those who may get in trouble or glue themselves to screen otherwise. But DS loves music and he likes to immerse himself in music more, but in reality, he’ll have less time for such freedom once he starts secondary school. The additional journey time is another thing. It takes 45 mins to get there, whereas it’s only 5-10 mins currently.

A friend suggested we could see specialist school as a small private school with strong music activities rather than a place where all DCs were aiming to be professional musicians.

Her logic is, the class size is a lot smaller than the state secondary school so pupils get more attention hence learn more efficiently, all the while there is no compromise in music studies. DCs who are keen to keep up academic work on top will manage to get good enough GCSE results for decent sixth form if they decide to pursue other than music for A level/uni. Although sixth form seems the most popular (and sensible) time to join specialist school, KS3 is actually the best time because if DCs change their mind on course, it’s easier for them to return to ‘normal education’ possibly at sixth form with good enough academic record and musical ability strong enough to be a music scholarship material. But if they stay focused on music and in fact decide to take it seriously, starting early will only become beneficial. Though, it depends on circumstance of course, and instrument. DS plays violin/piano for instance - hence early start can be rather important.

However, I heard and read some scary stories about music specialist school while I was researching. Some claimed they felt like they were living in a prison, some expressed unhappiness (even though they recognised the benefit and appreciated their fortunate position), some teachers talked about very able young musicians going to specialist school as a huge mistake, etc…

DS innocently expresses strong desire to go to music specialist school. I, as a parent, wish him happiness more than anything. By accepting his desire and letting him go where he says he likes to go, am I pushing him into a harsh and scarily competitive world unnecessarily? Or, like my friend suggested, it could be a lot more flexible than I may have been thinking and in fact could be good alternative KS3 education for musical and academic DCs?

Any thoughts/knowledge/experience would be greatly appreciated…

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Kutik73 · 01/07/2018 21:57

But we won't know until we get the final confirmation. In fact we have to submit the form....

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Kutik73 · 01/07/2018 21:55

I am hoping it's not the case for music specialist school. It seems almost everyone can get some financial aid from what I hear and also the information on the website seems promising....

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hapsburg · 01/07/2018 21:54

I seem to have done things differently to everyone else - I didn't (couldn't) accept JD place until they had confirmed financial assistance. They were brilliant though and really quickly agreed a level of fees that meant we could manage, then they went off to work out the funding from various sources. Massively grateful to them as this meant we could accept the place for DD.

littleladsdad · 01/07/2018 21:46

Didn't want to cause consternation either folk. These awards are made depending on individual circumstances but as far as I could see a family would need to be on a fairly low single income to qualify for help.

Kutik73 · 01/07/2018 21:30

folk, sorry I didn't mean to make you worried. We didn't apply from the beginning as we knew we wouldn't qualify. So your case may be different from ours.

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folkmamma · 01/07/2018 21:04

🤯

Kutik73 · 01/07/2018 19:55

The same here, littleladsdad. We didn't qualify for jd fees.

raspberry Shock

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folkmamma · 01/07/2018 18:58

Oh no littleladsdad, I really hoped we were in with a shout 😔

raspberryrippleicecream · 01/07/2018 17:57

The MDS forms sound similar to filling in student finance forms for uni!

I messed up this year on the student finance form as apparently I have put income down as xx million, I imagine I'd put in pence where shouldn't have. Its confused things a bit!!!

Still waiting for feedback. Imagine it can't be long as its nearly the end of term!

littleladsdad · 01/07/2018 17:22

Folk We were hoping to get help with Conservatoire fees this year but we didn't qualify. As others have maybe mentioned, it's a pure income test rather than a true means test. Our income was too high so we got nada. The MDS for Specialist Schools is also an income test but is more generous in the help it offers - I hope!

littleladsdad · 01/07/2018 17:13

The MDS is the bit that's causing me the most stress and I can't wait to get some confirmation that all is OK.

hertsandessex · 01/07/2018 11:52

Sure it will be fine Kutik. Just make sure you have proof especially tax returns/wage slips etc.

Kutik73 · 01/07/2018 09:55

I feel like things never become certain until the very last minute!! I can't wait to be able to confirm DS is definitely going to the school 100%!

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Kutik73 · 01/07/2018 09:53

They asked me to return the form asap but the absolute latest would be this coming Friday. I need DH to check the details and also need his signature but he's away till Tuesday. I might drive to the school to hand it in rather than posting!!

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Trumpetboysmum · 01/07/2018 06:43

No checks at home though Grin - justvlits if print outs of bank statements bills etc . Last year we were in the middle of moving so I just had to say what we thought our new bills etc would be and that was fine !!

Trumpetboysmum · 01/07/2018 06:42

It will be fine Smile
we haven't had our MDS forms yet for AYM . They also have their own form which goes into more detail ( including how much dd's extra curricular activities are etc) they use this info to award money from all their other bursaries. It's a really good system as they have contacts that I would never have so this year Ds got money from the Leverhulme trust which was a really nice surprise ( and a massive help) as well as from an endowment made to Snape

Kutik73 · 01/07/2018 02:53

How stupid I am! I was wondering when they were sending me the bursary form, so dropped an email a few days ago just to give them a gentle nag. Then I received an email from them nagging back at me about the completed form. I looked into my emails then noticed the form was sent to me nearly two weeks ago.... How could it happen!!!?? Another panic...

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hertsandessex · 01/07/2018 00:51

Yes MDS in our experience is very straightforward but I remember the stress first time around! It was all explained but somehow didn't quite believe it! Basically just fill in the form and wait a month or so with award letter coming early in summer holiday. Unless you have a very unusual situation or don't provide full information and proof the rough guideline numbers will be about right. Certainly no visits required! Maybe the odd extra piece of paper required as proof. Also at our school I don't even think it is the MDS that makes the assessment but the school (although audited later by MDS) It really seems the scheme is set up to make it as easy possible for anybody to be able to attend regardless of means.

Kutik73 · 30/06/2018 23:05

Shock[shockShock

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SwayingInTime · 30/06/2018 22:52

We are awarded money by the Choir School Association and one other body who seem to make it up every year and make you fill in a huuuge form and have someone visit you (to check you aren't hiding a supercar collection I presume) and then they have a meeting and then faff around some more and then ignore your emails for a bit and then maybe give the school some money, by which point theyve usually threatened legl action Shock. I am hoping the MDS are a bit more organised!

Kutik73 · 30/06/2018 22:25

Gosh, so we won't know how much we have to pay every year until this late?? That would be super stressful...

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SwayingInTime · 30/06/2018 22:23

Again with the fast typing!

...Very stressful.

SwayingInTime · 30/06/2018 22:22

And I hope your calculations prove correct, we are still waiting to hear for next year, it’s very st

SwayingInTime · 30/06/2018 22:21

I know that feeling Kutik! I actually meant outgoings not assets, was typing before thinking. I think there must be a wider range of financial situations among applicants now (compared to when the scheme began) mainly due to to house prices, especially in London.

Kutik73 · 30/06/2018 20:52

2nd Smile

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