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September Music Thread

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Wafflenose · 01/09/2017 01:01

Hello, and welcome to a new thread for September. This is a lovely, calm and supportive corner of Mumsnet where we can talk about everything to do with music lessons, exams, practice, auditions, and whatever else you like. Contributors of ALL standards and ages welcome. There are lots of experienced music parents on here, but we also have a steady stream of beginners, and the collective knowledge on here is impressive.

I'm Waffle, teacher of woodwind - mainly clarinet and recorder these days. My DH plays the guitar for fun. We have two DDs - sensitive, highly strung and accident-prone Goo (11) who plays the flute and piano, and starts secondary school next week, and laid back, funny Rara (9) who plays the cello and clarinet, and is also a reading machine.

There's not too much going on for us musically this term, apart from auditioning for NCO in October. My main priority will be getting Goo settled in a much bigger school, with a longer day, and she's getting there under her own steam, eek! Luckily for us, we don't have any music exams or secondary school entrance stuff going on, but I know that lots of you do. I am anticipating Grade 8 Flute and Grade 3 Clarinet next term, and Grade 5 Piano in the summer term. I've no idea if Rara will do any more cello exams after the drama of the last one! At the moment, she says she's sticking to the odd numbers. Nutcase.

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drummersmum · 19/09/2017 14:22

Strong no string! They also want strings I'm sure Grin

drummersmum · 19/09/2017 14:21

State schools with musi places are not about giving the opportunity to those without it. They want the best in their school and they want a music department string enough that justifies their selective places. Someone correct me if I am wrong please but I believe that's the case.

Wafflenose · 19/09/2017 14:16

I would have NO qualms about wearing it, and would actually tell the child to do so. This situation isn't relevant to us, as Goo has simply gone to the only available local school (!) but she doesn't need persuading to wear it anyway...

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Kutik73 · 19/09/2017 14:12

Xennialish, that's my fear exactly. The opportunity may be given to those who didn't have access. I also feel a bit sheepish that it may look like YES, I AM GREAT on his face by wearing it...

Trumpet, yes you have to fill a form before hand. I am considering to apply for three schools with music places. None of them asks achievements nor musical activities (not allowed). The one for the next week's audition asked to write down exam grade you took (not playing standard), and as DS has never taken any exam for violin that stayed blank... I wrote down his piano exam details but again it's when he was Year 4... Therefor, DH came up with the idea of wearing the hoodie.

Fleur, what's an agony! I totally understand your anger. That's simply not fair.

Trumpetboysmum · 19/09/2017 13:35

Kutik I agree with you I'm not sure - do you fill in an application form before these days if so they would hopefully already be aware of your ds's level and achievements. However ds would probably wear a hoody if he was going to an audition like that he often wears his to music related events I think it's kind of him not showing off as such ( well maybe !!) but showing others what he's about Smile

Xennialish · 19/09/2017 13:24

And grrr at fleur's potential misinformation. I am also intrigued by the eventual arrangement at these schools, sounds very difficult to judge and select within the rules (which I agree with generally) but I love that there is free specialist music input somewhere. I haven't heard anything more about the Halle free school plans which was a more extensive specialist school style offering. With regards to kutik's very understandable dilemma, if you are legitimately on the way to rcm I would wear it, otherwise perhaps not? I don't know, take it in a bag?! My feeling would be that they may direct places to those not benefiting from such opportunities already ... our local Halle ensembles do prioritise those not in full time music education... but that fear might be completely unfounded.

Fleurdelise · 19/09/2017 13:24

TheSecond then you must see my angry posts!

I am considering contacting the local news, it is the second year they've done it, last year they released the academic results a week early in error, then said they aren't the right results and then released the same results a week later torturing the parents a kids for a week.

The site is down for maintenance again which means they are re-updating it, hopefully I'll hear by the end of the day.

Xennialish · 19/09/2017 13:16

Alex, I am so sorry for your loss, whatever you plan will be beautiful I am sure.

Thank you for the nod to reply to @girlwhowearsglasses...dd is a chorister but they have to wear a standard school shirt under their cassocks to provide the white collar poking out the top as they ditched ruffs a while ago. Seems to be a good layer though. Also their cassocks are twill rather than heavy wool as the cathedral now has under floor heating (it's not a very big fancy one!). Anyway, I would advise a thin but all over layer and maybe a vest for the itchier bits but also that the cassocks may be ripe for a makeover during you time with the choir, having little kids hot and itchy isn't going to help!

Regards feeling overwhelmed, all sounds normal, dd hated leading in and apparently didn't open her mouth for the first 8 months (sound came out, but she should have gone into ventriloquism!). It's all wonderfully routine and easy now and the relationship between the choristers is very special.

ealingwestmum · 19/09/2017 12:18

Was about to give minifleur Stars but I am unsure as to what's gone on with the publishing debacle! Hope it all comes good Fleur!

drummersmum · 19/09/2017 12:16

Oh my, kutik. Your English is way better then mine Grin

Kutik73 · 19/09/2017 12:09

drummers, thanks for understanding my English! And thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'm taking notes.

Kutik73 · 19/09/2017 12:09

Taken into account

Sorry for my poor English...

drummersmum · 19/09/2017 12:07

kutik I would have your same doubts, but I agree with your DH.

Kutik73 · 19/09/2017 12:03

DH suggested DS should wear NCO or RCM hoodies to the audition where they don't allow children to perform (so it's down to purely aural and children are not allowed to discuss their instrument and standard). DS's point is that they are only human after all, so the fact a child belongs to such institutions/organisations would be taken account into their decision. I am not very sure. I feel it may have opposite effect.

Any opinion on this...?

Trumpetboysmum · 19/09/2017 11:27

I agree hope it all gets sorted soon fleur must be very stressful

TheSecondOfHerName · 19/09/2017 11:21

That's awful! 😲
I really think that whatever the correct results, they should honour the original results they published and offer an audition to every child who they originally said qualified for one.

They should also apologise for making an error which messes with ten year olds' hopes and plans for the next seven years.

drummersmum · 19/09/2017 11:18

Alex so sorry about news, sending all my love Flowers
Fleur that's so so so unacceptable!!!!!!!!!.
kutik I will pm you details regarding next week's audition.
girlwho welcome and hope someone can help you, DS has never been a chorister!

TheSecondOfHerName · 19/09/2017 11:16

I will go and look now. The thread was started by a friend of mine.

Fleurdelise · 19/09/2017 10:56

TheSecond are you following what is happening with the consortium on FB?! I am so pissed off Angry (excuse my language).

I'll come back and explain later but basically they have withdrawn the results saying they may not have been correct and they shouldn't have been published yesterday. They were live for hours!!!

Kutik73 · 19/09/2017 10:31

Fleur, thanks for your kind support.

I applied for the music place at the open day yesterday so no details for the procedure yet. They said they would send out the details early next week. But I feel it's not going to be MAT from what I overheard. Some aural like ABRSM, and a short performance of your choice. So it sounds a bit like your DD's second round audition.

I am visiting the school requiring MAT this week. If DS and I like the school, then I'll beg my auntie Fleur for some practice advice!

At the moment, the school with MAT is my first choice as I liked what I heard about the school. I am hoping I still like it when I visit it. The school DS is auditioning next Friday is decent enough for what we could get but doesn't tick all the boxes. So I am hoping the school with MAT would be 'the one'. No child went to the school with MAT from our primary school, so it'll be a huge gamble, but still nice to have a choice.

Kutik73 · 19/09/2017 10:14

Alex, I'm very sorry for your loss. Your DS is so sweet that he tried to make her happy with his music. Sorry no helpful suggestion for the funeral music, but hope you'll find something special for your mum.

se22mother · 18/09/2017 23:36

Alex sorry for your loss.

Fleur well done and hopefully the audition will be straightforward.

Fleurdelise · 18/09/2017 22:56

So sorry to hear about your loss Alex, condolences! Sad

Thanks all and thank you for the detail TheSecond. Annoyingly they didn't post the appointments and now myself (and the entire 11+ forum Grin) are worrying the results were wrong. Basically it only said the pass mark and dd's marks, then the audition venue but no appointment date and time. The site is now down for maintenance which makes me believe they're updating it.

Icouldbeknitting · 18/09/2017 22:54

Alexandra I am so sorry. I have nothing helpful to offer regarding music, when my father died and then my father in law there was so much going on that I have no idea who chose the music or what it was. It was just a case of getting the family through the day.

TheSecondOfHerName · 18/09/2017 22:53

Just seen on the local Facebook thread that the consortium forgot to give any of the successful MAT candidates a time for their audition slot.

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