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NCO 2018

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stringchild · 23/08/2017 19:07

The new annual thread for those interested and/or auditioning! Ask questions, update your news - lots of nco parents on board and those hoping to be :)

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Doubleup · 26/09/2017 22:42

We finally have a date and time for DD2's audition; I did put the application in after all! I was beginning to doubt myself Smile

Nigglenotes · 25/09/2017 19:50

Just got our moved audition day and time confirmed!

DD is practising her pieces every day. She did ask me if I would be disappointed if she didn't get in, but I said they would be crazy not to pick her, but also that many children started playing at a much younger age (DD started at 8 and turns 10 shortly).

violinistmum · 21/09/2017 14:25

I was mostly worried about position shifts and more complicated rhythms in the SR, but sounds like that DS can wait a couple of years to experience that joy!

violinistmum · 21/09/2017 14:20

Great tip Wafflenose. I'll try that too!

Wafflenose · 21/09/2017 13:56

When I'm preparing children for Under 10s now, I have them learn a whole Grade 3 piece (a page or so) for the five minute one. They come out laughing when they see how much shorter and easier the real one is!

violinistmum · 21/09/2017 13:55

Thank you Wafflenose. That's much appreciated. Wow, what a superstar to memorise her SR and play it back to you! My little man should be ok with that...although you never can tell how it will go on the day Smile

Wafflenose · 21/09/2017 13:40

Hello, the harder (5 minute preparation time) sight reading for Under 10s is one line of a piece between Grade 1 and 2 level - more early Grade 2 if I had to swing one way or the other. The unprepared (30 seconds to look at it in the room) is also one line, but easier. I can say this with every confidence, because I have overheard my own daughter preparing the harder one when she was younger, and I had a pupil get in one year. She had a phenomenal memory, and came out and played both pieces of sight reading to me from memory, which was so helpful!

The standard for Training will be similar, or perhaps a bit easier if they are feeling nice.

violinistmum · 21/09/2017 13:35

Hello everyone. I found this discussion whilst searching for info on the NCO auditions. My sons violin teacher thought he should audition for the training orchestra, but TBH I'm a bit concerned about the level expected in sight reading. Does anyone know if the sight reading looks similiar to what they are given in ABRSM grades, and if so, which grade should his sight reading be comfortably at for training orch? Looks like a great experience - just hope he can manage the sight reading part!

Wafflenose · 21/09/2017 08:02

Surprisingly, we have heard already, so a fraction over one month's notice! Thanks, NCO! Goo isn't remotely interested in choosing her pieces, or practising though.

TaggieOHara · 17/09/2017 21:45

Double up - I have already been through a changing audition date palava, so know that DS2 will be on 30/10. We haven't had a slot yet.

Thanks all for sharing your opinions and thoughts up thread on U10 violin audition pieces. After much agonising, I have decided he will play the 3rd movement of the Vivaldi A minor and Liebesleid. He started the Vivaldi properly this week and is getting on well. However, he has very little practice time now, because of chorister commitments, so it may be that this year is more for experience (his and mine!).

Doubleup · 14/09/2017 21:58

DD2 is due to audition on bassoon in the second half of October. I'm assuming it would be for U11 due to the change to school year ages, so she'd be repeating that. One of her friends from the last two years would be the same, but the other would be U12. Preparation is mixed here with 11+ coming up and a school residential week next week.

Pieces are (I think) the second movement from the Hurlstone Sonata in F and the 4th movement from Telemann Sonatina in A minor. I say 'I think' as her teacher changed one of her pieces the day before the audition for U10, so anything is possible!

The longer it takes for the e-mail to come, the more I doubt myself that I actually put the entry in....

Nigglenotes · 12/09/2017 22:09

Thanks Waffle, I will have a think about how to do this without giving offence or appearing to be overprotective / neuromummy. Not easy!

Wafflenose · 12/09/2017 22:08

Hmm, that's a shame. Is that for both instruments? I wonder if there might be space somewhere else for at least one of them?

We're not expecting to hear for a few more weeks.

Nigglenotes · 12/09/2017 22:05

That's unfortunate, String, could you email and ask to change?

stringchild · 12/09/2017 21:57

so audition slots arrived but not on day we asked for and when we have a (shared) accompaniast for...

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Wafflenose · 12/09/2017 21:56

I would have to have a word with the teacher, and have done in the past, out of DD's earshot.

Nigglenotes · 12/09/2017 21:55

It's Sarabande in g minor. Lovely piece!

Nigglenotes · 12/09/2017 21:53

It's not specific to scales, it's anything and starts out of nowhere. DD was tearful. And she has a stutter, so is very sensitive in a verbally challenging situation. The thing is, it is clear within 15 seconds that she won't speak so letting the moment extend so horribly is useless. Now, I just break in with a comment, etc, as I can feel DD literally shivelling. It would be so easy for the teacher to adjust the atmosphere. DD bounced in and left deflated, but played well.. and she's only 9.

Maybe that's the price for a good teacher.

Anyway, six weeks until audition. Gadfly is probably the second piece, so lots of vibrato practice!

se22mother · 12/09/2017 21:38

Niggle is that perpetual motion ?

Wafflenose · 12/09/2017 21:10

Have reported my first post, and re-written the relevant bit for here!

Wafflenose · 12/09/2017 21:09

We have this from the cello teacher, but after 3.5 years she has realised that Rara is a borderline selective mute, and when uncomfortable will totally clam up and sometimes cry. Teacher has learnt to change tack before that happens. She wanted her to hum today, which Rara can't do in front of an audience, so I joined in. It was mostly me and the teacher, but Rara got the idea!

If it's specific to scales, is it worth briefing your DD to play through the scale before answering the question, or at least play through it mentally?

Wafflenose · 12/09/2017 21:09

Oops, I have just realised this is the NCO thread. Sorry. As you were! (I'll go back to the monthly thread now)

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Nigglenotes · 12/09/2017 20:51

Just had a lesson. Decided on a Karl Bohm piece, it was a grade 6 ABRSM piece years ago. It has double stops, which are newish to DD, but so far, so good.

Waffle, I have to ask you, as you are a music teacher, but our teacher does a particular thing which drives me a bit nuts, and has done since the beginning. She is a good teacher, obviously. DD has had nothing but Distinctions in just under two years. For example, the piece is in G minor, and the finger positions are quite different on each string, with the addition of accidentals.

So she asks DD where is her position for the third finger on the g string, DD says natural. What about the d string, etc. Anyway, this questioning got DD thinking she had done something wrong, and that her answers might be wrong, so of course she then became completely silent and looked very uncomfortable. Long silences, more uncomfortable. At that stage she is not thinking about the notes, but that this is torture and the opposite of fun.

Anyway, I try to break the atmosphere, and say, Well, DD, you know your G minor, so this is a trick question, as it is where you know it is. She smiles in weak relief.

I know we have a good teacher. But the long tense silences when this happens are just so unnecessary. DD feels belittled and confused. I have brought this up once before with her teacher and she said the silence allows her to know what DD knows and doesn't know. This is simply not true, as by then DD is in a tunnel of despair. It just seems so unnecessary.

Er, apart from that, brilliant teacher!

Wafflenose · 12/09/2017 19:22

We're easing Goo back in with 15 minutes per day, and she's probably doing a similar amount on the piano. I daren't mention the audition!!