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Boys not allowed at school ballet class

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chocolateisnecessary · 29/12/2016 12:57

So - a mum at the school has started a ballet class after school for reception and won't admit boys.
She keeps giving different reasons - it's art not sport, boys don't stick with it, they need to be trained differently etc.
The teachers take the girls to the hall at the end of the day before pick up so he's very aware he's not going. Basically, he's in floods each week.
I spoke to the head who said it's a hire and not school policy so there's nothing she can do.
I think that's wrong, that there should be an equal ops policy that they push through with hires.
Does anyone have any knowledge on this before I go see her again?

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dodobookends · 30/12/2016 22:34

Just because you've done something yourself, it doesn't mean you are automatically any good at teaching other people to do it.

chocolateisnecessary · 30/12/2016 18:39

The odd thing is she's a choreographer and a former dancer. Not sure she's following any syllabus though.

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Heratnumber7 · 30/12/2016 18:36

Chilly -
"a girl's only space? Pity it's so pink and fluffy hmm"

What does that mean? What's pink and fluffy?

littlepinkmouseofsugar · 30/12/2016 17:47

I'd suspect if it's a mum running it that it may be a tad amateurish? A professional dance teacher would always welcome boys and encourage them to dance as ballet is not just for girls. I'd follow up and check out local dance classes where there are other boys - older ones to have as role models as well as boys his age in his class.

Also there are a few ballet things on the BBC at the mo on i-player if he's keen on watching ballet - cbeebies has the Hare and tortoise on, plus there are several other documentaries which maybe he might want to see bits of - Margot Fonteyn, Darcey Bussell, The nutcracker, Ballet Boyz etc.

chocolateisnecessary · 29/12/2016 20:06

Ooh, will check out! @DPotter I'd be amazed if not! That hire info is useful. I'd assumed schools had to do it as standard.

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Chelazla · 29/12/2016 19:06

So strange were discussing this a program has just come on channel 4 about boys dancing!!

DPotter · 29/12/2016 18:49

I hire facilities from a local authority and I have signed a contract to the effect I will abide by their equal ops policies etc. so the head's excuse is rubbish.
I think its brilliant your son wants to learn ballet. Just watched West Side Story (again!) and the dancing is so wonderful - athletic, balletic and expressive. Bet Matt Whitlock has had ballet lessons!

smellyboot · 29/12/2016 18:42

And the school should have an equal opps policy for all children, for everything. They have a wider responsibility to teach children that they can explore all sports and activites regardless of being a boy or girl, black or white etc I do no see that a 4 year old boy who wants to dance is so different to a girl who wants to. Same as girls are just as good at footy and rugby at that age

HappyFlappy · 29/12/2016 18:36

Absolutely!

Boys in dancing classes, let alone ballet, are like hen's teeth.

Normally teachers grab 'em with both hands and work like hell to keep them. It's not like ballet is a cushy number - they work very hard and have be very, very fit.

And even if he did decide he wanted to drop our=t - do all of the girls stay? Do they @rse!

smellyboot · 29/12/2016 18:32

I would be fuming and would take it all the way.... sexist awful discrimination

GingerHollyandIvy · 29/12/2016 18:28

Does your ds only want to go because his friends are going? That's not really a good enough reason if so.

What?? At age 4/5, children often choose what clubs they want to attend based on what their friends are choosing. For that matter, they still are doing that years later!

user789653241 · 29/12/2016 18:27

I really do agree that OP is PC in this matter. But I really wonder if pursuing it worth it? Yes, I get that you want to teach your child to stand up to right and wrong. But worst case scenario, the mum decide to quit teaching at school, school wouldn't be happy for losing income, other parents wouldn't be happy that they lost their dds' ballet class.

Titsalinabumsquash · 29/12/2016 18:26

Absolutely fight it, how dare she exclude him just because he's a boy and so what if he wants to join because all his friends are there? If the girls wanted to join because of that reason they'd be welcomed with open arms!

I had the same fight to be able to play on the football team when I was at school, I was better than all the boys but still our sexist arse of a headteacher thought it was improper for a girl to be on the football team. My mum backed me 100% and eventually they changed the rules, I didn't feel like i could get my own way whenever I wanted I felt like I had made a small victory for girls in our school and I felt supported by my parents with something I felt strongly about, it didn't matter about the outside teams I was allowed to join.

Shallishanti · 29/12/2016 18:20

Billy Elliot
that's all

ElizaSchuyler · 29/12/2016 18:18

Some boys enjoy twirling and pretending to be princes. Equally a girl in dds class chose tobe a soldier in ballet class when they were little.

chocolateisnecessary · 29/12/2016 18:14

@outandin okay to risk the label or nothing would ever change. (Phone going crazy - sorry!)

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chocolateisnecessary · 29/12/2016 18:14

@outandin ...planning on being lovely and not going in all guns blazing. I agree with whippet tho, I think on some stuff it's

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Keeptrudging · 29/12/2016 18:13

DS was the only boy in his ballet class at that age. His teacher had no problem teaching him, but she was an excellent, highly qualified teacher. I'd put him elsewhere.

hippyhippyshake · 29/12/2016 18:13

I imagine the mum has some pink leotards and girly dress up costumes and they are going to twirl and point and do princessy things. Does your ds only want to go because his friends are going? That's not really a good enough reason if so. If he wants to do ballet a proper ballet school would be better. If you continue to push for gender equality (albeit correctly) the mum will just pull out of the club.

chocolateisnecessary · 29/12/2016 18:12

@outandin I guess for me this is big. I've let other stuff go. I'm p

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chocolateisnecessary · 29/12/2016 18:11

@chez I see your point. But I do want him to learn that if something's wrong, you do your best to change it and you fight for what you believe in. And yes, that it sometimes might not work, but you try.

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chocolateisnecessary · 29/12/2016 18:09

@ginger Yes, they do.

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chocolateisnecessary · 29/12/2016 18:09

@molly The male audience figures for ballet in this country are appalling!

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chocolateisnecessary · 29/12/2016 18:08

@eliza Yeah, that's all legal! No one is being stopped/not allowed to do anything.
I think you're right re the teacher and questions.

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Chillywhippet · 29/12/2016 18:04

The quite serious dance school my DS went to had one all boys class a week. It was a chance for the boys of all grades to practise together once a week. All the other classes were entirely girls or had just one boy in so it was great for him to dance with older boys. They rehearsed some chorus parts for the shows and they did some strength training too relating to moves the older boys were working towards.

But the girls weren't excluded from the school by that class existing.

Op I think it's ok to be one of those mums when you need or want to be. Otherwise we risk being back in that playground pressure to conform all over again Wink

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