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Guiders Staff Room Part 3

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Groovee · 08/11/2016 17:51

Reconvening over here ladies.

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Heratnumber7 · 01/12/2018 21:35

I agree. But Guiding, and The Law will tell you that that is no excuse. You must have explicit (not implicit, inferred by you because they have contacted you) a parent's permission to store their contact details outside of GO on a personal device.

I have been on Region GDPR training today Grin

drspouse · 01/12/2018 21:30

@Heratnumber7 your phone will store the number unless you delete all incoming and outgoing messages which is a bit pointless.

I've not tried using email directly from Go but you can't send attachments can you? So again you'll have to use your computer - which saves recent addresses - and you'll get replies to your email address so you'll have their address anyway.

Heratnumber7 · 01/12/2018 21:17

The app used by Scouts has been banned by Guiding. I suspect because they spent a lot of money developing GO.

As for this it's impossible to text or email parents without storing their number.

You need specific, opt in, permission from parents to store their number on your phone. We've got a record of all our parents' approval for this and we check at the start of every new year.

You can email parents directly from GO. You shouldn't store them on your pc.

It's all a PITA, and I suspect many Leaders ignore the rules. You'd be silly to trust a third party app though.

Heratnumber7 · 01/12/2018 21:10

You can use Survey Monkey for voting buttons. Or EventBrite.

drspouse · 01/12/2018 19:42

@Heratnumber7 well, it's impossible to text or email parents without storing their number.
But no, don't use another database.

Gonzales27 · 01/12/2018 19:22

Herat the app I was looking for sends texts and emails out to parents with voting buttons for "yes I can attend" and "no I can't". It then provides automatic summaries with the lists or yes and no to the administrator.

Was hoping that GO might do that too. I know the scouts/cubs/beavers in my area use a similar system. Maybe it's something that might be available in the future for GO.

Gonzales27 · 01/12/2018 19:18

Sorry, didn't mean to get off on the wrong foot here. Was just hoping to use whatever I am allowed to use to be as efficient as possible from day one! Of course I will be taking GDPR and safeguarding very seriously (I did mention that in my previous post).

Heratnumber7 · 01/12/2018 18:42

Sorry. You CAN email from go.

What do you want to track?

Heratnumber7 · 01/12/2018 18:42

No. But that doesn't mean you can use another system.
Guiding will take a very dim view and you will be contravening your duty of care to your girls. Possibly GDPR too as you cannot guarantee their personal data would be safe.

Gonzales27 · 01/12/2018 15:25

I haven't seen the GO system yet. Can you use it for text/email notifications and tracking?

Heratnumber7 · 01/12/2018 15:19

DO NOT STORE CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION ANYWHERE ELSE BUT GO!!

Seriously, you have no idea how secure that system is.

Groovee · 01/12/2018 10:34

That is what the GO system is for, all the details are kept on there.

I have a column on my register for marking off who pays subs and Tawny Owl writes the receipts and then dates in it a carbon copy book when received. If paying cash I get them to put it in a named envelope.

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Gonzales27 · 01/12/2018 08:43

Programming sounds serious !!!

Does anyone use an online account to keep parents details and manage communications?

I've found one called "Teamer" that is a free app in your phone. It records all members details and events and sends text and email notifications and collates responses. It also creates a website with space for blogs etc and a calendar listing all events. I've tested it out with some dummy data and it seems amazing!

It apparently also manages subs and processes the collection of subs if you link it to a bank account , but I'm a bit nervous about that.

Also slightly worried about storing all patents details on an online account. Only the leader can see the details but not sure from a GDPR point of view.

Heratnumber7 · 30/11/2018 16:03

Programme planning needs a good spreadsheet!

There are rules about bank accounts - eg you need one that offers a dual mandate facility.

There is LOADS of information on the Guiding website, including a template to do your accounts. it's very helpful and you don't need a password.

Good luck, and thank you very much for volunteering.

Becles · 29/11/2018 23:59

Do the new programme online training, visitna couple of other units and remember to leave space for other activities.

InflagranteDelicto · 29/11/2018 23:34

Wow, congrats!

I have an email account dedicated to my unit. That means the other leaders can also access it without any compromise to my privacy. Its also easier to ignore emails if now isn't a good time! We (leaders) chat in a WhatsApp group.

Programme planning.... Remember less is more 😂 (I'm still learning that!) IF you've got time at the end, have a couple of games up your sleeve. Or colouring sheets.

And welcomeSmile

Gonzales27 · 29/11/2018 21:17

Hi everyone. Some of you helpfully responded to my other thread where I asked for advice about whether to become a rainbows leader.

The good news is that it looks like it's going to happen.

There are going to be three of us running it, two training for qualification (me and one other mum) and another qualified leader. The qualified leader has just moved to the area and is very motivated but confessed that she has never been the main leader before.

We're going to start properly mid January. (There are a couple of other local leaders filling in until Christmas but it's been a bit chaotic).

We already have loads of ideas about activities and about how we are going to run things more smoothly but I am really keen to get your tips on how to manage the admin/banking/communications side of it all.

We need it to be as easy as possible and I'm keen to embrace whatever technology I can to make it easy.

I'm grateful for any ideas you can throw at me!

Thank you Thanks

Groovee · 28/11/2018 20:37

To make matters worse my job share told the rest to use PVG glue with Hmm looks from them all 😂

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InflagranteDelicto · 28/11/2018 18:28

Grin😂Grin

Groovee · 28/11/2018 17:07

When you've spent a meeting learning about PVG's (DBS's in Scotland) and you tell your leaders to use PVG glue instead of PVA

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InflagranteDelicto · 28/11/2018 08:53

Hello MTB. Welcome.

Yesterday I learnt that if you have cornflour gloop for a skill builder the YLs enjoy it more than the brownies. Also that if you substitute salt for play sand it's equally a bugger to get up off the floor!

MTBMummy · 27/11/2018 14:17

Thank you, just catching up on this thread, it's lovely to see people with the same thoughts and issues and some amazing ideas on here too.

Groovee · 27/11/2018 12:53

Welcome @MTBMummy

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Becles · 27/11/2018 12:03

Welcome @MTBMummy

MTBMummy · 27/11/2018 11:41

Hi, may I join in please? Relatively new (less than 12 months) Brownie leader.

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