New Year Music and Musicians Thread

In the area where I am in no, they don't have to clear the 11+. So let's say they take the 11+ test (academic) and the music test. Then you apply for both a music place and an academic one. If the DC "fails" the 11+ but gets good marks for the music test they will be offered one of the music places.

That doesn't mean they are expected to become musicians, they will follow the same academic curriculum requirements but they will be expected to participate also in all the music activities such as school assemblies, choir, music lesson etc.

But they don't need to pass both 11+ and the music test, they will only be offered a place either on academics or music.

Thanks Fleurdelise for clearing this doubt, I thought Music scholarship is like you are forced to take musician line. Just to make things clear: it is just for scholarship, they still have to clear 11+ entrance ?

But each school have different requirements with regards to the level/grade DCs need to be to be offered a place. In the area where I live there have been instances where a grade 5 DC didn't get offered a place while a grade 3 did. In this area there is a music test and then if you get enough points the DC does an audition. So a DC can be grade 5 but not pass the initial test therefore not qualifying for the audition. If the DC does pass the initial test I would assume that a higher grade would have a better chance to get a place when they audition.

Schools that have the 11+ entrance exams also have music scholarship so besides taking the 11+ exam the DCs can also apply for music scholarship for the same school. They can be offered either a music scholarship or an academic place. It doesn't mean they have to become musicians, it just gives them more chances to get a place at the school they apply for.

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I am not from/in UK but I understand 11+ exams thing but I want to know why do they need G5 in 2 instrument+ G5 theory if you are choosing musical lines ( assuming kids are too small and we don't know what they will like to do in future as profession)?

The AB told me that any theory fails that are within 10 marks of passing are double checked before marks are released so I think it's better to not hold out any hopes of a re-mark helping , unfortunately

Thanks new, one of the schools she has her heart set on is super, super selective so we do need two instruments at G5 plus G5 theory....I honestly wouldn't have thought one year ago we were in contention so this is all fairly new!

Prada, just in case it helps, DS was offered a music scholarship at all the schools he applied to and he had not sat G5 theory yet.

Thanks How!

Just wanted to add my best wishes for next time Prada. DD1 says having done grade 5 theory made doing the aural and even sight reading easier, so maybe you will be killing 2 birds at once with the extra prep.

Thanks everyone! As I said it was a long shot that she would pass with minimal lessons....Issue with remarking appears to be timing as the time it will take to get remarked might take us out of time for the deadline to apply for the Summer exam. I do think that the resit might allow more musicianship knowledge so no bad thing I think. Scholarship auditions start mainly in Dec and Jan so we have time, just wanted to get this away before the 11+ work starts in the summer term for Sept exam. We are in an area where competition is fierce for indie schools and we are just out of catchment for grammar so possible to get a place but she would have to be in the top 5% or so which I think she will be but it is not guaranteed and I want to reduce any pressure on her. Music Scholarships just give her another angle and having G5 theory will definitely help with the audition process just will take up the extra time we had set aside to use for sight reading / aural etc. thank you all for the supportive comments!

Prada - if your DD is applying for scholarships etc, then I would get a remark, as they will probably ask whether she has grade 5 theory yet.

Only 2 marks, its soooo close! I would def ask for a remark then the choice of resit is up to me. I would tell my daughter that she didnt study for it hard enough, it needs more time. This with hope she wont feel like a failure rather than the fact that she needs more time(and properly works harder and its a very hard exam) which might help with her actually preparation for 11+(a little wake up call with no damage?).

I am also feeling dreadful as we will be in your position in couple of years time. Big hugs from us!!!

Waffle, you probably already knew this but Goo was well on the way to a distinction with those practice papers! Well done to her.
Prada, Fleur has a point. I'd probably go for the remark to try a get a pass...In the long run, it won't matter whether she got a pass or a merit in her theory, will it? On the other hand, if you think she could benefit from the learning - DS learnt a lot from his theory classes in terms of musicianship - then maybe it's worth resitting and having some extra preparation.

Sorry to hear that prada. I guess it depends if you want her to resit it and get merit or distinction or you just want a pass. If you just want a pass it would be worth a remarking.

I would probably go for the remarking to just get a pass but it depends what your DD future plans are.

Thanks Waffle and Ealingmum. Think we are going to go for a resit with a structured approach as she literally only had a couple of crammer lessons for the exam so not bad really . Who knows, maybe she'll pull off a merit next time.... I did have a minor heart attack thinking she'd miss the next date because of a pre-booked hol but it's the 18th June so we re ok....phew!

Congratulations to all on the theory results! Prada, what a shame, so close too, but understand your dilemma over the next 2 terms full of other exam & audition pressures. Good luck if you go for a re-mark...

Well done Goo! We got a 64....arrgggh! It was a tall order grade 3 to grade 5 in a term so I am less surprised that her piano teacher but it being ok to fail at this age is no bad thing I think. Before I break it to her, has anyone had a remark before? She has grade 5 piano next term and I am trying to avoid exam overload. We might find the two marks maybe? (Clutches at straws) Autumn term is out of the question due to school entrance exams plus scholarship auditions etc...

BIG Congrats to Goo. super results.

Well done Goo!

Just came to say theory results are coming through but you already know.

Yaay ! Well done goo!

Many congrats to Goo, a very big fat distinction indeed, what a star!!!