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Guiders Staff Room Part 2

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Groovee · 30/09/2015 12:56

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/extracurricularr_activities/715087-Guiders-39-staff-room-tea-wine-chat-and-optional-dancing

Part one above, new thread for when required x

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InflagranteDelicto · 09/08/2016 08:54

Hmm... Tricky one.

How supportive would your DC be?
How likely is he to turn up during meetings?
Would you now need to bring your girls to meetings (if they're not in that section)
What support do you think you might need to keep meetings running for the next few weeks/months?

On balance I think I'd let her know the current situation, more as a heads up than anything.

lucysmam · 08/08/2016 23:11

Quick question - some of you have seen my thread in Chat...

Do I tell my dc?

lucysmam · 08/08/2016 22:01

My head is too thrashed to help out with anything like that at the mo drspouse but I do hope it doesn't drag on too much more.

Good news amongst the absolute pile of crap that has been my weekend...gift aid claim is set up. I just need to get my head around actually claiming at some point now. That might take me a while.

drspouse · 08/08/2016 12:27

PS I have done Brownies before (and Rainbows!) and at one unit we had a very short six time but at the others we've just split into sixes for different activities, but also into Adventure groups, flexibly.

drspouse · 08/08/2016 12:16

Yes we may delay the first meeting of term too, especially if we are down on leaders but not fatally down.

The other issue is that we have 1. mum who made main complaint and is totally identifiable and who we were kind of thinking of asking to go elsewhere anyway, who we will tell the Commissioner to tell to go the jeff elsewhere as we don't want to see her again thanks. but also we have 2. second mum who is BFF with first mum but is actually generally nice (we thought!) and who has more than one girl in her family (so if they stay we have them for years) but who was in theory "anonymous" in the complaint:
so do we ask the Commissioner to tell her they can have places elsewhere, do we pretend we don't know it was her (so she can see how horrified, we assume, the other parents will be!), or do we not announce anything to her because we know she knows what was going on.

InflagranteDelicto · 08/08/2016 10:04

Oh dear, that's rough. Sounds a good plan, it'll buy you some time to plan what you are all going to do. All ok Beccles?

In response to the social media question, I've now got photo permission confirmed one way or another for three quarters of my girls, but no way would I post pics on fb of them. My own two, on my own page, maybe. We have a secret fb group which is jolly handy for communication. I'll c&p emails onto it, as well as reminders for water bottles while cursing the one parent who's crap at checking emails and is having an fb break!

One thing that occurred to me recently, and should have occurred much sooner, was to ensure both parents are in the emailing list in the case of separated parents, especially when there's a restraining order preventing one contacting the other!

Need to get in the hall and tidy the black hole aka the cupboard. Not sure when that'll happen!

For Brownie leaders, do you have six time? How do you fit it in your meeting? Just pondering different meeting ideas.

drspouse · 07/08/2016 22:16

Had the response the commissioner is going to send. No part of the complaint was upheld. Which is good. But the other leaders still have to face the parents at school even if they don't come back to the unit.
So they are still all reconsidering their involvement. We are planning to circulate something neutral to the other parents saying we've had this happen and obviously it has been really shocking for us so please bear with us while we get our heads round what to do next.

Groovee · 03/08/2016 14:16

Drspouse Sad

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drspouse · 03/08/2016 11:40

Still no resolution here, got an email from the commissioner with no attachments (oops) so still in limbo! Have been putting off doing everything including accounts, returning lost kit, as I have no idea what's happening or which families I'm not supposed to talk to.

lucysmam · 02/08/2016 21:38

Busily sewing away this week...Build a Bear sized uniforms as a little bit of fundraising using up some scraps I already had & was unlikely to use again. Just glad only 6 wanted them as I'm completely out of the red.

Debating whether to offer them yearly over the summer hols as a bit of a boost. They don't take long once I get going & a few parents are kicking themselves for buying for over a tenner on ebay rather than a fiver to us.

Had a neighbour ask to use my internet to register her dd yesterday. Her friend's dd is in our unit and having a ball Grin.

bombayflambe · 02/08/2016 11:57

I'm struggling to finish up the accounts for end of term camp but am generally anjoying the break.
DrSpouse and Becles...hope you are both OK and not too disheartened by whatever's going on with your girls' parents ;-)

Groovee · 02/08/2016 08:11

Oh Becles

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Jugglingballs65 · 01/08/2016 22:30

That doesnt sound good

lucysmam · 01/08/2016 22:29

Oh dear Becles, that's not good :(

Becles · 01/08/2016 22:25

😑 ¥@%$*€ PARENTS!!!!

Groovee · 26/07/2016 08:41

I don't have parents from work or brownies on my FB, unless they were already friends. We have a FB secret group for brownies. But on my own page for work would be disregarding my work's social media policy.

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lucysmam · 25/07/2016 22:47

Oh dear, might it be worth going higher up?

Our DC's are really good (two plus DivCom who all just muck in on everything together)...I'm quite dreading someone else having their turn tbh.

Definitely call her on it if she does - they're not her kids to post photo's of. I have two good friends who occasionally post pics for me to see what my girls are up to if they are round at theirs. Other than that I don't expect to randomly see someone else post my kids on fb & would be most unimpressed if I did.

Traintrackmad · 25/07/2016 22:31

It seems we are on the same page over this. She hasn't put them up yet, but if she does I will call her on it.

Ask the DC to have a word, haha. I've sent three emails informing her of different things in the past few weeks and haven't had a response from any of them. She seems to have fallen of the planet, she isn't on holiday and has been seen socialising in the town (out for coffee, lunch, drinks in the evening). Just ignoring guiding issues it seems. (Rainbow Guider has had a massive problem she is struggling through on her own with it as DC is ignoring messages).
Thanks for your input lucysmam, I appriciate a second opinion.

lucysmam · 25/07/2016 21:55

It is handy, I still get the odd text to double check things but most use it. & I regularly update. Even down to mundane stuff like "it's hot...bring a water bottle" and "remember sensible shoes so we can run around like loons" Grin 'cos you can guarantee if one stops for a drink they all want one and someone would end up losing a flip flop kicking it into the rafters knowing my luck.

Only one parent has posted one photo tbf.

I disagree with pics going on personal fb pages though - my dd is in my unit atm but if there were other Rainbows in a picture with her then it wouldn't go up. Same as I wouldn't post any taken at school (assemblies where they get awards I try and get one of the certificate or whatever being handed over to show their dad) because the rest of the kids aren't mine to post.

Is it worth a reminder that they really shouldn't be up for public viewing? See what sort of response you get? Or ask DC to have a word about it being inappropriate?

Sorry...epic posts there Blush

traintrackmad · 25/07/2016 21:41

I have toyed with opening a Facebook page for the group for the things you describe. I am fed up of parents losing letters and texting for information, that could be posted on a Facebook page so they knew what was going on. But I wouldn't want photos on there of the girls, for all the reasons I'm sure you know.
I don't get why someone would think it is ok to post photos of the girls on their fab page, that is what I'm struggling with. (I always wonder if I'm so funny about this as I work in early years and this issue has been massive recently).

lucysmam · 25/07/2016 21:32

I use our fb group solely to communicate with parents - reminders, updates (Queen's birthday cards & things I've brought home rather than the girls taking type things) updates on progress with the bear uniforms I'm making, odd summery pic of Bluebell (Build a Bear) for parents to show their girls.

I don't put up pics of the girls and have stated that if they want to post their own photo's that's fine but ONLY their own girls so if there are group photo's then they don't go up. And their photo's are not my responsibility.

It took me a lot of dithering about the photo thing tbh, I set the group up & don't want to be held responsible if (for eg.) someone went on hols & a photo of their Rainbow had been sold on by fb so have made it as clear as I can that that is their own lookout.

I rarely post any pics of my own girls either though. & certainly wouldn't pop Rainbows pics on my own fb for everyone to see.

Traintrackmad · 25/07/2016 21:08

Hi, I've Used my name change name for this, only because one of my parents possibly uses this bit of the site and I don't want to be outed.

Do you post pictures of your girls on your personal social media (Fb) page? Do you think that it is appropriate for Guiders to do this? We have talked about it at district meetings and the general consensus was that it wasn't best practise. I've checked the guiding website and it says about having written permission. All the girls on the set of photos do have photo permission for social media in their starting brownies form, but this is mainly luck rather than her checking (I have six who can't be put on social media).(apparently she has asked the parents if it is ok, but not had a response from one) I generally let parents take photos at unit events and make them aware not to post them online, but if the Guiders start posting them I don't feel I can argue with parents about this. (Guider in question seems to find the new parents on Fb pretty much as soon as they start at brownies, (I would rather keep them at arms length, they don't need to know my personal life), so could then see that she posts photos.

She has already posted pictures in the past and begrudgingly taken them down when I told her to, but obviously hasn't taken in what I said or we wouldn't be having the discussion again.
I think my concerns are wide, I don't think it's professional or gives a good safeguarding impression, I don't want parents thinking it's ok to do this and I don't want her thinking it is acceptable and know that if I let her do it this time, she will do it again, maybe catching the wrong child in her photo and causing a big row for me to deal with the parent if they kick off (which they would have every right to do). I also don't get why she would put photos of them on her Facebook. (I trust her, but I don't know her friends or her privacy settings etc).
What do you all think?

lucysmam · 24/07/2016 19:27

Hmmm, new unit helper's email address is not working but was fine when we arranged for her to visit

Was trying to send her next term's plan to have a look at since she missed our planning meeting (which consists of me and my AL supervising my kids and her dgd playing on the front while we have a chat).

Bit annoying.

lucysmam · 22/07/2016 18:38

Ah yes, the craft scraps we keep "just in case" Grin. I have numerous odds and sods in my cupboard which will probably never see the light of day again but I've left them for the mo "just in case"

Becles · 21/07/2016 23:40

Cupboard tidy is scheduled for next week. How the craft odds breed I really don't know.

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