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Can I teach myself the flute?

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zen1 · 22/06/2015 19:41

Two of my DCs have recently begun to learn instruments (clarinet and euphonium) and I have gone and impulse-bought a flute on ebay with the intention of teaching myself. As a child / teenager I played the clarinet, recorder and piano, but gave up because I felt I wasn't learning for myself (made to do an hour of practise every day when I was quite young). I got to quite a good standard on the clarinet and recorder. Anyway, I now feel I want to play an instrument just for myself and settled on the flute. Will I get very far without having a teacher?

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Ketchuphidestheburntbits · 02/07/2015 15:52

It's a good idea to have a couple of lessons to start you off as pp have said. I would also suggest that you get a flute teacher to check the flute that you have bought because they sometimes need a service or minor repair without a beginner being aware of it. Good luck with your flute adventure!

zen1 · 25/06/2015 00:16

Thank you Ferguson. I really appreciate the advice you and everyone else have given. It has given me lots to think about and research and I'm looking forward to getting stuck in (when the flute arrives!)

Shelling, that is scary thinking that anyone can set themselves up as a teacher. I'm going to see if my son's clarinet teacher can recommend anyone.

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Ferguson · 24/06/2015 23:19

Hi Zen -

I see you have had a good response and suggestions. As I said I would come back, I offer this flute site in case you need more ideas:

www.justflutes.com/category.php?cat_id=2553&comp_letter=&page=1&order=comp

For you, and the children, the ABRSM books on Theory, and the graded Theory in Practice books (which you fill in the answers to questions) are useful and good value.

ShellingPeasAgain · 24/06/2015 09:22

Anyone can be a private music teacher, it's not regulated although professional bodies such as ISM, MU and EPTA have minimum requirements. Working as a peri is different especially if employed by a music hub, or directly by a school as they will be looking for experience and qualifications. So, yes you could teach having gained grade 5 in an instrument 25 years ago, as someone local to me does...

zen1 · 23/06/2015 19:18

Can anyone set themselves up as a teacher then? A friend of mine is a peripatetic music teacher and had to do teaching qualifications as well as attain the relevant grades in her instrument.

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zen1 · 23/06/2015 19:15

Ii will look out for the James Galway clip, Shelling. Ive ordered Learn as You Play the Flute. It is good to know that it moves fast as that's the sort of thing that keeps me motivated. I'm glad there are some teachers who won't mind just giving occasional lessons.

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ShellingPeasAgain · 23/06/2015 19:09

Another place for sourcing flute teachers is the Just Flutes website. They have a 'find a teacher' search. The entries are vetted (up to a point) so a reasonable standard of expertise is expected.

ShellingPeasAgain · 23/06/2015 16:49

The best thing you could do is have a few lessons first and then take it from there. The worst thing to do is to watch dodgy videos on YouTube and develop a tight and inflexible embouchure. James Galway has an excellent clip on forming the right kind of embouchure (sad clown) as opposed to a tight "happy smile" shape which a lot of self taught flute players develop. This will eventually inhibit your ability to play flexibly between the different octaves with good tone.

I have had quite a few adult beginners and I usually advise 3 or 4 taster sessions to see how they get on. Some can cope admirably on their own after an initial block and then come every now and then for a check up lesson, other decide to have regular lessons and some decide that, acutally, flute playing's not for them!

Best books - if you've prior musical knowledge then Learn as You Play the Flute is good, but it moves very fast. I also use Flute Basics with adults who haven't played an instrument before - not too full of mad cartoons and has good pieces and comes with backing CDs. A Tune a Day has some good things but has shockingly bad pictures of someone with a really tight smiley embouchure and is a bit misleading in places. Trevor Wye's Beginner's Book for the flute series are good, very sound, but a bit dull and dated.

zen1 · 23/06/2015 16:45

Thanks for the musicteacher website recommendation. I will pm you Delphine.

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Delphine31 · 23/06/2015 07:50

Where abouts are you OP? I might be able to suggest someone for you.

Otherwise, as a pp suggested do a search on musicteacher.co.uk.

Always have a trial lesson to check you click with the teacher before committing.

Wellthatsit · 22/06/2015 23:28

Clarinet is very different from the flute - don't be surprised by how much air you will need for flute. It is a lot more than any other woodwind instrument.

I would second the recommendation to have a few lessons. you might be lucky and be a natural, but it's very easy to play the flute badly (like any instrument).

Check out musicteachers.co.uk to find a teacher.

JulieMichelleRobinson · 22/06/2015 23:13

I self taught flute at about 17yo. Abracadabra in 2 hours. But I played a lot of bottles and recorder fairly seriously. When I'm in practise I have okayish tone, can't play fast bits and can't double tongue. But I can footle around on it, so it depends what you want from it. I would recommend getting a few lessons at least, for basic technique and positioning. For tone quality... I'm an experienced string player so I know what to look for in the sound and automatically correct for tuning. And I sing a lot, so can control breath. I play decently and have played proper gigs but would never take a flute student even though I've been asked. With no musical background if would be much harder.

zen1 · 22/06/2015 22:58

I have looked at Learn as You Play and it looks ideal so I'll be ordering a copy. Delphine, getting into bad habits is the one thing that was worrying me about teaching myself, so I take on board your suggestion of a couple of lessons to check I've got the right idea. My kids are both learning their instruments at school, so I'm not sure how to go about finding a private teacher.

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Delphine31 · 22/06/2015 22:18

I would recommend looking up good posture for flautists online as you could do mischief if you assume an awkward playing position (it's an awkward enough playing position as it is without forming bad habits!).

I second the suggestion of Learn as You Play.

In your situation I would go and have a couple of lessons just to get you started on the right track and then maybe just have one lesson a month so that you can troubleshoot, check you're not forming bad habits, and just because lessons with a good teacher should be informative, fun and inspiring!

Some teachers aren't keen on teaching students who won't commit to a weekly lesson, but I love teaching adults so would make an exception in order to help someone like you get started and get the most out of playing the flute. There will be other flute teachers out there who feel the same.

zen1 · 22/06/2015 22:12

Learn as you play sounds like the kind of thing I'm after. I'll have a look online - thanks Wafflenose.

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zen1 · 22/06/2015 22:09

Best of luck to you too Fleurdelise. I haven't heard of a support group, but it's a nice idea!

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Wafflenose · 22/06/2015 22:00

I have used Learn As You Play with adult and teenage beginners, and students who can already read music. It moves reasonably fast, and isn't full of cartoons. Flute Basics or Abracadabra would be a bit more gentle.

Fleurdelise · 22/06/2015 21:42

Good luck! I plan to teach myself piano starting September. I was wondering if there is such thing as a support group for adults learning instruments to keep them motivated.

zen1 · 22/06/2015 20:52

Ah yes, the Tune a Day book. I think I had that for the clarinet. I remember seeing a television programme about a woman in her 30s who taught herself the piano from scratch and got to grade 8 standard in 3 years. Very impressive.

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MissMuffetisin · 22/06/2015 20:41

I learnt at school, then tried again 35 plus years later ! I used the good old " tune a Day " book which has the usual scales and arpeggios , and some abridged prices of classical stuff. When I got a little better I bought some 100 top tune type books, and books with Adeles album songs, and the Beatles . Ashamed to say it's dropped by the wayside a bit now - I think I need to wait until I'm retired and have time to take lessons and perhaps join a local orchestra

zen1 · 22/06/2015 20:34

Yes Ferguson, just standard classical stuff with the aim of doing grades. Appreciate you lookingSmile

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zen1 · 22/06/2015 20:32

That's great to know Knotty. Did you find it reasonably straightforward?

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Ferguson · 22/06/2015 20:31

Let me know what sort of music you want - is it just the standard Classical repertoire, presumably it will be to do Grades.

But for entertainment, you might want 'lighter' stuff.

I'll have a look, and come back sometime.

zen1 · 22/06/2015 20:30

MyFriends a lesson once in a while might be the way to go, just to make sure I am using the right technique. I would hate to have to unlearn a bad habit.

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Knottyknitter · 22/06/2015 20:28

Yes you can. I did at about 14. And recorder at 5. I had lessons from about grade four level.

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