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Autumn Term Music and Music Exams Thread

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Wafflenose · 01/09/2014 11:03

Hello everyone. My children went back to school today, so I decided it was time for an Autumn Term thread. Please jump right in!

I have DD1 (MiniWaffle) aged 8, who loves music but knows her own mind!! She is currently playing Grade 6 and 7 Recorder pieces and trying to get her Treble up to scratch. Her second instrument is Flute and she's been hovering around Grade 4 for a while. I have no idea when her next exams will be, or what grade, but none this term that I'm aware of. She is auditioning for the NCO in October though. DD1 also sings, tinkers with piano and ukulele, and has just started the Grade 3 Theory book. I tend to find this one the biggest jump, and if you can do this one, you can manage Grade 4 and 5 easily. Usually. I hope.

DD2 (BabyWaffle) is 6, enjoys music and is going at a completely average pace. I can say this with some confidence, as I have about 120 pupils of my own. She's been playing the recorder for about 18 months and the cello since March. She wants to do Grade 1 Recorder and Initial Grade Cello this term.

Looking forward to hearing about how everyone else is getting on.

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LooseAtTheSeams · 11/12/2014 12:59

Just belatedly catching up with thread and wanted to send congratulations to all the successful candidates! I was thinking of Babywaffle and her initial cello and that was a fantastic result! DS2 doing his cello exam tomorrow, then that's it for this term! I think there's only a drum kit exam next term for DS1, although he now informs me he wants to take up bass guitar in addition to all his other musical activities. Just as well he's not interested in sport as well!

Worriedandlost · 11/12/2014 12:14

ChessParents, same here, violin is now leading instrument, thanks to the teacher's personality :) Just found out that she got distinction for her violin exam (grade 2), I can relax till June now :))))

ChessParents · 11/12/2014 11:11

Worriedandlost, he spent double the time practice violin. Violin is his first instrument even he started it later. He has not taken any exam of violin so far. What about you DD1? I understand she got a very good violin teacher and has a great progress. I am struggling to find DS2 a suitable violin teacher. He's only had three lessons in the last two months.

Worriedandlost · 10/12/2014 23:46

ChessParents, thanks for answering, this is amazing-such a quick progress. Dd also doing piano and violin and started early so I know what it is all about! :)) Where is he with violin if you do not mind me asking?

Viewofthehills · 10/12/2014 21:38

I should be weaving- gutted is the word here too, but expected after the disaster in the exam. Effectively heard the piece go back two months in time- not sure it's good to be able to hear from outside the room!

Viewofthehills · 10/12/2014 21:34

Theas; I have wondered about hypnotherapy which is probably more woo than NLP. I am generally on the skeptical side, but would consider anything that works even if it's mainly for the placebo effect! Your poor DS- bleeding into his instrument. The nerves here started after being rushed into grade 7, 15 minutes early and not ready.
Have been to RNCM for the open day and will request an advice audition and planning to look at Birmingham after Christmas. Thanks. x

ChessParents · 10/12/2014 19:30

Worriedandlost: He started piano right after his 5th birthday and then violin 6 months later.

Worriedandlost · 10/12/2014 18:48

ChessParents this is impressive, what age your ds2 started music lessons?

Theas18 · 10/12/2014 13:45

What lovely results especially for the mini/baby waffles and waffle pupils!

Viewfromthehills have you tried any strategies for performance anxiety? DS had a session of NLP paid for by grandma that seemed to help a lot (he went through a couple of bad auditions etc eg for the senior orchestra when he was on roaccutane and his lip split and bled into his horn and he didn't even mention that was why it sounded odd). It all seems a bit "woo" to me but might be an investment DC wants a musical career.

Don't resit a merit. It wont make any difference and the psychology of doing the same stuff again and maybe getting less marks would be crushing. Better to spend the time doing repertoire and maybe even a performance diploma?

Oh and don't forget ( I assume he's doing A level music) that AS/A2 performances will be looking for standards well below grade 8 (AS 6, A2 7) so prep some easier but immaculate pieces with well researched interpretations for these too.

JulieMichelleRobinson · 10/12/2014 12:53

KCL in particular has strong links to the RAM - especially for performance - and also to SOAS (for those interested in ethnomusicology). Our instrumental lessons were at RAM taught by postgrad students (e.g. if you were me) or by staff if someone was fantastic and focusing on performance (chiefly those admitted to Advanced Performance in the third year - there is also a regular Performance III option). I think the advanced classes also came out with RAM or ABRSM quals when I was there, can't remember.

It also depends a bit on instruments/voices - e.g. I have friends who went to KCL with me, then on to opera or early music courses at conservatoire now that their voices have matured. I have another friend from Kings who is a pianist, but wanted to specialise in accompaniment - which is only offered as a postgrad course.

I also remember that I only applied to RAM, RCM and RNCM - and got a waiting-list place at the latter. So maybe if I'd applied to more places things would have been different, but that was already two sets of flights plus hostel and flying on my own to London at 17... plus nerves so bad that I was physically sick on the day of my London auditions! I didn't even have to do an interview for uni. ;-)

Ishouldbeweaving · 10/12/2014 09:28

Viewofthehills - have you considered going for an advice audition? I know RNCM do one so presume that the other conservatoires do too. I'm pretty sure that's what we'll do the year before applications go in so DS has a clue whether he's wasting his time applying (he has an embrouchure issue, the question is how much of an issue). Part of the fee is refunded if you apply within a year.

DS was gutted to "only" get a merit in his G8, this was the one exam where he'd put a decent amount of work in and he thought he deserved more. We said that if he ever found he had a need for the distinction then he could take the exam again.

Viewofthehills · 10/12/2014 04:32

Thanks Julie. Awake worrying so have come back to this and looked at KCL. Course looks amazing- I'll show her. I think I remember you saying once before how many opportunities were available to you there? I do think University might suit her better.

JulieMichelleRobinson · 10/12/2014 00:09

Ealing,

His whole piano personality has changed in the last year, used to be really classically oriented now comes in playing "music of the popular idiom".

JulieMichelleRobinson · 10/12/2014 00:07

Or, jazz flute exam?

JulieMichelleRobinson · 10/12/2014 00:05

Fwiw I went to KCL instead and it suited me much better. I think music college may have driven me nuts.

JulieMichelleRobinson · 10/12/2014 00:04

Won't make a difference as conservatoire will audition (my vln grade 8 only merit but 4 years before auditions I failed) and uni won't be fussed whether it's a distinction or not. However, audition situation similar to exams, so maybe resit or do another board as a way of practising dealing with that anxiety? Remember conservatoire entrance is competitive so no matter how good you are there might be 30 better auditioning!

Viewofthehills · 09/12/2014 23:32

Thanks Ealing. She gets so bothered by exams, whereas she can produce other performances which are better than playing at home!

ealingwestmum · 09/12/2014 23:16

Great results from all!

Only anecdotal feedback from parents with kids your age viewofthehills is that often retakes can deliver even lower marks than the original exam, unless learning completely new pieces to avoid boredom/overcooking. Most move on with the merit obtained and don't get too hindered by the uni application process.

However, not able to give any 1st hand knowledge I'm afraid!

Viewofthehills · 09/12/2014 21:15

Well done BabyWaffle and Waffle's pupils and Chess's DS!

Viewofthehills · 09/12/2014 21:12

DD1 has a merit on piano. Was distinction level playing beforehand, but fell apart a bit in the exam and had to restart one piece. Already has grade 8 merit on the flute, which could also have been a distinction, but wasn't!

Really wants to do music at college/uni. Currently year 12, so would have time to resit if that is for the best, but we clearly have some issues with performance anxiety and have to ask whether she would do better or whether the end result might be the same?

Any advice please wise people?

Wafflenose · 09/12/2014 20:41

Well done to him, that's a fab mark!

We were at the end of a session, so I have results already. 12 recorder exams, all low grades (Initial, Grade 1 and Grade 2): 3 Passes, 6 Merits and 3 Distinctions, ranging from 71% to 95% (Trinity). Adding those to a successful Prep Test and a Flute Merit from ABRSM, that's a fantastic season, and I'm really pleased with them. The three passes weren't sounding very good a few weeks ago, but put in some work at the last minute.

BabyWaffle (6 year old) got a Merit for Grade 1 Recorder (76) and a Distinction for Initial Cello (90). We knew she was way past the standard for Initial, but the profile is so weird! She got full marks for scales, aural, sight reading and one piece, then lost 2 marks on one piece and 8 on the other!! If she hadn't messed her last piece up, who knows what score she'd have?! Anyway, I told her that two passes would be fine, (because she is dreamy and erratic, ha ha) and secretly thought she might get two merits. This is better than we all expected!

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ChessParents · 09/12/2014 16:17

Just got email from piano teacher, DS2 8 pass G5 theory with 95/100. He can prepare his G6 piano now as it has been postponed from last month to sometimes early next year as he hasn't had G5 theory.

ealingwestmum · 09/12/2014 11:07

Well done for getting a pass out of him Julie, sounds like he had a bit of a rough ride. Great to see how a teacher adapts a teaching schedule to meet the needs and personality of a child too...

JulieMichelleRobinson · 09/12/2014 09:34

Quite. I think sometimes we're in danger of not recognising that a pass is a real achievement, though, and thinking that only a merit or distinction is "good enough".

My prediction is that he'll have scored between 20 and 23 on each piece - he said he'd rushed them in the exam, which was something we were trying to NOT do, and I'd be surprised if dynamics happened - failed the sightreading completely, scored around 14 or 15 for aural and probably got a pass mark for the scales. If we'd taken it last term as per the plan, he may actually have done better, but the poor lad was off sick for about six weeks. I think by now he was sick of the pieces etc. to be honest.

Moving on, I'll swap him out of the classical route for a bit and we'll be looking at jazz and contemporary piano... and his grade 4 will possibly be with RockSchool. I'll also be planning his lessons carefully as I want to work towards my teaching diploma or potentially licentiate with someone or other so a series of lesson plans is not a bad idea. They will include LOTS of sightreading ;)

Ishouldbeweaving · 09/12/2014 08:43

JMR - It's a pass, it's better than a fail and it backs up all you've said to him. Better that he scrapes through this time, has a fright and bucks his ideas up for next time. If he didn't put the work in and still got a merit he would learn a different lesson altogether.

School breaks up a week on Thursday and as I haven't heard anything about a Christmas concert I'm assuming that we're not having one this year. That just leaves thirteen performances between now and Christmas Day (assuming that they are all written on the calendar and we're not having any surprise concerts this year). My supporting role is keeping up with washing and ironing all those white shirts.