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Autumn Term Music and Music Exams Thread

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Wafflenose · 01/09/2014 11:03

Hello everyone. My children went back to school today, so I decided it was time for an Autumn Term thread. Please jump right in!

I have DD1 (MiniWaffle) aged 8, who loves music but knows her own mind!! She is currently playing Grade 6 and 7 Recorder pieces and trying to get her Treble up to scratch. Her second instrument is Flute and she's been hovering around Grade 4 for a while. I have no idea when her next exams will be, or what grade, but none this term that I'm aware of. She is auditioning for the NCO in October though. DD1 also sings, tinkers with piano and ukulele, and has just started the Grade 3 Theory book. I tend to find this one the biggest jump, and if you can do this one, you can manage Grade 4 and 5 easily. Usually. I hope.

DD2 (BabyWaffle) is 6, enjoys music and is going at a completely average pace. I can say this with some confidence, as I have about 120 pupils of my own. She's been playing the recorder for about 18 months and the cello since March. She wants to do Grade 1 Recorder and Initial Grade Cello this term.

Looking forward to hearing about how everyone else is getting on.

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LooseAtTheSeams · 08/09/2014 13:34

'Jack is Sad' is beautiful, though it's having less of an emotional impact on me at the moment as I'm concentrating on holding down the right keys in the right places! I'm determined to get the scale sorted out this week but I always seem to miss a note out either going up or down, and not necessarily the same note!

Thanks so much for the tip about theory books for string players, Julie, I will definitely have a look at those. Smallish books that can be carried around would be better for DS2, I think.

JulieMichelleRobinson · 08/09/2014 12:49

Just a tip for beginner's theory for string players - the lady who wrote the "Hey Presto!" method books has also written a "Music theory for violinists" (etc.) series to go alongside. There are 6 smallish books, and they only go up to around grade 1 theory, but I'm tempted to use them for my fiddlers as a way in because AB theory seems so piano-oriented. There are viola and cello versions.

Wafflenose · 08/09/2014 12:47

What a lovely piece, Loose - I just had a listen on Youtube!

DD1 has just done F# minor as well, on her flute. Nasty pig of a scale, that one.

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LooseAtTheSeams · 08/09/2014 12:23

Best of luck to your 6th former, Wafflenose, they sound fantastic! I am now thinking of getting DS1 to start on theory grade books at half term, just doing some at home to start with, before enrolling on a course. I also have a couple of books aimed specifically at children for DS2 to try while he's sitting with me in the waiting room during DS1's percussion lesson - if nothing else, it might improve his sight reading for piano. He's doing well with cello practice, and the scales are coming along nicely though some way to go, yet.

My piano lessons have resumed. I am focusing on F sharp minor and 'Jack is Sad' this week. I'm supposed to be learning various alternative fingering for the scale but at the moment it's as much as I can do to get one version right!

Wafflenose · 07/09/2014 15:47

One of my pupils is doing Grade 5 Theory this term. :) It's a 6th former with SEN, and we have taken two years to go from 0-5 (although they did know quite a few scales, Italian terms etc already, from their playing). We could have gone faster, but I haven't set homework due to 6th form and Learning Support commitments. I'm hoping for a good result, because they got 81% on a practice paper over the summer.

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Greengrow · 07/09/2014 15:37

We did it in bed for about 5 or 10 minutes a night before story time (theory) so a routine, every day. Some of it (grade 5 theory) is proving useful now in their GCSE music.

Wafflenose · 07/09/2014 15:13

I reckon we could do a grade a term if we did some every day, but it's hard when she's in school and getting home tired/ grumpy or has activities in the evenings. We're about 20% of the way through this book and will keep plodding along. It'll be worth it in the end! I would hope to be done in another 12-18 months really.

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Greengrow · 07/09/2014 07:57

With my youngest two I did a gtheory rade a term 1 /2/3 Easter, grade 4 book but not the exam over a summer holiday and grade 5 the next term Christmas(which they both failed), resat next term - one passed, resat term after and the other one passed. They were about ten. The older ones when about the same agedid loads of theory every day with their father (a music teacher) - I remember he took them camping over one summer holiday and they did grade 5 theory every morning for an hour - it got them through it and one got almost full marks. I always liked music theory (and maths) as you can get full marks. I even almost got full marks in grade 8 theory a long time ago.

xmasplanner · 07/09/2014 07:35

We have been the same Morethan and waffle - my dd has been stuck on grade 5 since she was in y4 and she has just started in y6! Theory will be done in November and then hopefully grade 7 in spring. She still progressed through suzuki books and played grade 6 & 7 pieces at festivals and for NCO audition. Need to give theory a big push now!

Shakyisles · 06/09/2014 23:18

Ooh. I just read that back and don't want to get into a discussion about trinity or abrsm - I meant personally for me - not for everyone. Smile

Shakyisles · 06/09/2014 23:10

Oh yes - I was only talking about abrsm Aurals. Trinity are way shorter and I think, far easier.

Wafflenose · 06/09/2014 20:37

I think DD1 got full marks in Trinity Grade 5 Aural (and sight reading). She dropped 8 marks in her last exam, surprisingly - she usually doesn't play her best on the day. But she hasn't tried Grade 4 ABRSM aural yet. I don't think it's harder... just different. But yes, a step up from Grade 3 ABRSM. Come to think of it, she won't have done that either!

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Shakyisles · 06/09/2014 20:33

There is a big step up in aurals at grade 4. A smaller step to grade 5 then another big one at grade 6. I prefer these modern aurals to the old 1980's ones I knew so well. I think the sight singing is very important for musicianship and I like the parallels between gcse and abrsm aural skills.

I also prefer the theory now. They took out some particular nasty stuff and replaced with mire general questions but the feel if the paper is about consistent with gcse level in my opinion.

Grade 8 aurals - we've started doing them weekly as singing the bass line (up in octave) is really hard for my daughter.

Wafflenose · 06/09/2014 20:30

Sorry to disappoint you, but I know a girl who got 4 Grade 8s around age 13-14, then went on to get a few more!!

Yes, I teach them recorders and theory, and they join in some of my school recorder groups too. But I can't tell DD1 anything or correct her at all - she goes berserk. Partly, it's personality, and partly (unfortunately) it's due to being older and brighter in her year, never having had to work at anything academic, and unable to cope with making mistakes, being wrong. Sheesh! So she is basically teaching herself the recorder right now. I just make supportive noises and tell her to practise!

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morethanpotatoprints · 06/09/2014 20:25

wafflenose

I admire your patience, do you teach your dds recorder as well as being a teacher yourself?
I have found that dh is far less patient with dd than the pupils he has.
Of course he is there to shout through when she gets something wrong and from day one has taught correct practice technique which I think helps tremendously.
The difference between saxophone and violin practice is distinct.
She is still determined to join music school at y9 so there isn't a hurry for grades yet. I think also she may hopefully give something up soon as she can't keep all four up at the later grades surely ? Grin

Wafflenose · 06/09/2014 20:19

I should add she's doing Trinity for Recorder, and ABRSM for Flute, hence the theory.

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Wafflenose · 06/09/2014 20:18

Morethan, we are about to get stuck at Grade 5 for a while I think, followed by some Grade 6s in a year or two!!

DD1 got Grade 5 distinction on recorder last term, but her treble is way below that, and she has to play part of her programme on it for Grade 6, as well as doing the sight reading and technical work on treble.

On flute, she's below that currently (although probably not for long)... and has only just started the Grade 3 Theory book! So her Grade 6s are a way off yet, although she is playing Grade 6/7 descant pieces.

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morethanpotatoprints · 06/09/2014 20:14

My dd is starting County Youth Big Band on Monday it is her first step on her way to playing in her Dads NW Jazz Orchestra. She has a way to go yet though Grin

She is still in the x choir but doesn't go back for a while. Looking forward to catching a glimpse of her on TV xmas day.

Then thursday another choir and County Youth Orchestra.

No exams for a while as she is skipping practical to concentrate on theory, then next year a few grade 6's

GreenGrow

Lovely to hear how your dc are doing, haven't heard about their music for a while. I bet that bass voice sounds lovely.

Wafflenose · 06/09/2014 20:11

I bought DD1 the Grade 4 flute book a couple of months ago, as per teacher's instructions, and she refused to look at it. She loves the old ones (2008-2012 or similar) and has been playing the for months, for concerts and auditions. I wasn't concerned, and put the book in her bag for when the time came. She's been playing studies, scales, Disney and Andrew Lloyd Webber all summer. On Tuesday, she decided she was ready to look at it... and already has 4 of the pieces to exam (high pass) standard! Scales are reasonable, but the sight reading and aural are a step up for her. I think she could do it this term if she pulled her finger out, but she already has SWMS, lots of school ensembles, an NCO audition, busking and possibly a competition (for recorder) lined up. I think her teacher is aiming for next term... She went sailing right past Grade 3, and was playing much longer/ harder pieces by the time she would have sat it, and I wonder if the same thing is going to happen with Grade 4. My wallet will be pleased.

DD2 is doing two exams this term, which I expect will cost in the region of 70 quid altogether!

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Shakyisles · 06/09/2014 20:10

Not impressive - just helping her with her passion. It's all about building a habit.

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Greengrow · 06/09/2014 11:44

I was going to have one of my teenagers doing grade 8 horn this term but he and his teacher have put it off until another term ( probably due to his lack of practice).
The other one has passed grade 8 trumpet and grade 7 singing but has decided not to do grade 8 singing which is a shame as he has a lovely bass voice now and I would have enjoyed doing it with him. He is moving up the electric guitar grades though - although that is not my thing really. He got almost full marks in grade 3 which is not surprising due to his other subject higher grades which must make things like grade 3 sight reading, aurals etc seem fairly easy.

Bramshott · 06/09/2014 11:15

Good luck to all the other new secondary starters!

DD1 seems to have survived her first day of 2 x instrumental lessons and struggling on the bus under the weight of a bassoon! Concert band from next week and apparently they're going on tour!

Ishouldbeweaving · 06/09/2014 09:03

Julie - I am laughing at "actual practice, not just playing stuff I like". You're in touch with your inner teen there.

There is no morning practice here, not unless it's the morning of G8. The combination of a semi detached and a brass instrument rules that out. There's a two hour gap between the school bus arriving and my neighbour getting in from work and that's what I aim for.