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Is this a well rounded exercise plan?

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naiveandrestles · 11/09/2025 07:49

I need to lose about 5stone. The stiffness and inflexibility bothers me the most. I'm also 45 and have previously been old Im at risk of osteoporosis.

I used to run but I dont think my knees and hips could cope with that right now. I've tried at home stuff but I just dont have the motivation for it. I hate just walking for the sake of walking (yet I loved running, go figure).

So, Im joining a gym. I dont like just "going to the gym". I find it boring and I dont push myself. I like classes but the only gym with classes is a bus ride away so I feel like I need to make it count when I'm there and do a few classes after each other.

Do you think the below is well rounded? I know if Im strict with myself for a month or so, it will become habit so it is realistic.

M - Spin (I love spin!) followed by body pump then a stretch class
W- Spin followed by yoga
T - Personal trainer to focus on weights

I have been addressing my diet.

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naiveandrestles · 12/09/2025 08:00

I do understand what people are saying about walking but honestly that isnt going to happen. I HATE just "going for a walk".

Last year I paid a fortune to do 2 of those virtual "walk the great wall of china" type things where you get a medal at the end. I thought it would get me into good habits. I regularly walked about a mile above my normal activity for several months. I HATED every second. Physically it was fine but I really, really struggled with the boredom and monotony. There is nowhere "nice" to walk by me but even if there was I still dont think Id like it. Similarly I joined a walking group when I was on maternity. I managed I think 3 sessions and I joined the lunch time walk at work a few times but It was all just sooooo dull and I couldnt get past it being pointless (I know it isnt but it feels that way iyswim?).

I dont like walking with headphones because I cant hear what is going on around me. I walk to 90% of things anyway so I cant just get off the bus early.

I know myself, I hate walking without getting somewhere. That's one of the reasons we dont have a dog although Id love one!

If I say Ill take a 30min walk every day, that isnt going to happen. I dont mind exercise. I really enjoy some types but I wont keep walking up. Ive tried in the past and I know myself well enough to know I cant motivate myself to walk.

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MsSampson · 12/09/2025 07:43

OP, you know yourself best, so you know if you will realistically stick to this kind of schedule.

I have recently been in a similar situation, and have gone from no exercise at all in April to a position where I feel significantly stronger and more mobile. I signed up to an online strength training programme and I do it twice a week. At the beginning I was so enthusiastic I actually had to stop myself doing it more, because I know from previous experience that I tend to go all in, and then burn out or get injured. And, barring holidays, I've stuck to it for 6 months I'm just starting to go to 3 a week. So, I get what people are saying, that three times a week is ideal, but twice (or even once!) a week for 6 months is better than 3 weeks of enthusiasm and then ditching it. (For me! You might be different)

In terms of cardio, I really liked michael mosley's advice on a just one thing podcast. This is a massive paraphrase. But he said your body doesn't really care if you're running or walking fast in terms of fitness. So, take something you do anyway, and then just make sure your heart rate goes up to 100bpm. So, I just upped my pace for my walk to work and found that really helpful, and now I'm fitter have replaced it with cycling. But I don't have to worry about motivation because I'm doing it anyway iyswim.

Anyway, everyone is different, different things work for different people, this is just what has worked for me (I am 47, was edging into obese territory, and my knees were complaining every time I stood up, and now they aren't). Good luck with it all, I found the idea of maintaining mobility into older age to be the best motivation, I hope you get to where you want to be.

Gymbunny2025 · 12/09/2025 07:22

ParmaVioletTea · 11/09/2025 23:49

I wouldn’t drop the stretch class on Monday if it’s convenient.

You could also do a self-directed second weights session. You really need 3-4 weights each week, so why not do that on Friday.

Why do you need 3-4 weights a week out of interest?

naiveandrestles · 12/09/2025 07:22

BitOutOfPractice · 12/09/2025 06:43

I think that’s a very ambitious plan for someone with “shocking” levels of fitness tbh. I worry that you’re setting yourself up to fail.

Id also say that it’s hard to get fit if you’re not strong. I’d definitely be adding in strength work before you go hell for leather on cardio. Building strength will help your knees and hips massively.

Ive got 3 weights sessions which Ive been repeatedly told I need.

2 cardio and either 1 or 2 pilates/yoga.

Im not sure what I can drop? I dont want to just do weights and I feel like I need pilates/yoga to improve my flexibility.

(Ive looked at the swimming this morning and that isn't possible).

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MJalltheway · 12/09/2025 07:05

From someone who was in the same position as this in January, it sounds an incredibly demanding schedule to kick off with. I was 5 stone overweight with all the accompanying aches, pains, injuries and stiffness. I started off with 1 session of aquafit a week. Then 2 sessions. Once I'd done that for a couple of months I added in more and more. I now train 5 or 6 times a week but it's all been built up gradually. Previously when I've tried to get in an exercise routine I've gone too hard at it and ended up injured and out for 6+ months and then it's so hard to get back into it again.
i understand your point about making the gym trip worthwhile but I think you're really being quite over-ambitious. better to start slowly and build up.

spoonbillstretford · 12/09/2025 06:51

Kindly, it might be quite a lot, OP with your being so much overweight, but what you have put isn't a bad balance. Perhaps 1 x yoga, 1 x spin, 1 x PT weights session to start with. Get in as much walking as you can.

If you can keep up and enjoy this for six months THEN start focusing on diet. If the exercise plan is too much, focus on weights, yoga and walking.

If you really want to lose weight though as a first priority, diet should be the focus. Exercise wise ten minutes of walking a day, building up to half an hour. One weights session and one yoga.

Be gentle with yourself when making lifestyle changes. Too much exercise, particularly something like spin will raise your cortisol which will put too much stress on yoir body You'll also retain water and be hungrier it will make weight loss much harder.

If you can spend time building muscle first and toning up for six months without worrying about the scales before tackling diet properly that would be the best way. With dieting you inevitably loae some muscle. By building the muscle first you are likely to keep a good shape, have less or no loose skin, plus there are lots of other benefits.

BitOutOfPractice · 12/09/2025 06:43

naiveandrestles · 11/09/2025 20:40

Im going to drop the body pump because it isnt what I thought it was.

Fitness is shocking (just walking) which is why Im hiring a PT to help me.

I think that’s a very ambitious plan for someone with “shocking” levels of fitness tbh. I worry that you’re setting yourself up to fail.

Id also say that it’s hard to get fit if you’re not strong. I’d definitely be adding in strength work before you go hell for leather on cardio. Building strength will help your knees and hips massively.

naiveandrestles · 12/09/2025 06:38

Thank you everyone for your help. I appreciate it.

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naiveandrestles · 12/09/2025 06:34

ParmaVioletTea · 11/09/2025 23:49

I wouldn’t drop the stretch class on Monday if it’s convenient.

You could also do a self-directed second weights session. You really need 3-4 weights each week, so why not do that on Friday.

My second to last post had a typo. I'll be doing weights on Wednesday too. Either before spin or after spin.

So:
M -Weights and spin
Or Spin, weights and stretch

T - Yoga/pilates?

W - Weights and spin and yoga
or spin and weights

T - PT ( focus on sttength/weights)

F - Swimming?

S/S - nothing.

I'm hoping that the Thursday session will be hard (for me) because Im with the PT so I dont want anything overly intensive the next day.

I need to pay for the PT session seperately. But now Im wondering whether Ill be better pay-as-you-go for the gym/classes if Im only doing 2 spin and 2 individual weight each week.

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ParmaVioletTea · 11/09/2025 23:49

I wouldn’t drop the stretch class on Monday if it’s convenient.

You could also do a self-directed second weights session. You really need 3-4 weights each week, so why not do that on Friday.

naiveandrestles · 11/09/2025 23:09

Sorry, Wed should be either spin and weights or preferably (depending on time) weights and spin.

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naiveandrestles · 11/09/2025 22:58

Ok so...

M - Spin and light weights (or if I can figure it out preferably weights and spin). No body pump and no stretch

T - yoga or pilates (I walk past both on the way to and from work so its no effort which is good because I probably wouldnt make the effort to go otherwise)

W - spin followed by yoga

T - PT focusing on weights

F - swimming? Assuming the sessions are a good time, its out of my way but I could do it. I do like swimming but Im a swim back and forth having a conversation swimmer. 🤣 This is the one Id be most likely to drop if Im honest because it is inconvenient to get to.

S / S - Nothing. Not even going to pretend Ill do anything on the weekend.

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naiveandrestles · 11/09/2025 22:46

FeelinTwentySixPointTwo · 11/09/2025 21:57

Honestly, if it's a 2hr round trip to the gym it feels like you're setting yourself up to fail. Unless you have no other commitments (unlikely) that's going to be hard to fit in long-term. Whereas if you did couch to 5k three times a week from home, and a Caroline Girvan video 3x a week from home as well for strength - perhaps throw in some yoga with Adriene for strength and flexibility- you could fit far more in and have a more rounded exercise schedule at the same time.

I know what you are saying.

Im not in a state that I can do c25k right now. Walking sometimes hurts. High intensity thudding on pavements (even in short bursts) will not help my hips right now. At some point in the future I will start running again but right now I will hurt myself.

Ive tried various home workouts and

  1. I just cant motivate myself
  2. I feel self conscious doing them when other people are about but I dont get any regular time alone at home.
  3. We have very little space.

Ive trekked to gyms before without an issue. Once I get into a routine Ill be fine. The first few weeks/month will be tough but that's partly why Im getting a PT. If there is someone waiting for me, then I have to go and Ill feel bad if I say I havent done anything since I saw him last. So after a month of that, I will just go on autopilot that on Tuesdays (or whenever) I go to the gym. Its not ideal but Im not concerned about it.

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naiveandrestles · 11/09/2025 22:34

ClashCityRocker · 11/09/2025 21:14

I think it sounds sensible to drop pump (at this stage! You can always add it in later).

Otherwise you're in danger of too much too soon - that's happened to me a few times in the past.

You've got a PT session and that can be useful for so much more than the actual session - she/he could show you some body weight exercises that can be done at home for example, talk about the timings of your workouts, what your aims are and how to achieve them.

You say the gyms a fair trek - and you hate walking. Is it cycleable? Just a suggestion, but I find cycling (to get somewhere, as opposed to lycra cycling!) a good way of getting cardio in whilst going about my day

Im getting the bus there.
I used to cycle everywhere and enjoyed it (good workout and much quicker than walking!) but Im very clumsy and uncoordinated and regularly fell off. 🤣 plus I had some run ins with car drivers.
Understandbly and completely reasonably, my husband asked me to stop cycling when I got pregnant. But I lost confidence to get back on it afterwards and then my bike got nicked.

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naiveandrestles · 11/09/2025 22:27

CandelabraCat · 11/09/2025 21:10

If you used to actually enjoy running, have you considered doing Couch to 5km? My knees used to complain a LOT when I ran but they were actually fine when I built up slowly enough, alongside some stretches to strengthen my glutes.

I honestly couldnt do that right now. Even doing something like C25k would risk hurting myself. My body is not in the condition that could take pounding on the street, even in short bursts. I cant believe Ive done this to myself. 😪

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naiveandrestles · 11/09/2025 22:24

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 11/09/2025 21:07

Could you get off a bus too early? So just a little walk that has a reason (to gym/to home) and that can act as your warm up and cool down?

I dont really catch the bus much.

I need to, to the gym because it would just take me too long to walk there. The bus stop is about 10mins from the gym so probably the equivalent of getting off a stop early anyway.

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naiveandrestles · 11/09/2025 22:18

ParmaVioletTea · 11/09/2025 20:54

Look, you can do what suits you. But you could also look at the evidence for middle-aged women and obesity generally.

Diet is the main thing.

Then everyday exercise: getting your steps in.

Establishing good habits of everyday movement and mobility - mobility is far more important than stretching - can you get yourself up off the floor if you fell?

Then building muscle through resistance training - weights are a convenient way of doing this, and ensuring you’re doing full body training with progressive overload. That’s why the “classic” lifts - squats, deadlift, bench press, overhead press - are so classic - and good for you !

If you enjoy Spin classes - go for it!

But generally, do strength training before cardio if you’re doing them in the same session. You need to challenge your muscles and overload them so they respond to that stimulus of overload and grow, so they can better deal with the overload.

You might aim for 4 training sessions a week, but try to have active rest on days in between. So your spin and stretch classes on Monday, then a long walk or a swim on Tuesday. And so on.

Id really recommend listening to Dr Stacey Sims on the best way for middle-aged women to train. In a nutshell, she says: lift heavy, and sprint interval training. I do both, and it’s not easy, but boy oh boy, the results are wonderful in terms of my strength, mobility, and overall well-being.

I appreciate your help.

Absolutely re the diet. I am working on that. Im confident I can address that but I need to do it in steps to make it stick iyswim. So right now, Im addressing snacking, then it will be sugar intake etc If I try to change all of that and start exercising then it will be too much and Ill fail at all of it.

Right now, I need to prioritise exercise (whilst working on diet). My hips shouldnt hurt this much when I stand up. Some is weight related but some is just stiffness and inflexibility. I cant paint my toe nails right now because I cant move my legs in the right way, its not fat getting in the way, its stiffness.

I understand what you are saying about weights before cardio. I didnt know that but it makes sense. I dont know if it will be possible to do but Ill see if I can do that.

The PT will (hopefully!) help be identify what exercises/,weights I need to do. Squats are the equivalent to burpies for me - evil! 🤣 So I need someone to make me do them!

I could do yoga/pilates class on the Tuesday? I like swimming but the pools are open at odd times and difficult to get to.

Apart from walking to/from work, exercise has to be fitted in. When I WFH I know I wont go for a lunchtime walk so I'm not going to pretend I will. Im just trying to be truthful with myself.

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DownThePubWithStevieNicks · 11/09/2025 22:04

You’ve been given good advice so I’ll add a very practical point!

If you’re doing two or three lots of activity in one go, think about whether you’ll need two or three changes of clothes, and whether you’ll be able to cart them all to work then gym, and keep on top of the washing! Spin will get you very sweaty, and you’ll likely be uncomfortable and perhaps a bit smelly in your weights and stretch class if you’re still in that kit.

FeelinTwentySixPointTwo · 11/09/2025 21:57

Honestly, if it's a 2hr round trip to the gym it feels like you're setting yourself up to fail. Unless you have no other commitments (unlikely) that's going to be hard to fit in long-term. Whereas if you did couch to 5k three times a week from home, and a Caroline Girvan video 3x a week from home as well for strength - perhaps throw in some yoga with Adriene for strength and flexibility- you could fit far more in and have a more rounded exercise schedule at the same time.

Gymbunny2025 · 11/09/2025 21:52

I think it’s good but I’d add in a walk or run from home a couple of days a week too. I do 2 spin classes then body pump sometimes. It’s doable but I am pretty tired doing pump (especially legs obviously!)

ClashCityRocker · 11/09/2025 21:14

I think it sounds sensible to drop pump (at this stage! You can always add it in later).

Otherwise you're in danger of too much too soon - that's happened to me a few times in the past.

You've got a PT session and that can be useful for so much more than the actual session - she/he could show you some body weight exercises that can be done at home for example, talk about the timings of your workouts, what your aims are and how to achieve them.

You say the gyms a fair trek - and you hate walking. Is it cycleable? Just a suggestion, but I find cycling (to get somewhere, as opposed to lycra cycling!) a good way of getting cardio in whilst going about my day

CandelabraCat · 11/09/2025 21:10

If you used to actually enjoy running, have you considered doing Couch to 5km? My knees used to complain a LOT when I ran but they were actually fine when I built up slowly enough, alongside some stretches to strengthen my glutes.

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 11/09/2025 21:07

Could you get off a bus too early? So just a little walk that has a reason (to gym/to home) and that can act as your warm up and cool down?

naiveandrestles · 11/09/2025 21:03

Snapplepie · 11/09/2025 19:03

Agree with others saying spin+pump+ stretch is too much. Id do pump and stretch. If you do pump after spin you wont get much out of it anyway as you'll have depleted your leg muscles.

Even without the three classes on a monday, depending on your levels of activity and fitness at the moment, this may well be too much and tip you into being at high risk of injury.

Your tissues need time to adjust to increased activity if you do too much too quickly you'll just get injured and have to stop everything. This schedule looks like a tendinopathy waiting to happen.

I'm dropping pump. People are right that 2 cardio straight after each other is too much.

So it will be:
M - Spin, light weights (PT programme), stretch
W - Spin, yoga
T - PT weights

Spin can be adjusted (slower, lower resistance, not doing some of the moves etc) and I will be sensible with it. Thats why Im only looking at twice a week and with a gap between them. I did spin for years so Im confident about being able to adjust it/knowing what my body can and cant do.

I know people keep saying about 3 classes but stretch is literally just that and I feel like that is a really good way to finish a class and weights session to avoid injury? Like a 30min cool down. I know I will need to be careful to not over stretch because my muscles will be softer(?) after the exercise.

I really, really need to work on loosening everything up. Today I've been hobbling like an old woman because my hips hurt because they are so stiff.

It's going to take a while to get to where I need to be and Im OK with that.

Id like to start running again but realistically that wont be until spring at the earliest.

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ParmaVioletTea · 11/09/2025 20:54

Look, you can do what suits you. But you could also look at the evidence for middle-aged women and obesity generally.

Diet is the main thing.

Then everyday exercise: getting your steps in.

Establishing good habits of everyday movement and mobility - mobility is far more important than stretching - can you get yourself up off the floor if you fell?

Then building muscle through resistance training - weights are a convenient way of doing this, and ensuring you’re doing full body training with progressive overload. That’s why the “classic” lifts - squats, deadlift, bench press, overhead press - are so classic - and good for you !

If you enjoy Spin classes - go for it!

But generally, do strength training before cardio if you’re doing them in the same session. You need to challenge your muscles and overload them so they respond to that stimulus of overload and grow, so they can better deal with the overload.

You might aim for 4 training sessions a week, but try to have active rest on days in between. So your spin and stretch classes on Monday, then a long walk or a swim on Tuesday. And so on.

Id really recommend listening to Dr Stacey Sims on the best way for middle-aged women to train. In a nutshell, she says: lift heavy, and sprint interval training. I do both, and it’s not easy, but boy oh boy, the results are wonderful in terms of my strength, mobility, and overall well-being.