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What exercise to help with running?

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pepperminttaste · 24/12/2021 07:22

Morning all!

Looking for some advice... I have developed a running injury that affects my knees and ankles. I've gone from running 12k to barely managing 3k. I saw a physio (virtually) who suggested I didn't have the core strength to run as far and as fast as often as I did. She gave me a list of strength exercises to do while building my running back up. It's not really working (although, full disclosure, the strength exercises are boring and I'm not doing them that often).

I'm starting to despair (it's been a year) and I'm getting podgy and feel lethargic all the time. I need to run.

What exercise* could I do that would build up my core muscles/glutes so I can maybe run again?

*Happy to hear all advice but... I hate exercise classes, won't cycle on roads and dislike indoor pools. Grin

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ExConstance · 30/12/2021 10:38

I run 3 x pw and do 2 pilates and one yoga class on top of that. Yoga and pilates are great for core strength and both enable leg and hip muscles to be less stiff and more flexible. You get quite a few men who are really into running and other sports come to the yoga and pilates classes, they find it very difficult to begin with, the don't seem to be able to straighten their legs when bending forwards or to sit cross legged. The regulars are much improved.

pepperminttaste · 29/12/2021 19:15

I do crab walk with a resistance band already. I really like that one. Will check out those other options too and have a go at massage. Thanks.

Annoyingly, I was in TK Maxx this afternoon to pick up a mat for pilates and I saw foam rollers. Looked at them and thought, 'Wonder what they are for?' Never mind!

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purplesequins · 29/12/2021 10:17

foamrolling any tight areas after stretching seems to help as well.

look up the specific areas and the roll excercises for that.

purplesequins · 29/12/2021 10:15

I don't know anything about pilates.
but I am seeing a physio due to weak hips and glutes and do some exercises for that.

  • clams (with resistance band)
  • crabwalk (again with resistance band)
  • lounges
  • dying beetle
  • hip flexor walk (knee up and out)

plus stretches
plus running from the back (imagine stepping over broom handles with each step)

good luck.

MetricMs · 29/12/2021 10:03

Op do you massage your legs? I have learnt how to sort out most niggles over the years myself. I’ll feel around my ankle and leg muscles until I find a sore spot then try and follow that muscle. I’ll spend a lot of time digging into to it and trying to loosen up the pain/soften the muscle. If I’m sore I’ll do that every day while watching tv or similar in the evening. Sometimes it will be an area running up along the outer ankle bone, or near the shin bone. Most often (for me) it will be a spot behind my calf muscles, between the shin bone and calf - so I have to really dig in from either side.

I almost always develop a pain if I’m building back up, if I had to have a break for whatever reason, or if I’ve landed badly and over stretched something. I haven’t had a long lasting injury (touch wood) for years by managing my own muscular pain.

Obviously if something doesn’t clear up I would see a medical professional! But usually if I spend time finding out which area is causing the pain then I solve the problem myself.

It sounds like you may have two different issues, lack of core strength and an injury?

Deep0527 · 29/12/2021 04:43

If you can afford it, get some personal training sessions at a gym. Strength training will help your running immensely.

BogRollBOGOF · 29/12/2021 01:35

@pepperminttaste

Oft no. I'd probably die *@Shopgirl1*! Grin What you say makes sense though.

The physio started me running for only 1min × 6 with 5min walking intervals then I slowly (very slowly) tried to build it up, checking in with her every few weeks. I had eventually built up to running 5k but with a few walking intervals of 1min included. Still had some pain and was just getting frustrated.

Anyway, I quit completely about 3 months ago, hoping that a proper rest would help, doing only the physio exercises (but sporadically). Last week, I did two slow 3k runs and all seemed fine. I did 4k this morning and I think I'm okay. Slight niggle in my right ankle but I'm hyper sensitive about any aches now. Will give it a few days and do another 4k.

At the minute, I'd just be happy to do 5k regularly, pain free. Not too bothered about >10k.

I'd return to C25k to build up and see where your tolerance is in addition to the pilates and other advice.
pepperminttaste · 28/12/2021 20:05

I suppose that might be worth a shot too if I can get an appointment. Will maybe do that before I see another physio.

Thanks for all the advice. I appreciate it! Smile

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Shopgirl1 · 28/12/2021 19:59

Have you spoken to your GP? I wonder might it be worth getting an x ray? I don’t think a virtual consultation is sufficient to make a diagnosis, I’d be concerned you might be causing harm running with an injury, especially if it’s not improving after rest.
There are people who have never ran, carrying weight and completely unfit, and they manage couch to 5k with no core issues, I’d be surprised if yours was weaker given your running history.
Just to caveat I’m not a medical professional, just a keen runner. In your shoes id seek more medical advice.

pepperminttaste · 28/12/2021 19:36

I'll do that, thanks. Will see how that goes and maybe get in touch with another sports physio who can see me in person.

The injury happened in a really bizarre way. I went for a 10k run, as usual, took a different route and ran over a very, very long stretch of uneven cobbles. Knees started to ache just after the cobbled stretch but I continued home.

By that afternoon, I couldn't bend my knees and I had to hobble for days. Really random.

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Shopgirl1 · 28/12/2021 19:30

Try 5.5km next at a really easy pace if you feel up to it. I think you need to be seen though, I’ve never heard of a weak core leading to pain like this, I’d be nervous it could be something else that needs different treatment.

pepperminttaste · 28/12/2021 19:25

Yes, probably, given the sessions were all virtual. She watched me do a variety of exercises and then pointed out what she saw to come to that conclusion.

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Shopgirl1 · 28/12/2021 18:35

Weak..

Shopgirl1 · 28/12/2021 18:35

I don’t think that sounds like a week core. Would it be worth getting a second opinion? It sounds like you still have an injury.

pepperminttaste · 28/12/2021 16:54

Oft no. I'd probably die @Shopgirl1! Grin What you say makes sense though.

The physio started me running for only 1min × 6 with 5min walking intervals then I slowly (very slowly) tried to build it up, checking in with her every few weeks. I had eventually built up to running 5k but with a few walking intervals of 1min included. Still had some pain and was just getting frustrated.

Anyway, I quit completely about 3 months ago, hoping that a proper rest would help, doing only the physio exercises (but sporadically). Last week, I did two slow 3k runs and all seemed fine. I did 4k this morning and I think I'm okay. Slight niggle in my right ankle but I'm hyper sensitive about any aches now. Will give it a few days and do another 4k.

At the minute, I'd just be happy to do 5k regularly, pain free. Not too bothered about >10k.

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Shopgirl1 · 28/12/2021 14:48

Are you trying to do 12km right away? Can you build up gradually? If you can do 3km now, can you try 3.5km next time and ensure you have a rest day between each run where you do something else - walking even? I find running alone has strengthened my core hugely. I use the gym for building up leg strength - hills and sprints great for this also, but I think you should build up flat easy running first. Also don’t do speed work at the moment, just slow easy runs to build up.

doadeer · 27/12/2021 17:12

In person pilates with a good teacher. Easy to have bad form

oftenbaffled · 27/12/2021 17:07

If you were doing 12k, you’ll get there

That’s pretty sporty!

pepperminttaste · 27/12/2021 17:02

Well, I've tried a couple of YouTube workouts but I'm terrible at them. A big part of my problem is that I'm just not a sporty person so my form is terrible. I don't trust that I'm following the instructions properly at all.

However, I've found a physio-led pilates class nearby, starting in January so that's a start. I'll get back in touch with the physio I was seeing on zoom as well. I really liked her and I suppose she might be seeing people in person now.

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ThursdayLastWeek · 27/12/2021 10:16

I would recommend Pilates too. A really good quality instructor with small numbers in a class is the gold standard IMO and will really help you get in tune with your body.

I second (third fourth etc) going to see a proper, paid sports physio which will really help explain what’s wrong and why said exercises will help you.

Personally I believe body pump is injury city, even though it is fun.
I also would recommend lifting particularly heavy until you’ve ironed out your imbalances and core strength. No reason you can’t start with smaller weights though, every little helps etc etc

OverByYer · 24/12/2021 14:20

Another vote for yoga here, I combine it with running and since I have I get far fewer injuries. in fact I enjoy yoga more than running now.

BogRollBOGOF · 24/12/2021 14:12

A regular routine of yoga/ pilates is relatively easy to fit in, and adding physio exercise to the session gives it more context.

Adding weights sessions is worth doing (circuits classes is a good place to begin). I've got pbs when I've done weights work rather than more running based, and moves like deadlifts have activated my glutes better than just running.

I'm with you on the open water swimming, but now isn't the best moment!

Hankunamatata · 24/12/2021 10:22

Pilates. You dont need coordination. Pick an intro or beginners or one for injuries

oftenbaffled · 24/12/2021 09:04

Very experienced runner here

You need to find some very hilly routes and walk. Walk walk walk.
Combine with yoga
And low weights workouts

SuperJune · 24/12/2021 08:58

I recommend yoga! I built up to running 11k this year, (touch wood) no injuries and I think that's because my other main hobby is yoga.

Yoga you could do in your own home via YouTube, and then when you feel more confident go to a class Smile I adore it, I tend to do it every day (when not on Xmas hols...) and do either a slower or faster pace class.

I do yoga with Adriene's 'cool down' sequence after my 10k+ runs and they really help, otherwise after running I do any sequence I fancy either with Adriene, Fightmaster Yoga or others. I do it on days when I don't run too.

Every year Adriene does a 30 days of yoga for January where she releases a new video every day - so it's the perfect time to start! Enjoy x