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Does anyone know about overtraining?

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overtrain · 30/11/2021 07:15

I've recently worked out that I may have been overtraining: I was doing anywhere between 4-8 hours every day (mix of cardio, jogging, cycling, weights, yoga, fast walking). I wasn't taking rest days as I felt fantastic and just didn't feel the need.

I upped it recently due to stresses at work. I've not been sleeping well, and my BMI is a bit low.

On Saturday I woke up feeling awful, pulse racing, couldn't stop. I started properly looking at Fitbit data, and my heart rate has gone from low 70s to mid 80s in the last month, and my HRV rate has dropped from 40s to 20s.

I've now had 3 days of no exercise, eating more, and meditation apps, and my heart rate has dropped one point.

I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if I've permanently damaged myself here?

I'm also desperate to exercise again as I miss it, and wondering when I can get back to it.

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drpet49 · 05/12/2021 20:15

* You're definitely going down the route of an unhealthy relationship with exercise. Addiction even.*

^This. You are addicted and need to seek help. What you are doing is not normal at all.

Lampzade · 05/12/2021 20:14

I exercise a lot, but your exercise regime is definitely excessive.
Is there a reason why you exercise so much?

DaftVader42 · 05/12/2021 20:11

PT is a great idea. You can set your goals and they’ll give you a safe programme.

Lbnc2021 · 05/12/2021 20:07

I’m a personal trainer and an athlete, the most I train is 1 hour a day 5 days a week and I eat like a horse. Your regime is totally excessive.

lljkk · 05/12/2021 20:04

How do you have so much time for exercise? When do you work, sleep, shop, clean, cook or do life admin?

MsMartini · 01/12/2021 08:49

I think it is really good you have taken a pause and are going to talk to someone. I feel the same as you about exercise though - it makes me feel great and is a brilliant stress-buster. I think as long as I am sensible with rest days and have a balanced and mixed regime, that is a lot better for me than the other stress-busters available (I barely drink, for example). And again, I would say it depends how those hours of exercise are made up. If I do a tough bootcamp on a Saturday (1 hr), then walk/cycle with a friend (3 hrs) then do some gentle Pilates with dh (1hr), that adds up to a lot, but only one hour of that was intense, the rest, for me, was just being active and having a good weekend. I am not saying this applies t you at all, but I do think it is important to distinguish between intense exercise that really takes it out of you, and having a generally active lifestyle that includes say walking and cycling as means of getting places/having fun/socialising.

FlowerArranger · 30/11/2021 18:38

I agree with the above, especially gentle restorative yoga, mindfulness, meditation, and progressive relaxation techniques

Maybe you are a bit stressed and overwhelmed and need to recalibrate Flowers

plinkyplanky · 30/11/2021 17:37

Jumping in with my two cents here... it sounds like potentially a combo of overtraining and under-recovering could be going on here. Training creates a stress on the body, and recovery allows you to well.. recover from that. Recovery would typically include eating enough (and a good balance of protein, carbs and fats - ie. all the macro nutrients, not leaving out carbs or something), SLEEP (massively important - and good restful sleep at that), and things like gentle restorative yoga, mindfulness, meditation, and progressive relaxation techniques (youtube it) can all be included there.

It sounds like you might be using exercise for stress relief - based on the fact you're kind of itching to do more now even when you rationally should be resting and are feeling out of sorts. Do you have other avenues for stress relief? That might be something to explore.

I think your mileage with a personal trainer will vary enormously depending on their experience and skill level. I would suggest looking into the work of Renee McGregor or Bernadette Dancy (both have a lot of info on instagram) for more specific stuff on overtraining, under-recovering, eating disorders and training for women.

Resting, eating enough nutritious food, and practicing other ways to relieve stress might be a starting point. If you don't sleep well, perhaps looking at 'sleep hygiene' would be useful to you too.

overtrain · 30/11/2021 17:19

I haven't been eating enough to be honest - I've just about balanced out calories in and out on Fitbit but also dropped slightly most days.

I do wonder about eating disorders (although I go back and forth on whether I have one or not). I ate a good few thousand calories extra over the weekend to try and feel better, and have felt miserable all day as I've put on 3 pounds.

I've got a lunchtime slot with a local personal trainer tomorrow and have outlined the issues to her, I'm hoping she can help.

I just did a 20 minute yoga session and it was a great start but I wanted to keep pushing and do more and more. I think I should pause on doing anything else except walking until I've talked to her.

In terms of addiction - yes, I just love exercise, love being active all the time, it makes me feel brilliant, and up to last weekend I kept feeling increasingly energetic and happy and proud of myself. It's helped so much with the stress of changing jobs - I'm in a great role now but am also painfully homesick for my old team and life, I'm not good at change.

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HundredMilesAnHour · 30/11/2021 16:13

Sounds like you're massively over-training to me. To be honest, the fact that you say you've only "recently worked out that you MAY be overtraining" is a big red flag.

You're definitely going down the route of an unhealthy relationship with exercise. Addiction even. What are using exercise to escape from? Work stress? Or is there more to it than that? (I'm assuming yes as you really seem to be overdoing it).

Simonjt · 30/11/2021 15:58

I’m a semi professional sportsman, when I was a fulltime professional sportsman I trained for 12 hours a week.

How much are you eating?!

FlowerArranger · 30/11/2021 15:58

Maybe cut back on the high intensity stuff and focus more on yoga and average-speed walking, plus a bit of fairly gentle weight training?

MsMartini · 30/11/2021 15:54

Mmm..no-one here can tell you if you have been overtraining, or done damage. If you are concerned, do talk to your GP.

If you include slow cycling, yoga/pilates and brisk walking, I would quite often do hours a day of exercise, much just to go about my daily life/get places. For me, running (slowly!) and strength training are intense exercise, and I do 1-2 hours most days of them but take - and need - rest days. I haven't read or seen anything that suggests healthy active people need rest days from walking, cycling etc though.

onlyreadingneverposting8 · 30/11/2021 13:24

I can sympathise as I've had to cut my own exercise in the past few years. I do 1hr a day and stay generally active. Glad the doctor doesn't think there's anything particularly wrong. In the meantime I'd stick to walking and more gentle exercise like Pilates (if you like it - I hate Pilates!)

overtrain · 30/11/2021 12:48

My GP wasn't bothered at all really, said anything up to 100 was normal, and suggested I just try to eat a bit more and exercise less.

When I mentioned that my pulse racing in my ears was annoying, he said maybe those were palpitations, so booked me in for an ECG in a few weeks time, so I guess they'll find out more then.

I've emailed a local personal trainer based on their website and enquired about working with them.

I am desperate to start exercising again, it's all I can do resist, so there's something in the "addiction" comment.

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onlyreadingneverposting8 · 30/11/2021 09:12

I'm sure they would! I'd make sure your heart is all good first though! X

overtrain · 30/11/2021 09:02

Definitely not an athlete!

I'll try to talk to my GP today.

Would a personal trainer start seeing you if you were beginning from a position of needing to take it easy for a while?

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onlyreadingneverposting8 · 30/11/2021 08:04

Unless you're an athlete that's a massive amount of training and sounds like an addiction/problem - definitely not healthy and in fact very bad for you in the long run.
I would consult a personal trainer if I were you and get some qualified advice and see your GP re your heart.