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I'm finally using bigger weights at body pump!

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Invasionofthegutsnatchers · 24/08/2021 14:21

I took my time increasing as wanted to work on my form and not get injured. Now I lift
5kg each side + bar for squat track
5kg plate for squats
3.5kg each side for chest
2.5kg each side for biceps/ triceps
2.5kg plates for lunges and shoulders
And I can actually do the core track!

I've never had any muscle tone and love feeling strong. Others in my class lift much heavier but it's progress for me Grin

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StellaAndCrow · 29/08/2021 19:15

Everyone, thank you so much for the advice! (and I've just realised what "plates" refers to :) ).

Thank you for explaining about body pump - I understand now. And about how lifting progress works.

It's really good hearing how you've built it up starting with just the bar

I do love the idea of classes being addictive - it would be brilliant to be addicted to something healthy for a change!

I really appreciate you all taking the time to explain things - I'm going to read it all again now. I think I'm going to look into getting a couple of sessions with a trainer to get me started.

HermioneWeasley · 29/08/2021 17:28

Well done OP, it’s great to get stronger isn’t it?

FizzyPink · 29/08/2021 09:37

Ahhh I miss body pump so much. I’m in a bit of a dilemma at the moment as the gyms near us are pretty pants and I can’t justify paying for a good one near work when I only go in two days a week now.
I did try the Les Mills at home option but it’s just not the same as being in an actual class.

KaycePollard · 29/08/2021 09:33

I mean, if I want to work towards proper lifting, should I start with body pump classes, or something else?

Thing is, Body Pump and proper lifting are two totally different things.

Body Pump is essentially cardio exercise, with small added weight, but you'd get pretty much the same effect using your body weight.

Actual weight lifting uses a different training method: you train to failure. You train each session to the point where you can't lift/pull/press the weight. But you do it carefully, slowly, and with correct technique. You don't bang out the reps. If you're lifting heavy, you maybe do 5 sets of 5 reps. You rest for up to 2 minutes between sets.

That is, you use what's called a 'progressive programme.' You don't lift more than 3 times a week (I do it twice, plus a Bootcamp class which uses relatively heavy kettlebells etc). And you plan each week to add a little bit more weight, until you reach the point of failure - without hurting yourself - so you take it sloooow. You might spend a lot of time on a plateau, building strength for the next step up.

For example, I hit a deadlifting personal best (PB) of 90kg a couple of weeks ago (I'm in my 60s - younger women can lift much heavier ,ore easily) and now I"m training multiple reps in a set (up to 5) at anything between 75 and 80kg. I do maybe 5 sets of 3-5 reps at 75 or 80kg, and by the 4th set I can feel the fatigue! So I know that keeps on building my basic strength for the next time I try to add a couple of kilos to the 90kg.

Squatting - I've been doing a lot of other stuff over lockdown, and since gyms reopened, haven't really focused on squats (b/c I love deadlifting!). Did weighted back squats the other day at 40kg really easily - 5 sets of 10 reps. Tired at the end, but felt good.

Before lockdown March 2020, my personal best 1 rep for a back squat was 62kg, so I'm training at 60% of my PB, and am actually coming back stronger - I did a LOT (I means probably hundreds each week) of bodyweight squats over the last 18 months. I'm now working on getting better depth (ass to grass) while not allowing my lower back to flex (I think it's called "butt wink") - when your tailbone sort of tucks under at the bottom of a squat. So squats help with mobility as well.

Also technique: the technique I see some individuals using in Pump classes is sometimes not good, and participants don't get individual, hands-on corrections of form, unless it's a mall class. Even then, I've seen people ignore the instructor's coaching & corrections, despite the instructor giving clear & expert guidance. Very stupid.

NeverRTFT · 29/08/2021 06:19

Love body pump but I lift puny weights. It's all I can do. My muscles are giving out and trembling by the end of the track! Then the music restarts and you realise you have to do the track all over again on the other side!! ConfusedGrin
Absolutely love it. Really pushes me

Coogee · 29/08/2021 05:46

I mean, if I want to work towards proper lifting, should I start with body pump classes, or something else? I'm a bit nervous of the gym, and feel a bit clueless.

Is there somebody who can show you what to do? Free weights require a definite technique. I have a trainer and that helps. I started off lifting just the bar and I’m now deadlifting 115.

missnevermind · 29/08/2021 05:10

😊 The title really did make me smile. When I first started body pump I only used the bar - no weights on it.
It is all about you. Not the person next to you showing off.

Invasionofthegutsnatchers · 29/08/2021 04:39

@StellaAndCrow I joined a gym.in April and was totally unfit. And fat. I did some yoga classes for a few weeks then saw body pump on the timetable and gave it a go with no idea what it involved. I started with 1kg plates on the bar. I really enjoyed the class and decided to keep going and become strong. The classes were addictive!

The Les Mills classes are fantastic. If there are classes in your area why not try one? Or you can do a free trial of the online version and do it at home. You will need your own bar and plates but not necessarily the LM branded equipment which is expensive. Personally I found the instructors really encouraging and that helped me keep going when it was tough. They also check your form which is really important. I love classes in general for the buzz of working out with other people and also not being tempted to quit half way through!

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Surewhynot · 28/08/2021 23:52

That’s great, well done!

I’m a body pump fan as well. I do two classes a week and would do more if there were suitable times.

I had a not great experience with PT when I tried to book sessions specifically for weight training. The trainer was clearly more used to working with ripped tattooed Essex boys and had no idea what to do with a middle aged fat menopausal woman even though I explained clearly that I wanted to build strength. He got me on some resistance machines to start with but then failed to turn up for the next session.

StellaAndCrow · 28/08/2021 23:33

I mean, if I want to work towards proper lifting, should I start with body pump classes, or something else? I'm a bit nervous of the gym, and feel a bit clueless.

StellaAndCrow · 28/08/2021 23:30

Invasion wow, well done!

I'd love to work towards being able to do that. I'm very unfit, and though I need to lose weight, I'm just as concerned about improving my strength .

Could you or anyone else advise me how you got started? I would really appreciate any simple advice on starting out.

Thank you very much.

KaycePollard · 28/08/2021 21:59

Have fun! I love proper deadlifting.

Invasionofthegutsnatchers · 28/08/2021 20:29

I've had to cancel pump tomorrow so I'm going to lift some heavier weights in the gym instead. Feeling brave!

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KaycePollard · 28/08/2021 16:49

I've been doing pump for over 10 years and I'm not doing much heavier than that

Hmmmm, different things for different people.

I began proper lifting about 3 years ago, and now lift heavy twice a week, plus a Bootcamp/HIIT class which uses fairly heavy weights (16 kg kettlebell, 10 kg flies etc).

Sometimes I do a Pump class for fun & the cardio rush - I find that I tend to use much heavier weights in Pump than I did before I lifted heavy. So I tend to squat around 15kg & deadlift 20kg in Pump - doing proper lifting means I can also do more in Pump, and get a full cardio work out as well.

Heavy lifting is one of the easiest ways to get really fit. No boring hours on the treadmill, for a start!

suckingonchillidogs · 28/08/2021 16:45

@JoyDivisionOvenGlovesx

Well done OP!

I returned to bodypump on Monday, after 4 weeks off. Yesterday was ow. Today is owwwwewwwwwwwewewewew. And all stairs are bastards.

But I’m still going to the class tonight 😁

I haven't been for about 18 months - it's gonna kill me isn't it?!
KaycePollard · 28/08/2021 16:43

It’s a mix of cardio and a bit of resistance, if you really want to test yourself you could try doing body pump 2 x per week, then on the other day doing a weights workout, where you might lift heavier weights but do fewer reps than in BD. It would help more with muscle mass, if that’s your goal

This!

And when you lift heavy, not only reduce the reps, but do them more slowly and check your form - the number of people I see squatting really badly in Body Pump is scary ...

And take proper rest breaks - after lifting a heavy set of reps, you need at least 60 secs recovery time. And then stretch really thoroughly afterwards (the 30 second stretches at the end of most group classes are really not long enough ...)

Invasionofthegutsnatchers · 25/08/2021 14:25

Oh I'm exhausted, struggling to finish each track and dripping in sweat.

Go hard or go home! 💪

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KatharinaRosalie · 25/08/2021 14:07

Bodypump is of course not powerlifting, but you don't need to be afraid of adding weight either. If you want the best results, you want to be exhausted after each track. And most people in an average bodypump class are not working at that level but could easily add some.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 25/08/2021 08:50

Well done! Pump is low weight high rep so those weights are brilliant.

I've been doing pump for over 10 years and I'm not doing much heavier than that 😁

JoyDivisionOvenGlovesx · 25/08/2021 08:49

Well done OP!

I returned to bodypump on Monday, after 4 weeks off. Yesterday was ow. Today is owwwwewwwwwwwewewewew. And all stairs are bastards.

But I’m still going to the class tonight 😁

Invasionofthegutsnatchers · 24/08/2021 19:18

I might be brave and do some free weights in the gym! Thanks for the encouragement Smile

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Shirleyphallus · 24/08/2021 18:59

I think body pump is absolutely brilliant for introducing weights to people, in a way that feels really welcoming. Well done on upping your weights.

It’s a mix of cardio and a bit of resistance, if you really want to test yourself you could try doing body pump 2 x per week, then on the other day doing a weights workout, where you might lift heavier weights but do fewer reps than in BD. It would help more with muscle mass, if that’s your goal Smile

KatharinaRosalie · 24/08/2021 18:55

Yes I have a significant difference in calories as well comparing when I'm working on a hard but comfortable level or when I really push myself.
3x week is great.

Invasionofthegutsnatchers · 24/08/2021 17:26

I go 3x a week. Fell out of love with cardio since I started pump.

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Pinkycheeks · 24/08/2021 15:16

That’s great well done! How many times a week? I’m hoping to increase weights soon. Thanks for sharing, it’s motivating!