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Are proper running shoes meant to be agony?

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QuentinInQuarantino · 23/02/2021 08:38

I started running in my old, flat, holey Nike Roshe trainers and completed the couch to 5k but with knee and hip joint pain I decided to buy some shoes which are designed for running in and bought the Nike Pegasus.

I've had to abort the last two runs after 10 minutes because of awful calf muscle pain as well as very sore feet.

They fit and are comfy until I am actually running in them.

(I can't go did a gait analysis as no running shops are open)

Is it a case of wearing them in? Will it get better!? Thank you.

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TheChosenTwo · 01/03/2021 20:05

Oh bloody hell, I bought some Pegasus Zoom during lockdown when I couldn’t get to the proper running shop for gait analysis. They were an expensive mistake!!! £125 later and I hate putting them on. I get real foot pain when I run in them which I don’t in my other ‘fashion’ trainers that I used to run in.
I need to wait for the shop to open and get measured up properly and try again. Mine were definitely money down the drain!
As an aside, they are totally ugly and not the kind of thing I would wear anywhere other than pounding the pavements in the dark Hmm

QuentinInQuarantino · 27/02/2021 09:18

My last 5k effort in my old shoes was 39 mins so I feel like these have helped!!

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QuentinInQuarantino · 27/02/2021 09:11

Hello everyone!

Boring update.

I took a couple of days off as suggested and then ran 20 mins and found the pain was lower. After another rest day this morning I ran a 5k and got a personal best! (35.18 Blush)

My calves don't hurt at all but after 3k my feet were starting to hurt and by 5k they hurt quite a bit. I even took a paracetamol before the run.

The pain is in both feet under the front balls of my feet (under the toes?) and also a lot on the right side of my right foot - the bit the other side of the arch)

What would you recommend I do? Now that the calves are okay is it likely to be the same with the feet after a while? I can go to a sports shop today but they don't have a gait analysis service.

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clary · 24/02/2021 14:16

@TheHoundsofLove

clary I don’t think there’s any problem with running daily if you’re an experienced runner and you’re used to it. I do think it’s likely to be too much for someone who has recently completed C25K and is getting used to new trainers though. I wouldn’t continue to wear trainers that were causing me any sort of acute pain. But, I think a muscular ache is likely caused by overdoing it and getting used to trainers that are more cushioned / alter how you run slightly.
yes that's a very good point and valid, sorry op, maybe ease up on it for a bit, take rest days
emmathedilemma · 24/02/2021 12:38

Calf pain can often be due to the heel drop of your trainers. The Roshe ones are probably quite a low heel drop whereas the Pegasus are 10mm. I'm more surprised you don't have shin splints from the Roshes!

TheHoundsofLove · 24/02/2021 10:39

clary I don’t think there’s any problem with running daily if you’re an experienced runner and you’re used to it. I do think it’s likely to be too much for someone who has recently completed C25K and is getting used to new trainers though.
I wouldn’t continue to wear trainers that were causing me any sort of acute pain. But, I think a muscular ache is likely caused by overdoing it and getting used to trainers that are more cushioned / alter how you run slightly.

Changeychange1 · 24/02/2021 07:51

My Nike Pegasus have caused blisters Sad

clary · 24/02/2021 07:49

Echo others OP, they shouldn't hurt. Good advice here already, but let me add I run every day and have for years, I am in my 50s and if my running shoes make my legs or feet hurt, I stop wearing them.

I had some Sauconys that were agony so I sold them in eBay after a couple of wears. But it's not running daily that's an issue.

Butternutsqoosh · 24/02/2021 07:47

Here are mine!

Are proper running shoes meant to be agony?
Butternutsqoosh · 24/02/2021 07:46

Morning, those don't look suitable at all for running, you need proper support for your foot. I bought a new pair of ASICS 2 days ago and they are so comfy, to replace my old battered pair! I did the questionnaire online to ensure I got the right fitting pair for the way I run. I had treated myself to some trail running ASICS but I can't wear them as they are so inflexible due to the grip, but these are like running on marshmallows. Send yours back, get a pair specially designed for running or you will cause an injury

QuentinInQuarantino · 23/02/2021 17:16

@fellrunner85 thank you. I have until the end of March if I need to return them so I'm my plan is to try what you've recommended. I can always go for a long run at the weekend in my old awful trainers.

I had a health scare and an determined to do this!

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QuentinInQuarantino · 23/02/2021 17:14

@Labobo I don't get any pain in the fashion trainers and that's what I was hoping this was about, the fact that my muscles are like "whaaaaat is going on?" And my joints are enjoying a break!

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QuentinInQuarantino · 23/02/2021 15:59

@Cpl1586407

How did you run at all in those roshes they are basically fashion shoes!

Agree with posters who say it may take a little time. Don't run every day. make sure you warm up and warm down your muscles before and after running (great 5-10 vids on this on YouTube), stretch every day even if you are not running.

I know! That's why I bought proper grown up ones!!

Thank you. I will keep you posted!

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Labobo · 23/02/2021 15:57

Do you get the pain if you run in your old shoes?

Is it possible that the bounce in the new cushioned shoes is causing you to lengthen your stride? Shorten it again - really short, almost too short, so that you can find a way of being really light on your feet while you run in the new shoes, then lengthen it gradually, maybe.

Cpl1586407 · 23/02/2021 15:48

How did you run at all in those roshes they are basically fashion shoes!

Agree with posters who say it may take a little time. Don't run every day. make sure you warm up and warm down your muscles before and after running (great 5-10 vids on this on YouTube), stretch every day even if you are not running.

fellrunner85 · 23/02/2021 15:42

Some really bad advice on this thread (though some good advice too!)

Firstly, Pegs are an absolute classic running shoe for a reason. They're now on their 37th model precisely because they're cushioned, supportive, neutral, and suit almost everybody. Personally, I wouldnt run in anything else on the roads now, after years of working through Hoka, Brooks, Asics and the rest. Pegs are just a very, very, good and versatile shoe for everything from short runs to marathons and above.

The "almost everybody" is key though. They won't suit absolutely everyone and there is a chance they're not right for you, OP. From all you've said, though, I suspect that's the wrong conclusion to immediately jump to.

It seems much more likely that running in a cushioned and supportive shoe for the first time is making you run "properly", after previously flat-footedly "slapping" the ground in your unsupportive shoes. That means your muscles will be having to adapt to firing properly, and it's not surprising they're complaining about that!

What's also exacerbating the situation, I suspect, is running in them every day. Even slight heel-toe drops take adapting to, so a massive change from old and flat shoes to a really decent shoe will be massive. You need to adapt slowly.

I would recommend breaking them in gently and building up slowly in the new shoes. Foam rolling will also help the muscle pain. Good luck!

SoCrimeaRiver · 23/02/2021 14:39

My DH uses Asics trainers, and found he needs a size larger than he uses for day to day / walking. Maybe try a larger size or a different brand? He's on his 2nd and 3rd pair of Asics - he looked at some online reviews for suggestions of cheaper end quality trainers.

QuentinInQuarantino · 23/02/2021 14:11

Thanks. I talked to two running friends here and they don't think gait analysis is a thing in this country! But they all know their own gait. One suggested a podiatrist but that seems extreme. They also didn't like the look of my Nike Pegasuses, they didn't think they look supportive enough.

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lastqueenofscotland · 23/02/2021 13:22

They aren’t meant to hurt no!
However running every day if you aren’t an experienced runner is a shit idea too. It may be fatigue rather than the shoes. I run every day, but it’s taken me running for 6 years to build up to that!

TheHoundsofLove · 23/02/2021 12:05

Of course, it could be that the trainers aren't suitable for you. But, I also think it's possible that you could just be overdoing it, especially as what you're describing sounds more muscular ache than pain...

TheHoundsofLove · 23/02/2021 11:59

I think that, especially if you're a relatively new runner, it could be the daily running that is causing the problems - I'd have a couple of days rest and then try them again.

QuentinInQuarantino · 23/02/2021 11:55

@ThatIsNotMyUsername that is true, they are amazing at accepting returns. I have until the end of March so I will try and contact a running shop. I'm meeting my marathon running friend soon so I'll ask him to recommend a local one and I'll call them.

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spottygymbag · 23/02/2021 11:51

Google the heel drop measurement. If you're very used to one set of shoes and tend towards tighter muscles it can play havoc. Agree with all the others though- not good if they're causing you pain.
If it's your calf hurting have you been checked or googled about calf strain?

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 23/02/2021 11:34

Please see if you can return them - Amazon are good for this. They will do you more harm than good - you can really hurt your knees and back wearing the wrong shoes (and the older you get, the worse this is!).

I always get gait analysis from the running store I buy mine from - I wonder if stores will be able to do this from a home made video?

Don't be disheartened - it's ot you, it's the shoe! I like Saucony or Brooks but I always go the the shop to try them out.

QuentinInQuarantino · 23/02/2021 11:26

These are the old and new shoes. I think they look quite similar on the heel, but I don't know what I'm looking for. The main difference seems to be the cushioning. I'll wear them at work today (will be dancing!) to see if it's just running that hurts. I'll take spares!

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