Anyone else doing marathon-type training?

What sort of rash? Did you over exert yourself more than normal so it could be an immune response rash? Or a rubbing from clothing rash? I’d phone your GP if seriously concerned as it maybe symptomatic of something else. Take care.

I’m ultra marathon training... my first 100 miler in May (all being well).
Long distance running is just about covering the distance; It’s about practising your dual, your clothing and if you can doing a recce of the route.

Leading up to my first 100km event last September, I was doing a 25 - 30 mile training event every fortnight.

Fuel is key.. I eat real food, little and often: sandwiches, malt loaf, crisps, pasta shots, flap jack... And don’t underestimate the need to remain hydrated.

That Metropolis race looks really fun... Would love to hear how it goes. We are already signed up to Autumn 100 a week later so not one for this year for me.

I know what you mean, I would definitely feel a bit weird about that and might take some of the fun out of it so I was happy that a couple of friends wanted to do a team. That app looks fun, cheers!

You might like this.... it’s an app (photo attached)

Oooh Annoy it's called Metropolis - www.metropolis.run I am not sure of the status of entries, mine was rolled over from last year, but if you're on FB join the Beyond Marathon group and ask on there - Richard the RD is super responsive and will help. You can do solo or team, I'm in a team with a couple of friends. It's a new event I think, so I don't know how much info there is on it out there but the FB group will have some stuff.

JohnMcCainsDeathStare 2 months is a bit long, you'll either be knackered from constant long runs by the time of the race or off the boil totally. Your longest run should be 3 or 4 weeks from race day and then taper.

Blue5238 I loved it but this time I'm going to do some proper focused hill training because the elevation killed me - my achilles were so messed up by the end I was going up hill sideways because I couldn't bend my ankles. But I am a relative slow coach and was overtaken by several of the 50 mile racers by the end - who all looked far too bouncy and perky for my liking. However I finished well within the cutoffs which for my first ultra I was quite pleased with. It's definitely closer to 55k than 50 though. But this time I know what I am in for so there's gonna be some serious training this time haha.

I do a lot of orienteering and will be doing to mini OMM in The Lakes in May 😀

Like felrunner85 I find road marathons harder. I really struggle to eat at a constant fast-ish pace, whereas I'm fine eating on the uphills in a trail ultra

Its easy to hit a wall at 18 miles in a marathon. Not all marathons are like London. There are tough ones there and it can easily happen

This is a bit of a non-sequitur!
Never done London but I've done road marathons, trail marathons and mountain marathons. If anything I've found the road ones harder as its all about maintaining a constant - fast! - speed, and being completely focused on the clock.

Whereas on a trail course, the focus isn't so much on time, but about the race and where you place. In my experience, people aren't clock watching as the times just don't translate in the same way, and as a result the race isn't one constant slog. You get a bit of a breather on the downhills, for example. Not saying people don't hit the wall on hilly marathons. They do. But it doesn't happen as often.... not least because you usually have to carry your own supplies, so will have more gels etc to hand than you might on a road race.

Also, the point about hitting the wall is that it happens when you're going beyond a state you're body is used to. Most people should be used to running 18 miles before race day. Not so many will be used to running 22 miles though.

Teaandahobnob, I haven't done it before. Thought it would be good training for an ultra in Oct that will have a fair amount of night running. I loooove flat coke on long races

@Blue5238 it is! How funny we're both doing it, it's only a small race. Have you done it before? I did it in 2019 and bonked really hard on the last lap - flat coke totally saved me. You could say I have some unfinished business with it

Hello everyone
Currently trying to get the mileage up as booked various ultras I am really hoping happen later in the year.... Including a night one in July Teaandahobnob....is yours WW?
Only managed one short trail race in 2020 a and whilst I kept running didn't do distance training. So increasing long runs but also trying to keep some speed and hill work in the week, and a bit of HIIT as I think being stronger would help.

Ooh - glad I found this thread. I am currently running 10k about 3x per week but would like to find a training plan to build that up.
Will look at Runners World and Hanson. I am over 50 and have a history of pulling muscles so want to build up safely and gently

Running a sub 60 10k is totally different to what you will be doing. You need to learn to drop your pace.

Its easy to hit a wall at 18 miles in a marathon. Not all marathons are like London. There are tough ones there and it can easily happen

Exactly - if you fuel correctly, it shouldn't happen. The classic error is to think you need to take on fuel at a certain mileage interval (say, every 5 miles) and practice that in training. But then on race day you go faster than you do in training, your fuelling plan isn't sufficient, and you bonk out.

Another classic error, which I've fallen foul of, is to choose to rely on gels provided during the race rather than carrying your own stuff. Never a sensible option!

Correct, as I understand it people only hit a wall when they haven't fuelled sufficiently throughout the race. I've never experienced it during marathon/ultra marathons.
I think it's about 1g of carbohydrate per kg of body weight per hour that you need to take on.

Isn't 30K though where you would expect to 'hit the wall' (glycogen depletion)?

No - 30k is only 18 miles and you really wouldn't expect to hit the wall so soon in a marathon. It would be a pretty dire last 8 miles to get through! That said, it's different for everyone and also depends how far you've consistently run in training, as well as how you've fuelled.
For me, the "wall" has come at 23 miles each time. In subsequent marathons I trained better and fuelled better so it didn't happen...

Hi everyone. I've got a 24 hour race in June (done in a team, it's huge fun), an overnight ultra in July, hopefully Great North Run in Sept, and an orienteering/role play type ultra in October - it sounds weird but I'm really looking forward to it.

All of these were postponed from last year. I want to do Manchester marathon but it clashes with Metropolis. I don't know if any spring marathons are likely to happen or still have places??