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StatisticallyChallenged · 06/06/2016 15:54

So, I've not cycled for years. Last year decided to take up cycling, chose a lovely mountain bike from my local independent bike shop. It was nice. It waa comfortable. The saddle didnt make my tail bones cry. And it was purple. Wink

Then DH persuaded me that it would be a waste to buy new, might not use it, bla bla bla. Ended up buying a second hand one from a local guy who claimed to be a bike mechanic.

Well. He wasn't. First time out, 1/4 mile from home and the mis-sized seat post collapses. Badly fractured knee, fractured elbow, week in hospital, months on zimmer and crutches.

But I've decided I need to try again not least because my dd was with me at the time. I'm not getting back on the heap of shit and I'm not risking second hand again so I've signed up for my works cycle to work scheme. I have up to 600 to spend on a new bike but it has to come from evans.

Can anyone help me work out wtf to buy, as it's like a foreign language! I will mainly be using off road cycle tracks and a bit if town cycling but I'm a bit scared of going for anything with narrower tyres than a mountain bike as I'm pretty nervous now. Unsurprisingly...

I'm about 5'5 with relatively long legs and short body. And, well, I'm not exactly light either - size 16. Keep seeing female so if u mtb which are tuned for the lighter rider. That Ain't MeGrin

Can anyone help a lost wannabe cyclist? Apart from not causing broken bones I'd ideally like something vaguely attractive maybe in purple or pink but I realise that's a long shot and not that important.

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OooLookShoes · 11/06/2016 12:59

Oh bum. That's a pity.

Hope you do find though

StatisticallyChallenged · 08/06/2016 21:08

Unfortunately our scheme is Evans specific - it's not just a letter of intent, you have to sign an agreement for a specific amount then you get the certificate to spend. I can't get one from anywhere else, my employer only works with the Evans scheme.

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OooLookShoes · 08/06/2016 19:41

If you are still reading, don't just go on the website, ask in the shop. Especially in your LBS, it won't say on th website, but you just apply through the scheme get the letter take the letter to the LBS not Evans. the independent shop accepts it as any other payment type.

Out website said it was for big chain shop only, but it wasn't. Ask around in several local bike shops before giving up. I asked at about 7 shops, 5 said no, 2 said yes.

Also I can see how a bmx would be excluded for commuting, they are a stunt type bike, but a cyclocross bike is perfect for commuting, fast, good brakes. That is why cx bikes are selling like hot cakes at the moment.

53rdAndBird · 06/06/2016 20:35

I have a hybrid from Evans' own brand - a Pinnacle Lithium - and I lurve it.

I also live in a hilly city with lots of cobbles, and old railway paths (wondering if we're close by now!) and mostly ride it on roads, tarmaced old railway lines, and a bit of bumpier ground - gravelly hilly paths or gravelly canal towpath. It deals with that ground fine.

Cobbles - easier than I expected when I first got the bike and the tyres seemed so skinny compared to the 90s mountain bikes I rode in the past. There's only one bit of my ride to work, down a really steep cobbly hill, that feels bouncier than I'd like unless I slow right down. I wouldn't get a MTB with suspension just for that, though - not worth it just for one short stretch when the rest is faster on a hybrid. (Plus, I have to go UP that hill the other way, and I don't fancy doing that with an even heavier bike!)

StatisticallyChallenged · 06/06/2016 20:33

Unfortunately I thing our is limited - the actual agreement is with Evans rather than with a more generic scheme. I'll double check that and the cyclocross issue, as the info on our website definitely said BMX were excluded and I'm fairly sure they excluded another type too.

Think there's only one Evans but I'll check ItsAllGoing - I might be wrong about you being local, easy to mix up indyref posters :D I think the cobbles on my street were laid by a drunk person, they're really bad. They were awesome fun on crutches.

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OooLookShoes · 06/06/2016 20:23

You might not be limited to Evans btw.

I bought a c2w bike last year.

We have a similar scheme supposedly limited to one big retailer, but it turns out that a few of the LBS will accept the letter of intent even if it is specific to another retailer.

Also, I got a cyclocross bike, as far as I'm aware you aren't limited to any kind of bike, just needs to be a bike.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 06/06/2016 20:18

I can't remember if you are local or not Blush but if you are in a city have you checked that there isn't more than one Evans? If so you could maybe go to a bigger one to choose a bike, but do the rest through your local one IYSWIM.

After what you said about cobbles I think front suspension is definitely a good idea. I'm a pretty nervous cyclist, and things like cobbles a big bumps hitting a rigid front end can make the bike feel a bit like it's going out of control as the handlebars bounce round quite hard in your hands.

I agree full suspension would be OTT, but definitely look into a decent suspension seat post - it will make your ride more comfortable. I'm a bit meh about the difference between bigger and wee-er wheels - I think that with the same tyres you wouldnt notice much difference.

StatisticallyChallenged · 06/06/2016 20:11

xposted!

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StatisticallyChallenged · 06/06/2016 20:11

Portobelly to be fair whilst I wind DH up about it we bought a second hand bike for him at the same time so he was hardly not caring. The bike didn't look dodgy, was a decent enough brand (Giant) and was bought from someone who sounded like he knew what he was talking about. He clearly didn't. DH thought he was doing the right thing starting with second hand as he was worried it would be a flash in the pan and 2 new bikes plus tag bike, locks, helmets etc adds up to a fair amount to waste.

I live in a very hilly city ( I have a vague recollection that ItsAllGoingToBeFine might be local...) so tbh I don't think 5 or 7 gears would be sufficient. I also live on a very uneven cobbled street - I'll be cycling on a mix of that, roads that have so many pot holes they look like they've been shelled, canal towpath (not tarmac), riverside walkway (not tarmac, kind of compressed dirt with stones), old ex railway paths which are a bit of a mix of surfaces, but we do also have some nice hills very close by which I'd like to get fit enough to cycle around.

I know colour shouldn't matter and I thought it was obvious that the colour was fairly tongue in cheek. However, when I'm trying to pluck up the guts to get back on a bike after being seriously injured then if having a bike I like the look of helps me want to do it then tbh I don't care if it's a bit silly.

I'm limited to Evans for shopping because of my work bike scheme, sadly. They're not the best store locally but the savings from buying it this way make it worthwhile.

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Portobelly · 06/06/2016 19:59

I typed that mammouth post when there weren't many replies. Sorry that I've repeated stuff and suggested a more town riding bike

Portobelly · 06/06/2016 19:53

I really feel for you.
It pisses me off when I hear about husbands having opinions about their wives bike purchase.
Your husband wouldn't have bought himself a dodgy second hand bike,
But it was good enough for you.

But hey.
Looking forward.

When you say 'off road tracks' do you mean mountain paths and woodland dirt tracks, or do you mean segregated Tarmac paths?

If you mean the latter look at a hybrid. Something with relatively narrow tyres.
Narrow tyres mean that the work you are doing by pedalling will be utilised most efficiently.
Which given your level of fitness post injury seems vital.
Fat tyres have more traction and that means more effort is needed to move you along.

I ride a globe live 1 it's inspired by a Dutch bike, but is a sister brand to spealized.
It has a good upright position, with handlebars that are wide apart and don't need you to stretch forward.
This might appeal because it gives you good visibility
Mine has a single gear, but you can get 3 and 7 gear versions,
I'd be surprised if you need more gears than that unless you plan very hilly rides.
I started riding that bike when I met my cyclist husband ( bought it after our first date when I realised it would be tricky dating a cycle messenger if I didn't ride a bike) and within a few weeks I was cycling between 14-40 miles per day. Ten years earlier I had fractured my spine, and a racing bike stance was out of the question. I need to sit up right.

Forget colour ( to start with.)
Go into your local bike shop, local specialist bike shop I should say, and describe the type of riding you want to. Explain the injury, and that you want to be sure to get something that fits you well. And that you hope they can help you.
See what they suggest.
Plenty of on test riding.
Take a good number out, may over a couple of weekends.
When you decide what you think works for you make sure they adjust it for you, saddle height and tip, handle bar height etc etc.

Remember saddles can be Changed.
Forget about the colour.
I wouldn't have chosen a brown bike. But I did. And I love it.

You might not want shoes with cleats that fit into your pedals, but I'd recommend toe clips, that fix to the pedals, and help you keep your foot in the optimum pedalling position.
Again, effective pedalling will reduce the amount of work you need to do to get where you're going.
A lot of people don't have their foot well placed on the pedals, and not only is that inefficient, it can be bad for the muscles in you legs etc.

Cycling is brilliant.
My mental health is much much better,
My love life was vastly improved. We are married and have a kid. And that wouldn't have happened without a pair of wheels. And the adventures we could go on.
And I love feeling my body being strong.
Can't wait to get my son in a child seat and me back in the saddle.

Good luck!

WhereTheFuckIsMyCunt · 06/06/2016 19:23

On roads and tracks I would struggle to ride 5 -10 miles on a mtb. On a hybrid I can easily do 30 miles. It's so much more effort on a mtb. Get any of the hybrids. Grin

WhereTheFuckIsMyCunt · 06/06/2016 19:20

Oh and im quite fat, size 18. I tend to wear blokes cycle clothes. Or halfords have dare2b stuff which goes up to size 18. You also for tops don't need cycling specific stuff. I get a lot of Karrimor tops from sports direct, again up to size 18. Same sort of material. IE wicking and quick drying.

WhereTheFuckIsMyCunt · 06/06/2016 19:17

IMO you don't need suspension for that sort of ground. I admit I'm slightly anti suspension. But I don't have suspension and I frequently ride canal paths, old railways, etc. Ive actually been down snowdon on my mtb and that doesn't have suspension and managed fine.

For non mtb track off roading suspension will add weight and cost and the benefit won't be seen. You could get a non suspension bike and if the cost is the same as the suspension bike next to it then the bike without suspension will generally have better qualityr componements,,,,which I think will be better than suspension.

StatisticallyChallenged · 06/06/2016 18:23

I am going to try going in again ( I did actually go in as they're round the corner) but I think I need to have a bit of an idea first. Their entire woman's mountain bike section was all pinnacle - genuinely don't think they had any other brands which is a bit offputting. They do collect in store so can definitely ship things but it's a case of narrowing it down first as while I'm sure they'll order in a couple...they probably won't do 10!

I agree re the MTBs looking nicer. I don't think I'll be likely to fit racks to it tbh as (naught stats) I won't actually use it to commute day to day. I will need to attach my DD's tag bike if it's just me and her going out but it's a seat post mount so easy to fit to anything.

DH is off out to pick up a new (second hand) bike for himself. He got a really good second hand one last year but some scrote stole it from outside our house. Only thing was we'd taken the seat off his but hadn't bothered with mine as the seat was sideways...the thieves took his bike and my (dodgy) seat post and saddle. Doubt they got very far... Grin

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CMOTDibbler · 06/06/2016 18:12

The hybrids all have 700 wheels which are going to be more efficient, and the Ariel and Trek have front suspension which is more comfortable on bumpy off road bits (the Ariels can be locked out for flat surfaces if you want).
I don't know much about MTBs though, sorry.

FLAB (as they refer to themselves) were set up precisely because the founder was larger than cycle clothing and still wanted technical gear. They go up to a ladies 26, and its all fitted on women of sizes across the size range. I've chatted a lot to them at shows while dh is contemplating new jerseys!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 06/06/2016 18:01

WRT to the MTBs Id be tempted to get a women's one as they tend to have a shorter top tube so may be slightly more comfortable for you out of the box.

WRT to the hybrids I think the MTBs look nicer Blush

You can pretty much turn an MTB into a hybrid by switching the tyres (although hybrids tend to have a higher handlebars). You may find that it is harder to fit racks etc to MTBs too.

Honestly, I'd recommend going into your local Evans and having a chat with them. Explain your budget, and your needs, and that you won't be buying that day. It should be pretty easy for them to ship bikes between stores so they should be able to get some in to try. At your price range you are not going to end up with a shitty bike , you need to worry about comfort and fit and weight etc.

StatisticallyChallenged · 06/06/2016 17:51

Thanks so much everyone! Probably shouldn't have started this thread on a phone as it makes posting links a PITA. Anyhoo...

I'll check out Fat Lad at the back - i'm stupidly curvy (think 30J boobs, elephant arse and you're there!) and the tendency for sports clothes to be so small really annoys me. Just because I'm fat doesn't mean I don't want to exercise.

Those specialized bikes both have potential. Could I please ask opinions on a few I'd been looking at?

Mountains:
Trek xcaliber - they seem to have the Seven, eight and nine, which is a bit over budget but how much better they are than each other is hard for me to judge!

Trek Cali
Scott Contessa
Cube Access WLS Pro

Hybrids:
The Trek Neko
specialized ariel as per upthread
specialized vita as linked

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 06/06/2016 16:40

Off road tracks - there's a lot of former railways and a canal towpath around here. They're not all tarmaced so can be a bit bumpy - more compacted dirt type tracks. The towpath especially can be a bit muddy too.

In that case I would consider suspension - at the price range you are looking at it'd probably be ok.

Also, depending on tyres it comes with maybe look for semi-knobbly puncture proof ones for a bit of extra grip on the mud. The shop should swap those for you.

CMOTDibbler · 06/06/2016 16:33

To get your confidence up, look to see if theres a Breeze ride local to you - they are women only and generally very welcoming.

If you are planning on getting a cycling jersey, can I recommend Fat Lad at the Back who Evans stock. Their stuff is cut to go in and out, don't consider a 12 to be XL, and is a sensible length. Also vvv good quality

massivearse · 06/06/2016 16:28

That Spesh Ariel looks the part.

www.evanscycles.com/specialized-ariel-sport-disc-2016-women-s-hybrid-bike-EV244829

It's got the lot. And enough left of your budget to replace the saddle if the fitted item doesn't suit (although a good bike shop would do that in the price if they wanted your money)

Enjoy whatever you end up with.

StatisticallyChallenged · 06/06/2016 16:25

X posted several times - I am pretty nervous I'm afraid which is what's putting me off going for a hybrid. It's a year since my accident and I'm having to face the fact that my knee is probably never going to be 100% ok again.

I've remembered I actually have a saddle - I'd ordered a giant one which was the type I'd liked in the shop but it arrived after my accident so it was never fitted. Have helmet etc and about 150 towards accessories too so that's fine.

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CMOTDibbler · 06/06/2016 16:18

I have a Specialized Vita as my hybrid bike and really like it.

Mine has its original saddle on it, but I replaced my road bikes saddle with a Selle Italia Diva gel which is comfy. The biggest difference in comfort is the shorts you wear - my faves are DHB halter bib shorts, but if you don't want to wear lycra, I hear very good things about the Urbanist pants.

StatisticallyChallenged · 06/06/2016 16:17

I don't think we're allowed cyclocross- road hybrid or mtb only but I'll double check the terms.

Off road tracks - there's a lot of former railways and a canal towpath around here. They're not all tarmaced so can be a bit bumpy - more compacted dirt type tracks. The towpath especially can be a bit muddy too.

Unfortunately we don't have many local bike shops and those we do seem to have minimal overlap with the evans range. But in store evans wasn't great, I'll pop back in tonight and see if I can find some to try in different brands but they are a city centre store who seem to focus on really bloody expensive bikes- 2k carbon type stuff.

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InsufficientlyCaffeinated · 06/06/2016 16:15

Good on you for deciding to get back on the saddle! A few years ago I bought a new road bike then crashed badly three days later by being too over-confident! Took ages to pluck up the nerve to get back on it again but love cycling again now.

If you're mostly riding trails then a mtb or hybrid is a good idea. Unless you're doing proper mountain biking you don't need full suspension. My mtb is a Cannondale and I really like it but I did put thinner tyres on as I mostly do trails and it's just easier pedalling with a thinner tyre. If you're going to use it on roads for popping in to town as well as trails I'd go for a hybrid over an mtb.

I look for hydraulic disc brakes on bikes now as they have good braking power.

Evans seem to have quite a few Specialized hybrid bikes. This one seems good www.evanscycles.com/specialized-vita-elite-disc-2016-women-s-hybrid-bike-EV244813

I also like Trek hybrids. Quite like this one but it only comes in black www.evanscycles.com/trek-neko-sl-2016-women-s-hybrid-bike-EV242085