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Protein Powder?

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Katymac · 23/12/2015 07:53

DD has been advised to have some protein shakes (3x 20g a day - am, pm & after her busiest/hardest class)

So we bought some 'Optimum Nutrition Lean Whey'

& the blasted child doesn't like it - it's not chocolatey enough in water & too chocolatey for adding to her smoothies (despite the spinach!! yuk!!)

So can she add it to milk & add more milkshake powder to make it chocolateyer & what should I buy next time that is a better flavour?

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Katymac · 30/12/2015 14:12

Maybe there's a dietician on MN who can help - I'll put a thread in health (I guess) & see

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Katymac · 30/12/2015 14:09

The dinner, (& lunch & breakfast) are less of a problem than the betweens

She can't eat enough to maintain her weight on just 3 meals & there won't be time between classes to eat with the retainer, a pint of milkshake may have enough protein to fulfill his requirements but I can't see her managing to have 2 or 3 pints a day

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Katymac · 28/12/2015 00:36

& she will be having it in the 15 minutes between one class & the next - straight after high impact exhausting exercise

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Katymac · 28/12/2015 00:35

Maryz I've done the best I can for the next 3 months - when the retainer is off she will go back to eating between classes I promise (she prefers food)

But the need to up her protein has come at a bad time for eating & we have spent more than 2 years of her teeth to ignore it now

She needs to get through to Easter then we can reassess and make new & hopefully better decisions

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Katymac · 27/12/2015 19:54

Yes KeyserSophie, she is 18 & training professionally

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Katymac · 27/12/2015 19:51

Well condensed milk & a banana solved the taste issue - but I'm not sure if we will buy any more when this bag runs out as after March she will only wear her retainer at night & she can return to eating all day long the way she has done before. I think it's going to be a tricky term but will ease off later in the year.

She was asked to use it by the (NHS) physio as she has had several injuries this term and he wants her muscles to get all the help they can alongside massage & specific exercises. If she has to have 5 or 6 20g portions of protein each day I doubt she can manage it on food alone right now.

But it's only one term and things will change then back to normal

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PirateSmile · 27/12/2015 19:43

I think you make a good point Maryz If memory serves me you're in Ireland and the rugby authorities there seem more willing than most to warn against protein supplements. It's becoming a big problem for young people. I've even read that it's suspected there are steroids in some supplements. A decent amount of protein in the diet should be more than sufficient for most children.

KeyserSophie · 27/12/2015 19:37

Maryz I think the OP's DD is an adult (at least 16) and basically a professional dancer. I do agree with you to an extent but I think it's often a convenience thing- for professional athletes who need high protein intake, it's not always very convenient to keep eating protein based meals/snacks all day. However, yes, agree that protein shakes are overused. Chocolate milk may well be a good solution in this scenario as the carbs/fat would be a good thing.

Kathy Sorry- I don't live in the UK- I didn't realise it's not widely available there so apologies.

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Katymac · 27/12/2015 11:25

Thanks everyone lots for us to try here

Thanks also MrsMorton; I reaally hadn't thought about mouthwash-the sheet said we had to clean her teeth,but as someone pointed out it's too soon after eating to do that. Any other useful retainer advise? In 3months it drops to 14 hrs a day & tbh that will be as hard as this is,she sometimes gets home at 8:30 then leaves at 7:30 the next day

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Applepie45 · 27/12/2015 09:53

Just another suggestion for a couple of reasonably nice tasting protein supplements.

Optimum Nutrition makes for a nice shake, especially if added to almond milk. They come in loads of different flavours and you can buy samples of them on EBay to try before you buy a whole tub. I found it to be better quality than MyProtein, which whilst it did taste quite nice, made me quite bloated.

The other thing you might find worth looking into is a product called Muscle Mousse. It's essentially a high protein angel delight and it has a really good protein content. Some of the flavours are a bit synthetic, but the strawberry one is pretty good. I also quite like the peanut choc one (with an added scoop of peanut butter) but I suspect that one isn't for everyone.

Mrsmorton · 27/12/2015 09:44

Using a high fluoride mouthwash will be quicker and easier than chewing gum. It is important to do something though if she's snacking or drinking or whatever. Sports people who do this generally have awful teeth unless they do something like gum etc.
Something OTC such as fluoriguard would be ideal. It's made by Colgate.

Kathysclown · 27/12/2015 09:40

KeyserSophie - where/how do you get hold of Progenix in the UK? I use the Recovery shakes, but don't live in the UK and can get hold of them where I currently live. Will probably be moving back to the UK later this year and good to know I can get them there - I didn't think they were available there....

KeyserSophie · 27/12/2015 09:27

Okay- so if weight loss is the issue then don't worry about sugar/ calorie content- you basically want to make them more calorific. I was confused by your saying "she mustn't gain any bulk or weight" and thought that was why you were adding it to water.

Many protein powders are sugar free (artificially sweetened) as they're generally marketed at athletes who want max protein in combination with minimum other macro-nutrients (fat/carbs). However, you can tailor calories depending on the "mixer"- water obviously being least calorific.

Can she drink a protein shake through a straw with the retainer in? If so, just mix them up with whole milk for more calories.

However, as I say, protein shakes always have a sort of back taste and that's something that's hard to avoid. Progenex is the nicest tasting of the ones I've tried but it is expensive, as I mentioned. I also find Muscle Milk quite palatable and that comes in ready made cartons.

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Katymac · 26/12/2015 22:10

She generally snacks after each 1.5hrs of class; she struggles to keep her weight constant

But if she has to take her retainer out, eat, chew gum, replace and change her kit & shoes - she won't get it done in 15mins (never mind maybe needing a loo break)

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Katymac · 26/12/2015 22:05

I wonder if I should take over with 'cooking' to make acceptable blends rather than let her mess about

They both sound very acceptable & the yogurt will be fab in a smoothie

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MyFriendsCallMeOh · 26/12/2015 22:04

Quick question (my dd wears a retainer)..... Why can't she snack easily with a retainer?

MyFriendsCallMeOh · 26/12/2015 22:02

Chocolate flavor protein powder plus coconut milk plus half a dozen frozen cherries is amazing. Also vanilla protein powder, coconut milk and blueberries or mango or banana if she is hungry . Fruit with big seeds (raspberries etc) make shakes gritty but you can get fruit purée.....

hollinhurst84 · 26/12/2015 21:53

The two I have used are my protein and the protein works. Both taste decent but I mix with unsweetened almond milk and have as a shake
The arla protein yoghurt are good, Skyr is quite high protein too

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Katymac · 26/12/2015 21:45

I think I'm trying to fix two problems at once

  1. the physio thinks she needs more protein
  2. she can't snack easily anymore because of the retainer & I'm worried she will lose weight

Maybe I should separate them

I was looking at old fashioned tins of nourishment but they seem high in sugar too

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BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 26/12/2015 21:43

There are high-protein yogurts (Arla do one) available, with 20g protein per pot, I find them less faffy than shakes but they taste pretty... grown up.
Or there are loads of protein bars available, but some of them are quite sugary.

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Katymac · 26/12/2015 21:11

Can anyone talk me through this properly as I am stumped - or point me to a basic website so I can learn properly

I could do damage going in half arsed

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Katymac · 25/12/2015 17:43

No she's more worried about weight loss tbh

She spends all day eating just to maintain her weight & the retainer has stuffed that up

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