Page 10 | spring marathoners

Mitchy1nge · 2015-01-06T20:06:17+00:00

suspect there are a few of us preparing for a spring marathon - any interest in chat about training schedules, black toe nails and so on?

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Mitchy1nge · 25/01/2015 11:01

aw pootle

I ended up having a long sleep under the cats instead feel amazing for it. Did ten and a bit on Thursday so is not as if I haven't had a longISH one. Think have done about 20 overall so a lot lighter than last week.

Really genuinely hadn't thought through the problem of how very very dark it would be on country roads at that hour, so while the idea of getting 2, 2.5 hours done by 8 or 9 am (Sundays are one of our busier days for various reasons) is brilliant and inspired, the reality was a bit daunting. Also forgot that even where there is some street lighting it's not on at that time. Excuses excuses! Am ordering several of those flashing armband things so maybe next week. There's no pressing need to be running much more than 10 for my long one anyway yet, it's just that it's a demon I need to vanquish.

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pootlebug · 25/01/2015 10:36

Have a good long run, all of you for whom Sunday = long run day.

On the sofa with my leg elevated and a bag of frozen peas on my foot as per physio instructions…

InnocenceAndExperience · 25/01/2015 10:10

Morning all!

Feeling ok today. The foot pain is gone and actually disappeared quickly. Hip pain hardly noticeable but something I'll need to watch.

Good luck on your long run, those going today.

isittheweekendyet · 25/01/2015 08:00

Hope you're feeling ok today Innocence

Hope you made it out from the cats Mitchy! I'm just scoffing a bowl of porridge in bed before heading out to get 9 in the bag this morning, but it's super frost again so it really will be a slow one today

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Mitchy1nge · 25/01/2015 06:21

well done innocence, hope you're not hurting today

am doing well at establishing Sunday morning Long Run insofar as woke at 5 and started getting ready - but it's still very dark out there, I don't have a head torch or any lights, will just have to wait under this pile of cats and spaniel until it starts to get a bit lighter as the route is mostly roads without footpaths or street lights

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leemur · 24/01/2015 20:53

Pootle Sorry to hear you might not manage your race.
Innocence hope the aches don't come to anything.

My marathon isn't until the end of May so I've not properly started training for it. At the moment I don't do a huge mileage, probably 21 miles Including a long run of 11 miles. I have just been running 3 times a week but I do try to make them quality runs e.g. tempo or intervals. My youngest dc starts nursery next week so that should give me at least one more run in a week.

InnocenceAndExperience · 24/01/2015 17:39

Painful run today. 14 miles+. Not a bad tine (for me), but pain in the foot and hip after about 7 miles, which is ok now.

Remind me why I'm doing this?

pootlebug · 23/01/2015 21:36

Thank you for the sympathy, everyone. Just feeling sorry for myself today (and maybe much of the week, given pretty much all exercise is out). I seem to have sorted the plantar fasciitis by wearing fit flops or running shoes every moment of every day. The latest thing is the tendons in the top of my other foot, and neither me nor the physio has really sussed what caused it yet.

By the time I've had another week off, I'll only have run for 2 weeks in the previous 2 months, with 10 weeks to go until the marathon. I could give it a go, but a) I suspect I'll hate doing a sub-standard (to me) marathon, and b) with such a short timescale I suspect I'd end up injuring myself further trying to get up to distance. Better to get back to speed, at half distance (for HM and triathlon purposes) and if all stays well contemplate an end-of-the-summer marathon instead.

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Mitchy1nge · 23/01/2015 18:46

oh pootle poor you, PF is nasty (had it after/as part of? soleus strain) massive sympathies - did heal completely, along with everything else, tried to keep endurance base up on the rowing machine by doing equivalent mileage in place of runs. Also dragged old running shoes out of retirement and wore them everywhere as far as possible especially if had to walk any distance. Physio used to tape up my achilles too and that helped.

I still can't get into the progress summary on Garmin to see miles for the month so far but has just occurred to me that my next half is coming up in TWO WEEKS (8th feb, is that two weeks? yikes anyway)

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isittheweekendyet · 23/01/2015 17:57

Oh no Pootle sorry to hear that. Hope you can rest and recover enough for your halfs.

Mitchy, my weekly mileage this week is 19 miles - I have done 45 so far this month. My long run this weekend is 9 miles but the mileage really ramps up in Feb - weeks of 25 miles average and long runs of 12,15,15 & 16. And then March is more again!

Pleaseputyourshoeson · 23/01/2015 17:06

Oh Pootle, believe me I feel your disappointment. I am the injury queen and I did my knee /itband in when I got to 14 miles before Xmas and it only now not making limp after every run. Injury is so frustrating. Like you I have two other half marathons scheduled in, one in March, one in May and then triathlon in June. I suspect I will have to think about swimming and cycling more come the spring but right now I'm just trying to be slow and careful to get up to marathon distance in one piece but it feels like such an easy fine line between pushing distance and then injury. I'm frightened to run at pace or too hard during short runs in case the long ones make me more likely to pull /tear something. Plantar fasciitis is horrid. Are you golf balling your foot and pulling towels with scrunched toes etc?
Me and the foam roller are going to have to make friends tonight.

pootlebug · 23/01/2015 16:34

Dammit, I think I'm out.

Plantar Fasciitis through December and 4 weeks off. I'd been back to it all for 2 weeks and did something weird to the other foot last Tues and haven't been able to run since. Saw physio today who confirmed that the tendons are swollen and I should have at least another week of complete rest.

I just don't think there's enough time left to get up to speed/distance without risking further injury for a marathon on 12th April. Am thinking I should still aim for the half I have at the end of March, and then for the triathlons I have in May/June. Crap crap crap.

Pleaseputyourshoeson · 23/01/2015 15:58

Go run blah blah! You'll feel better about yourself. I get in a bad mood with myself if I quiche out of a planned run. It's not worth the hard time I give myself. I drank a pint of choc milk Bafana on finishing my run . And are a peanut butter sandwich about two hours later. I thought I should probs have had an ice bath as I am def muscle tired but I was so so cold with sweat after being out for so long despite all that techno sportswear that I ended up having quite the opposite - a hot long soak and then iced my knee for insurance and took some ibuprofen.
mitchy my marathon is on Good Friday. I run three 5-7 mile runs on top of the long run and do two boot camps that involve a fair amount of shuttle or interval running so if they have been running orientated I drop a short run and swim. I am really wondering how well I can build up my stamina in the coming weeks as I thought when I finished today that another 10 miles running would not be pretty!!!

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Mitchy1nge · 23/01/2015 15:30

just out of anxiety curiosity - what is everyone's weekly mileage and length of long run at the moment and how many weeks until your marathon?

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Mitchy1nge · 23/01/2015 15:27

yes is apparently v important, replenish carbs and have some protein - chocolate milk is supposed to be really good for this if you can't face food

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BafanaThesober · 23/01/2015 15:10

Well done you!
force yourself to eat. We had a sports nutritionist speak at the club recently, and eating within the first 30 mins post run is hugely beneficial! It's one thing I really struggle with, because I generally can't face food after running, but apparently is really good for your muscles!

LadyBlaBlah · 23/01/2015 15:09

Oh well done, Pleaseput
I should be doing an hour now.

Grrrrrrrrrr I've got my feet glued to the heater and no motivation.

Pleaseputyourshoeson · 23/01/2015 14:47

Afternoon. Right, 16 miles done in three hours - pretty damn hilly too so i's say from Mile 11/12 I was wishing it over as by 13 back ache began to kick in in my lower back and gluteus and hamstrings felt achy fatigues. I had porridge at 6.45am, got running at 9am. Took a gel at mile 6, and drank a Gatorade at mile 9, and then at 13 necked a second gel then finished my run outside the chocolate milk shop. I am quite tired feeling, the hills and the cold made it feel tough but I dont, touch wood feel injured. I have yet to eat anything though so might go and force myself to eat toast and peanut butter or some chicken. It's nice to have Friday's off for the long run, so tomorrow I'll do a relaxed swim with my son and have Sunday off.
Happy running everyone!

BafanaThesober · 23/01/2015 10:36

Anything over 10 miles I take water with high 5 mixed in. Less than that I just eat 1.5 hours before the run, which is a mare when it's early morning, and try to eat protein within half an hour of getting back in.

Good run last night, ran down to the Club hill session, 2.5 miles of hills, followed by a much gentler run home. 6 miles in the bag. And even more importantly - my head seems to be in a much better place about the whole thing at the moment!

10 miler planned for Sunday, and I will probably head to Parkrun in the morning tomorrow. Please let the weather not be horrendous!

isittheweekendyet · 23/01/2015 09:13

I fuel by eating some raisins just before I run. On runs up to around 7/8 miles I just take water with me, although with the cold weather I haven't been taking anything to drink while I'm out. More miles than that I take a bottle of sports drink with me and something to snack on, maybe some sweets or flapjack while I run. I use gels every 45 mins, again on longer runs, say more than 9 miles, so will take one this weekend for the first time as I'm due to do 9 on Sunday

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Mitchy1nge · 22/01/2015 21:00

I don't know about those things, it's probably individual and I haven't done super long runs for ages but anything sort of 15 miles and over I take water or something like lucozade sport diluted 50:50 with water

I use high5 zero tabs for electrolyte replacement now and then mainly for the potassium because I'm on lithium, which pretty much competes with potassium, and although this is checked frequently the risk of low potassium sort of worries me but I do this in general, not on the actual run

anyway it is a good idea to have some kind of drink or even food with you on a long run in case you injure yourself and have to wait somewhere or limp home - you are likely to be much further from home than on a normal weekday run, it's hard to believe now but apparently by the time our marathons draw near it could be much warmer out there! so it's not a bad habit to get into

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Pleaseputyourshoeson · 22/01/2015 20:18

Yes Leemur, I'd consider myself an Olympian or something with that time!!!
My next question is about fueling - I take a couple of gels with me and now going longer am wondering how often to neck one - every 10k ish? and also re drinks I normally run with a fiver in my pocket which I use to buy water en route planning my runs around being near a shop/cafe at around the 10 k ish point and to buy a choc milk at the end - but now I'm building up those miles is water enough? Do you NEED to drink an electrolyte drink? Into ice after half distance I can be very salty and occasionally crampy, which makes me think I'm losing too much salt in sweat or something?

leemur · 22/01/2015 07:04

Thanks for the positivity mitchy!
I'm another one who really only runs although I do cycle to and from work one day which is 10 miles each way.

I didn't even make it out last night as my train was late so I ran out of time. I'll have to go tonight instead.

InnocenceAndExperience · 21/01/2015 22:24

Time is the issue for me, too. Also a single parent working FT so I have to work out a timetable and MAKE time for running, especially now the longer runs are getting longer!

BafanaThesober · 21/01/2015 22:17

I swim and I cycle, hoping to do more triathlons later this year, but running is my first love, and at the moment, pretty much all I am doing, I am a single parent and work full time, so fitting everything in can be a challenge.

Also love yoga when I can get along to the classes.

Rest day today. 6 miles tomorrow after work.