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Couch to 5k...it's not about speed (thread no 2)

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spookyskeleton · 24/06/2014 18:47

Thought I would start a new thread for us to continue our chat Smile

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addictedtosugar · 14/07/2014 08:43

snap, great minds, spooky!

addictedtosugar · 14/07/2014 08:42

Moosey
I get mins / km too. I converted it for the treadmill runners!
If you divide 60 by the mins / km, you will get km/h (ie 6 mins / km -> 60/6 = 10 km/h)

Rest days are good to let your muscles recover. What about doing a different form of excerise on the other days?

Still our hills version is: walk then jog to bottom of hill. Run up hill, aiming to be sprinting at the top. Turn round. I walk back down, the superfit are jogging back down, in order to recover. Aim to do this for 15 mins to start with, and build up to about 20 mins. Then walk / jog home as a cool down.

spookyskeleton · 14/07/2014 08:34

moosey I calculate my speed by dividing 60 minutes by my average time to run 1 kilometre (so for me I average 7.5 minutes to do 1k) so 60/7.5 = 8 so my speed is 8kph on average Smile

In terms of rest days, they are very important as this is when the muscles repair themselves and get stronger and if you don't rest, they can't do this. Plus you need rest so you don't fatigue yourself. I am not an expert but I am sure I read somewhere that marathon training involves not running for a few days before to ensure you and your muscles are not fatigued on the day.

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MooseyMouse · 14/07/2014 07:55

Hi everyone

Couple of questions:

  1. You're all saying your speed as X kph but all my phone tells me is how many minutes per kilometre. What apps are you all using?

  2. Why are you supposed to have a rest day? I quite like running each day but is that bad?

stilllearnin · 13/07/2014 22:38

Oh I live on a hill- could this be for me??! I am reading nourishing wisdom by Marc david. It's no quick fix and it's taking me ages to get through but making me think about approach to eating, body image and all sorts. But yes I'm lugging round extra too- at least I have bigger muscles with which to do it!

spookyskeleton · 13/07/2014 21:14

watto i can give you details of a hill training plan that I am using if you want? One 'cycle' takes 16 minutes so you can do 2 of them or tag it on to a short run before. Like addicted, I hate hills but this is doable and wasn't actually that bad. I jogged for 15 minutes to the hill, did the hill routine then walked back and felt like I had had a good workout. Once I get this 10k out of the way next week, I am going to aim to do it once a week and slowly build it up.

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addictedtosugar · 13/07/2014 20:58

The only thing that is working for me is when I get hungry, I go for a glass of water first (tho I was seriously under hydrated - I was getting about 1L a day). If I'm still looking for something after that, I try to go for fruit (easier in the summer with all the lovely berries), but still do sometimes go back for junk.

Running does seem to have moderated my appetite a bit tho - I have gone from slowly gaining to slowly loosing (like 1 stone over the year since I started C25K).

I agree with spooky - mix it up a bit, some shorter, faster runs, some longer slower ones, and something different. I've also been doing hills with some others, but I HATE HATE HATE them, but they do work!

DottyDot · 13/07/2014 20:41

No diets!! They don't work... Running more + eating less crap must be the answer?! I'm really hoping exercise, water and eating less works more wonders than anything I've tried previously - which is everything you can think of! Grin

spookyskeleton · 13/07/2014 20:32

I do the 5:2 diet but it isn't working Grin

I am ok(ish) on the fast days but I know I overcompensate on my non-fast days which defeats the object. However, I stick with it as fasting does seem to regulate my appetite (I had got to the point where I was so scared of feeling hungry that I had to snack constantly whereas I now realise that feeling hungry is ok and nothing to be scared of which is a huge step for me) . I enjoy the fast days as it feels 'cleansing' plus I can eat pretty much what I want on non-fast days and not put weight on which is quite liberating.

I know what I need to do but just can't seem to focus enough Blush

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Whatsthatnoise · 13/07/2014 20:24

lidl I tried mfp but it just didn't work for me. It said I needed 1900 calories per day, I was eating 1400 but then because I had 500 free calories I would scoff junk at night. I find the only woe that I actually lose weight on is low carb but I find it really hard to maintain.

lovelidl · 13/07/2014 20:14

Have those of you looking to loose weight tried my fitness pal?

I started using the app on the 1st of June, same time as I started running. Have stuck to 1200 (ish) calories a day and have gone from 12st 4lb to 11st 2lb which I am pretty please with. I haven't seen a '10' on the scales in my adult life and I am nearly there!

Really recommend it as you don't have to deny yourself anything so it doesn't feel like a diet as such.

spookyskeleton · 13/07/2014 20:07

watto I felt exactly the same as you when I finished the programme - still slow, still struggled a lot towards the end of 5k runs and made no improvement on my times and tbh, I still feel like that occasionally now. What I find has helped re-motivate myself is signing up for a 10k run to give me something to aim for, doing different kinds of runs rather than 5k runs every single times (hill training, different routes etc) and not running 3 times a week so doing different exercise instead once a week.

I also think that it would be easier if I wasn't so heavy Sad carrying 14.5 stone around takes a lot of effort. I would run like Mo Farah if I was 3 stone lighter Wink

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DottyDot · 13/07/2014 19:39

Aww Watto you've done brilliantly - you've made it through and sod the speed - you can do it! March is ages away so maybe you need a plan for each month to run slightly further through the year? Or the 10k app to take you to the next stage? I feel the same about carrying a load of extra weight - I'm sure it would be much easier without all the bulk I'm carrying - but all we can do is keep trying and hope some of it starts to shift! I'm drinking more water and eating less crap, although not following any particular diet.

Keep going - keep going for runs, even if they're not very fast or very far - you can definitely do it if you've got this far Smile

Watto1 · 13/07/2014 19:03

Hello, apologies for being absent recently. I seem to have lost my running mojo Sad . I got to the end of c25k about 4 weeks ago. I've been going out for 30 min runs 2 or 3 times a week since then but I can't see any improvement. I still struggle to get to the end without stopping and I'm still very slow. I'm supposed to be doing a half marathon in March and I'm really worried that I'm going to be nowhere near able to do it Sad

I'm also at least 2 stone overweight and just can't stick to a diet. I'm sure running would be much easier without the excess weight. Can anyone lend me some willpower please (and a kick up the backside)? Thanks!

lovelidl · 13/07/2014 15:22

Yay! Well done Moosey & Chameleon!

ChameleonCircuit · 13/07/2014 14:39

Cricket schmicket. Go running, Dotty! Grin

DottyDot · 13/07/2014 14:19

Hurrah Chameleon!!

DottyDot · 13/07/2014 14:16

moosey that's brilliant!! You made it Grin

I'm aiming to do W7R1 this afternoon - but if I don't make it out (the cricket is distracting me!) I'll definitely be doing it tomorrow!

ChameleonCircuit · 13/07/2014 14:13

Did W4R1 this morning. With the first run of every week up to now, I haven't managed to do all of the running I should, I've had to drop to a walk. Today, though, I ran every bit I should! Shock. I was very apprehensive after someone said up thread that this is the first part where you are running more than you're walking, but I did it!!!!!!

ChameleonCircuit · 13/07/2014 14:11

Yay, well done, Moosey!

MooseyMouse · 13/07/2014 13:34

Thanks spooky

spookyskeleton · 13/07/2014 13:23

Go moosey go Grin fab achievement and 40 minutes is not a bad time at all. You are a runner now Smile Smile

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MooseyMouse · 13/07/2014 12:56

Bloody hell... I just ran 5km!!!!!!

I was due to do the w9r1 (30 min) run but I'd mapped out a 5km route to see how far I could get. Turns out I finished it!

It took 40 mins exactly giving a speed of 8 mins per km but I don't care about speed yet. I'm just thrilled and stunned and delighted and shocked this programme worked and turned me from a true Couch Potato into a 5km runner! Yay!

Whatsthatnoise · 13/07/2014 11:54

W4R3 done! totally mis timed it and ended up going uphill on the last 5min run, I gave up at 3mins Sad plan is one more W4 run then onto W5 by this weekend Wink

DuchessFanny · 13/07/2014 08:57

Thanks for mentioning that app lidl I was wondering what I was going to do after finishing c25k !