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5k to 10k in 6 weeks?

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Naebother · 14/10/2013 20:24

I'm a recent c25k graduate and am running 5k 3 x a week. I have done 2 park runs so far at 38 min and 36 min.

My friend ( who runs marathons) wants us to enter a 10k in 6 weeks time. I've had a look online at training schedules by they all are 4-5 x a week and I can only do 3 runs a week.

Any advice on how I can prepare?

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Mitchy1nge · 30/10/2013 11:56

I think the most important thing is to keep getting out there, you can have your 'perfect world plan' where you do your (for example) easy run, tempo or speed work one and your long one and then your real world one which could be 'I must go out at least three times, the long one is the most important one but it all counts as long as I keep running and build the kms in my legs'.

People training for their first race of any distance rarely run that actual distance during training, you are going to get round that course and be fine!

Naebother · 30/10/2013 09:03

You have described it perfectly, that running on empty feeling sparkly. I feel better knowing its not just me!

I also love that aspect of running outside, escaping the kids, seeing the trees, the stars, getting to know my neighbourhood in all its small detail Smile

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SparklyFucker · 30/10/2013 08:41

I didn't specifically plan my runs around my cycle but I noticed very real differences in how I felt. Often as if there was just nothing left, no real energy or strength. I'm also a bit prone to minor ankle & knee strains during that week or so. Those sorts of days I would just run/jog for the joy of being outside, for being away from the kids for half an hour or so, to see the sun, just jogged it out really and forget about times/distances etc. I looked around me more and appreciated where I live much more. If I only managed 4k, or was 5mins slower, then so what, I'd had a pleasant meander out and was keeping my muscles ticking over. I'm not really a racer or competitive runner and am just trying to improve my general fitness, and being able to get to a beautiful countryside/farmland run within five minutes of the house also does wonders for my mental health and moods too.

Naebother · 30/10/2013 08:30

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Naebother · 30/10/2013 08:30

5k only 8 on Saturday will be parkrun. Plan is I'm going to keep on after I finish the 5k!

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Naebother · 30/10/2013 08:27

sparkly that gives me hope.

My 5 k times are not far from yours. I think you and mitchy might be right about focusing on distance.

I'm going to aim for 6k on Thursday. 8k on Saturday. That would give me a Weekly total of 18k.

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Naebother · 30/10/2013 08:24

God I really struggled yesterday. I think the 7k i ran on saturday sapped me. Plus its that time of the month. Do any of you plan your training around your menstral cycle?

So I only did 4k and it took me 35 min. Plus ligament behind my knee hurts. Feels like I'm going backwards.

Good idea voice I'm doing yoga on my ' rest' days. I could incorporate some longer plank into my salutations.

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VoiceofRaisin · 29/10/2013 17:11

Swap one of your weekly runs for an interval session. On your non run days do some core training (pressups, planks, sit ups). Both those techniques will seriously improve your running and don't take up any more of your time (if you do the core exercises in front of the tv).

SparklyFucker · 29/10/2013 17:09

I was averaging 33-34 mins I suppose, my fastest ever was after I had done a 10k for a while and was 30mins 32 secs. Never dipped below 32 either, apart from that one time. It was odd really, I hadn't gone out with anything other than a normal run in mind. But it all just went so perfectly, and I knew after the first kilometer and a half that it was going to be fast. It felt utterly amazing and will go down as one of my best ever feeling runs regardless of time!

I think once you can sustain your 5k pace for about 45-50 mins solid, you know you're going to be able to cover 10k as a distance, assuming you're looking at about 35mins for 5k. I felt that walking intervals after that point were pointless for me personally, and that extending my time by ten mins or whatever per week was probably going to better. So I sort of agree with Mitchy, look at targetting the total time/distance first and look at speed work later. 10k is much more about endurance to start with. But it's very personal, you know how best to push yourself.

Naebother · 29/10/2013 16:35

Time. I mean.

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Naebother · 29/10/2013 16:35

Thanks sparkly. That's inspiring. What a great time too. What were you running 5 k in?

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SparklyFucker · 29/10/2013 16:21

Should also say I was also only running three times a week too.

SparklyFucker · 29/10/2013 16:21

I managed 5k to 10k in just over three weeks, having only finished c25k a week before deciding to make the jump. I started by targetting the likely overall time, so did one week of 5x10minute stints with 2mins walking in between. Next week I did 3x20mins with two mins walking, week after that I did 40mins run, 2 mins walking, 20 mins run, and then the first run of the fourth week I just went for the distance, and managed 10k in 1hr 11mins with no stopping. Did it about three more times after that over the next two months, fastest time was 1hr 6mins. Haven't run more than 6k in four months though, and haven't run consistently in over a month - have been switching up with gym owrkouts & classes, but I'd like to do 10k again before christmas!

Naebother · 27/10/2013 07:28

Update. Yesterday I ran 7k. Very slowly. It took me an hour.

Next week 8 k. Target.

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Mitchy1nge · 24/10/2013 10:49

hmm am also no expert but I think distance first, speed work later - partly based on own experience, the further and further I run the (slightly bit) faster I become overall whereas am not sure that shorter sprintier runs actually do as much for my endurance as The Long Run once a week

personally would wait until happily running for an hour at a time (sort of about 10k ish?) or make that the chief priority and leave the speed work until then unless you are overflowing with energy and really want to?

RubyLovesShopping · 24/10/2013 10:29

Am no expert but I think the 5x1 min fast runs will help more plus over time you can lengthen them to 1.5 min then 2 mins etc

Naebother · 24/10/2013 08:33

Thanks cantstop I think one long run, a shorter one with short fast runs within and a 5 k run a week is my plan now. Thanks to the advice on this thread.

Did 10 min jog then 5 x alternate fast run/ jogs today then a 10 min steady run. The fast runs are such hard work. Im only did them for a minute but It takes a minute of jogging between to recover.

Any tips on how you can increase duration of fast runs?

Should I do 2 x 3 min or is it better to do more but shorter. Ie 5 x 1 min?

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RubyLovesShopping · 21/10/2013 22:53

Nae there's one big hill at the start of my 5k route which is awful but I know once it's out if the way it's just flat or downhill the rest of the way round.
I'm back to doing just 5k again now.

CantStopEatingCheese · 21/10/2013 22:42

Also have a look at the Runkeeper training programs for 10k. It's free to join and you can see details of the training programs on the basic (free) membership. They are free as well. They are all based around doing 4 runs a week but you can get some ideas on how to do the intervals. I'm trying to work my way through the 10k in sub 65 mins at the moment. It's all very similar to what you're doing at the moment (1 long run gradually increasing the distance, 3 shortish runs with speedwork built-in). Hope that helps!

Naebother · 21/10/2013 10:29

I bet 5k dies feel easy if you're running 10 twice a week! I have a big hill on my route and running on the flat feels easy after that! (Once i get my breath back at the top)

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Naebother · 21/10/2013 10:26

Forgot to pack running shoes! Aaaargh

So I'm a run behind schedule and today feel like I am getting a cold Sad

Ran 6k this morning very slowly.

I like the idea if running the 5 k route twice. Hadn't thought of that.

Not sure I will run 10k before the race though. Aiming to run 7 k this Saturday.

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AngryFeet · 20/10/2013 22:24

Only 2-3 times a week although I did a couple of aerobics classes too.

RubyLovesShopping · 18/10/2013 09:44

I regularly run 5k but recently trained for a 10k I can only run 3 times a week so my runs during the week I did the usual 5k run but at weekends did that route twice, then after a few weeks did 2x10k runs a week and one 5k. I found 5k easy but the last 2k of a 10k is a killer if you are not used to it!

Naebother · 17/10/2013 17:43

Angryfeet that's good to hear!

How often were you running 5k?

I've had a look at 5-10k app its 9 weeks, guess I could start on week 4.

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AngryFeet · 17/10/2013 11:29

Yeah you can do that. I had never run more than 5k but entered into a 10k without even training and managed to run the whole thing without too much bother :)